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smutnut 04-13-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17029840)
I never once said that in this entire thread. I don't know who was behind it, but I am convinced the official version is bullshit. Meanwhile the media and the rest of the population finds it acceptable to discuss silly tea party protesters and idiots who want to questions trivial shit like Obama's place of birth and that he is leading the US towards socialism.

Okay, but besides all this, you don't really think the government or THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION at the time sat down and worked something out so the buildings could be bombed, right?

Read the FOURTH K? Great book!

mayabong 04-13-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17029861)
Okay, but besides all this, you don't really think the government or THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION at the time sat down and worked something out so the buildings could be bombed, right?

Read the FOURTH K? Great book!

A question for you would be who was in charge for the security in the WTC before 9/11? I'll just ask the questions and let you research.

dyna mo 04-13-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17029840)
I never once said that in this entire thread. I don't know who was behind it, but I am convinced the official version is bullshit. Meanwhile the media and the rest of the population finds it acceptable to discuss silly tea party protesters and idiots who want to questions trivial shit like Obama's place of birth and that he is leading the US towards socialism.

this makes no sense as a reply to my comment. the fact is there is an official conspiracy version of 9/11, i summarized it briefly, the details are inconsequential in regards to the overall version.

the other parts of your comment do not go towards the topic in the slightest.

smutnut 04-13-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17029869)
A question for you would be who was in charge for the security in the WTC before 9/11? I'll just ask the questions and let you research.

Of course you'll let me research cause your fucking lazy and you're spitting all all this ludicrous conspiracy bullshit.

Do you believe in the JFK Conspiracy, Lincoln Conspiracy, the Illuminati, Roswild, etc.

PenisFace 04-13-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17029528)
P.S. dude, I don't believe in any official government report anymore than I believe in them being able to pull off a conspiracy though. We can't even have faith in the press giving us the truth anymore ever since that insider tobacco thing with 60 minutes, but still these conspiracy freaks are even scarier.

I'm not calling you a conspiracy freak though.

To be fair, you're quite paranoid. You've proven this in prior posts :thumbsup

smutnut 04-13-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace (Post 17029887)
To be fair, you're quite paranoid. You've proven this in prior posts :thumbsup

AND THINK ABOUT THIS, right?

CosmicTang 04-13-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17029873)
this makes no sense as a reply to my comment. the fact is there is an official conspiracy version of 9/11, i summarized it briefly, the details are inconsequential in regards to the overall version.

the other parts of your comment do not go towards the topic in the slightest.

The fact is that there's an "official" conspiracy version? Isn't that an oxymoron? What office is putting their stamp on it? The US Dept. of Conspiracies?

Conspiracy theories are decidedly UNofficial. That's why they're called conspiracy theories instead of official reports.

BestXXXPorn 04-13-2010 02:58 PM

Too many unanswered questions to complete an investigation ... end of story.

Phoenix 04-13-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17029886)
Of course you'll let me research cause your fucking lazy and you're spitting all all this ludicrous conspiracy bullshit.

Do you believe in the JFK Conspiracy, Lincoln Conspiracy, the Illuminati, Roswild, etc.

i can tell you..but for you to believe it you should look yourself

it was one of the bush brothers...his company took control of it 6 months before

i don't know what it means, but its just another piece of pie that doesn't taste right

dyna mo 04-13-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 17029901)
The fact is that there's an "official" conspiracy? Isn't that an oxymoron? What office is putting their stamp on it? The US Dept. of Conspiracies?

Conspiracy theories are decidedly UNofficial. That's why they're called conspiracy theories instead of official reports.

oh come on, no need to go spelling nazi over semantics when the fact is that the conpiracy theory revolves around the u.s. gov attacking it's own soil under a false flag op to go to war in iraq to secure oil revenues.


you can try and divert to focus to me all you want, that's cool, but fyi, you look silly when you try and make this about my use of the word official.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

smutnut 04-13-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17029905)
i can tell you..but for you to believe it you should look yourself

it was one of the bush brothers...his company took control of it 6 months before

i don't know what it means, but its just another piece of pie that doesn't taste right

I think he only has one brother, but I might be wrong.

Actually I feel bad for W. now ever since I saw the Oliver Stone movie LOL. :1orglaugh

But, I'm still a democrat!

Phoenix 04-13-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17029922)
I think he only has one brother, but I might be wrong.

Actually I feel bad for W. now ever since I saw the Oliver Stone movie LOL. :1orglaugh

But, I'm still a democrat!

George W. Bush is one of four sons and two daughters.

smutnut 04-13-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17029917)
oh come on, no need to go spelling nazi over semantics when the fact is that the conpiracy theory revolves around the u.s. gov attacking it's own soil under a false flag op to go to war in iraq to secure oil revenues.
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Exactly! But this is the part I don't believe ever happens. It makes for good movies and tv series like Jericho, but there is never any real clandestine conspiracy. There is too much money at stake to let any real revolt get out of control, even in the abstract sense.

smutnut 04-13-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17029933)
George W. Bush is one of four sons and two daughters.

No shit? That's what i get for watching Oliver Stone again :1orglaugh

I should have at least checked wikipedia before posting, huh?

CosmicTang 04-13-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17029917)
oh come on, no need to go spelling nazi over semantics when the fact is that the conpiracy theory revolves around the u.s. gov attacking it's own soil under a false flag op to go to war in iraq to secure oil revenues.


you can try and divert to focus to me all you want, that's cool, but fyi, you look silly when you try and make this about my use of the word official.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

I see. I look silly because I actually use a word properly (It's not a typo dude, it changes the entire meaning of what you wrote). Got it. That is one of the ills of our society: lazy intellect.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that a government would hurt the people its charged to protect to pursue government's inevitable goal: the consolidation of more and more power over the people it's supposed to serve. It's as predictable as a moth to a flame.

Governments all over the world and throughout history have done this. Our country has even helped many of them. Why do you think our government wouldn't do something like that to our own? Because we're Americans? Is American DNA different from any other human DNA?

mayabong 04-13-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 17029951)
I see. I look silly because I actually use a word properly (It's not a typo dude, it changes the entire meaning of what you wrote). Got it. That is one of the ills of our society: lazy intellect.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that a government would hurt the people its charged to protect to pursue government's inevitable goal: the consolidation of more and more power over the people it's supposed to serve. It's as predictable as a moth to a flame.

Governments all over the world and throughout history have done this. Our country has even helped many of them. Why do you think our government wouldn't do something like that to our own? Because we're Americans? Is American DNA different from any other human DNA?

Well said, you should write books

CosmicTang 04-13-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17029957)
Well said, you should write books

I look silly when I point out an incorrect usage of language that completely changes the meaning of a statement and I look crazy when I point out a theory that is in stark contrast to the one neatly packaged and marketed by those who stand to benefit most from its acceptance.

It's not really THAT hard to draw a line between two points, is it?

theking 04-13-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17029544)
In the sense that the government says we were attacked by a foreign entity...yes absolutely I believe that...as we had been attacked by many similar...and sometimes the same foreign entities...for twenty years prior to 9/11...including the World Trade Center...prior to 9/11.

People are free to ask all of the questions they want...and they do. People are also free to make all of the outrageous declarative statements they want...and they do.

Was it our government attacking our own for twenty years or more...including the first attack on the World Trade Center and all of the different "terrorist" orgs just volunteered to take credit for the attacks?

dyna mo 04-13-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 17029951)
I see. I look silly because I actually use a word properly (It's not a typo dude, it changes the entire meaning of what you wrote). Got it. That is one of the ills of our society: lazy intellect.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that a government would hurt the people its charged to protect to pursue government's inevitable goal: the consolidation of more and more power over the people it's supposed to serve. It's as predictable as a moth to a flame.

Governments all over the world and throughout history have done this. Our country has even helped many of them. Why do you think our government wouldn't do something like that to our own? Because we're Americans? Is American DNA different from any other human DNA?



the fact that a poster named *cosmic tang* actually feels the need to analyze me, concluding i have a *lazy intellect* all based on the use of one word at a message board named gofuckyourself is of absolutely no consequence to me, but by all means, do go on

obviously, you waxed over my earlier post stating i do not believe the official government version but that comment by me is not conducive to you making this about me.

no need for the history lesson either.

CosmicTang 04-13-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17029971)
the fact that a poster named *cosmic tang* actually feels the need to analyze me, concluding i have a *lazy intellect* all based on the use of one word at a message board named gofuckyourself is of absolutely no consequence to me, but by all means, do go on

obviously, you waxed over my earlier post stating i do not believe the official government version but that comment by me is not conducive to you making this about me.

no need for the history lesson either.

I'm not analyzing you. I have no idea who you are to be honest. I certainly am not judging you. I am judging your post. That sort of thing is symptomatic of what we've become, an intellectually lazy society. Whether you are or not I have no idea. My apologies if you feel I was making it personal.

I don't care what the board is or where, there's no reason to be uncivil or stupid when it can be avoided. But hey, that's just me.

dyna mo 04-13-2010 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 17029987)
I'm not analyzing you. I have no idea who you are to be honest. I certainly am not judging you. I am judging your post. That sort of thing is symptomatic of what we've become, an intellectually lazy society. Whether you are or not I have no idea. My apologies if you feel I was making it personal.

I don't care what the board is or where, there's no reason to be uncivil or stupid when it can be avoided. But hey, that's just me.

you concluding i am intellectually lazy for referring to the 9/11 conspiracy theory as *official* in an inconsequential thread here is a judgement, certainly a wordsmith of your caliber would know that.

i've yet to be uncivil or stupid in this thread but, please, continue to make this about me.

trevesty 04-13-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17029665)
I don't believe any of the conspiracy theories specifically, but I certainly don't believe the official government details either.

This. Both "stories" are pretty far fetched.

mayabong 04-13-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 17030021)
This. Both "stories" are pretty far fetched.


?If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.?

-Joseph Goebbels famous Nazi

CosmicTang 04-13-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17030010)
you concluding i am intellectually lazy for referring to the 9/11 conspiracy theory as *official* in an inconsequential thread here is a judgement, certainly a wordsmith of your caliber would know that.

i've yet to be uncivil or stupid in this thread but, please, continue to make this about me.

No, you haven't as far as I can see. Didn't claim that you were. If you're more comfortable with me judging you I can oblige.

CosmicTang 04-13-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17030036)
?If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.?

-Joseph Goebbels famous Nazi

And a simple, easy, cost-effective way to repress dissent is to label the dissenters as conspiracy nuts.

dyna mo 04-13-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 17030041)
No, you haven't as far as I can see. Didn't claim that you were. If you're more comfortable with me judging you I can oblige.

i'm here to waste time and have nothing to prove. you are also free to enjoy yourself here as you please.


threads such as these crack me up and i enjoy killing time on them knowing full well they go no where and accomplish nothing.

CosmicTang 04-13-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17030056)

threads such as these crack me up and i enjoy killing time on them knowing full well they go no where and accomplish nothing.

On this we agree.

mayabong 04-13-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17030056)
i'm here to waste time and have nothing to prove. you are also free to enjoy yourself here as you please.


threads such as these crack me up and i enjoy killing time on them knowing full well they go no where and accomplish nothing.

If 1 person decides to research the offical 9/11 claims on their own cause of questions posed in this thread, then I think its worth it. No matter what their final decision on the attacks is.

scarlettcontent 04-13-2010 04:06 PM

you gotta see this 911 Clues, Fake Media Mind Control pt 1/9


smutnut 04-13-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17030086)
If 1 person decides to research the offical 9/11 claims on their own cause of questions posed in this thread, then I think its worth it. No matter what their final decision on the attacks is.

What if that person was just about to discover the cure for Cancer, but before they could get there, diverted all their resources to this?

mayabong 04-13-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17030118)
What if that person was just about to discover the cure for Cancer, but before they could get there, diverted all their resources to this?

This the only comeback you have? I really don't know the answer to that question.

More nutjobs.

Firefighters for 9/11 Truth



Richard Gage of Arch's and Engineers for 9/11 Truth



How you can label these people "crazy" nutjobs for asking questions is beyond me.

smutnut 04-13-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17030154)
This the only comeback you have? I really don't know the answer to that question.

More nutjobs.

Firefighters for 9/11 Truth



Richard Gage of Arch's and Engineers for 9/11 Truth



How you can label these people "crazy" nutjobs for asking questions is beyond me.

Okay so what if one single legitimate person could do one legitimate thing if not for this distraction then? I understand Cancer is very minute and and insignificant and this conspiracy is so fucking huge and important and probably true!

mayabong 04-13-2010 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17030173)
Okay so what if one single legitimate person could do one legitimate thing if not for this distraction then? I understand Cancer is very minute and and insignificant and this conspiracy is so fucking huge and important and probably true!

For one I don't think this is a distraction from anything. This is THE reason that america is killing innocent people around the world. As long as people think that a bunch of arabs directed from a guy in a cave they can continue to do what they do. As far as cancer, there are cures, I personally know someone who cured himself with bloodroot. There is way too much money in people getting treated for cancer than there ever will be in a cure. This is why you'll never see a cure as long as our "health" system stays like it is.

smutnut 04-13-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17030206)
For one I don't think this is a distraction from anything. This is THE reason that america is killing innocent people around the world. As long as people think that a bunch of arabs directed from a guy in a cave they can continue to do what they do. As far as cancer, there are cures, I personally know someone who cured himself with bloodroot. There is way too much money in people getting treated for cancer than there ever will be in a cure. This is why you'll never see a cure as long as our "health" system stays like it is.

Okay, I understand now. There's a cure for Cancer and 9/11 was a conspiracy by the government for reasons yet to be determined. We're cool. It would really be tough for me to discuss this any further without Bigfoot backing me up.

bronco67 04-13-2010 04:43 PM

Anyone who thinks the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, know nothing about controlled demolition.

Minte 04-13-2010 04:45 PM

You really have to feel for the simpleton democrats.. 9 years and they couldn't provide one single shred of evidence to implicate the previous administration.

dyna mo 04-13-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17030086)
If 1 person decides to research the offical 9/11 claims on their own cause of questions posed in this thread, then I think its worth it. No matter what their final decision on the attacks is.

sure, that's cool. ftr, the only conspiracy theory i take real issue with is the one claiming lunar landings were faked.

theking 04-13-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17030227)
Anyone who thinks the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, know nothing about controlled demolition.

Short statement and pretty much says it all.

mayabong 04-13-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17030219)
Okay, I understand now. There's a cure for Cancer and 9/11 was a conspiracy by the government for reasons yet to be determined. We're cool. It would really be tough for me to discuss this any further without Bigfoot backing me up.

Try debating some of the topics that Eric Lawyer and Richard Gage bring up instead of attacking me. This is common especially on the main news stations especially when its hard to debate the topics they bring up.
Here is the guy from "NIST" denying molten metal under the towers. Are these the people you put your faith in for your facts?



As far as cancer, I'm not gonna debate that right now.

Overload 04-13-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17029475)
If the government was able to pull off the amazing feat of putting explosives into a building with thousands of people in it in the middle of manhattan, and with all of the people involved managing to never even tell one spouse; then why didn't they send a small seal team into Iraq in the beginning of the invasion in order plant a cache of WMDs to be "found" in the middle of the desert? It would have been MUCH MUCH easier to pull off and to keep secret, and would have then totally justified the whole war.

err, bomb sniffer dogs had been put outta duty for weeks and there was some kinda "construction" work going on in both buildings while security wasnt that tight ... um, and dont forget the millions of bucks silverstein made with his anti-terror insurance ... oh, and looking at the security company for the towers --- wasnt there a cousin of GWB or such responsible for the security at that time? the whole story smells fishy to me :helpme


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