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mayabong 04-13-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17030240)
sure, that's cool. ftr, the only conspiracy theory i take real issue with is the one claiming lunar landings were faked.

I saw that documentary on fox in like 98 and actually had some questions in my mind. I then saw mythbusters, and they answered some questions that I had. Although I don't always put my faith in mythbusters, they seemed to make a good case.

smutnut 04-13-2010 04:56 PM

I think we should plan a conspiracy right here and now just to see if we can pull one off. Like farting in some celebrity's grab bag or something.

Overload 04-13-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17030227)
Anyone who thinks the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, know nothing about controlled demolition.

err, the twins and wtc7 came down to a convenient little pile of rubble and barely damage was done to the surrounding buildings ... sounds pretty much like controlled demolition to me :2 cents:

PornoStar69 04-13-2010 05:12 PM

YouTube search ' WTC FLASHES

do you see the FLASHES well thats controlled demolition

mayabong 04-13-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17030273)
I think we should plan a conspiracy right here and now just to see if we can pull one off. Like farting in some celebrity's grab bag or something.

Up until a few minutes ago you thought GW was an only child.. how much more don't you know. ;)

Poindexterity 04-13-2010 05:48 PM

i dunno
whats the official version this week?

bronco67 04-13-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload (Post 17030282)
err, the twins and wtc7 came down to a convenient little pile of rubble and barely damage was done to the surrounding buildings ... sounds pretty much like controlled demolition to me :2 cents:

The Twin Towers was over 12million square feet of office space. The largest recorded controlled demolition is under 3 million, and took months to rig by an army of engineers, with miles of wiring and unfettered access to the building, which was ABANDONED.

It doesn't take anyone with more than layman's knowledge of CD to see the magnitude of the task of rigging the WTC to come down, and realize its not only improbable, but impossible. Even assuming the insurmountable logistical hurdles could be overcome, there's also the job of keeping the evil demolition experts quiet after they had killed innocent Americans.

You guys that even entertain the idea are just fucking silly, and don't even stop to think for second how it could even be possible. The funniest thing is, you act like the burden of proof is on the people who believe the official story, who basically have common sense, and Occam's Razor on their side.

J. Falcon 04-13-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17030227)
Anyone who thinks the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, know nothing about controlled demolition.

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17030241)
Short statement and pretty much says it all.

Oh yeah he really makes a compelling argument. I've heard many demolition experts say that it is impossible for the buildings to free fall the way they did, unless it was caused by some kind of controlled demolition.

dyna mo 04-13-2010 07:23 PM

there's been some very sophisticated non-gov computer modelings of the collapses and they support the fact that the planes crashing into the building and the consequential damage caused those bldgs to fall the way they did.

J. Falcon 04-13-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17030230)
You really have to feel for the simpleton democrats.. 9 years and they couldn't provide one single shred of evidence to implicate the previous administration.

This is exactly the point of this thread. It seems nobody can ask questions about what happened without being ridiculed. I never specified that it was the previous government. There are plenty of stuff that the public doesn't know about what happened and it seems that asking questions is simply frowned upon. For all the people speculating about what the founding fathers would have done in this or that situation, think about whether they would let such an atrocity go uninvestigated.

Minte 04-13-2010 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17030658)
This is exactly the point of this thread. It seems nobody can ask questions about what happened without being ridiculed. I never specified that it was the previous government. There are plenty of stuff that the public doesn't know about what happened and it seems that asking questions is simply frowned upon. For all the people speculating about what the founding fathers would have done in this or that situation, think about whether they would let such an atrocity go uninvestigated.

Do you remember Watergate? How about the infamous blue dress. People ask questions every day. My point is.clear. It's been 9 years since 9/11 and no one has provided a single piece of evidence. And to think that the democrats where so in love with President Bush to give him a free pass on anything is laughable.

Proof..that is the operative word.

PornoStar69 04-13-2010 07:39 PM

inside job aka conspiracy aka False Flag aka Operation Northwoods

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Memorandum.jpg

PornoStar69 04-13-2010 07:41 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...emorandum8.png

2012 04-13-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scarlettcontent (Post 17030108)
you gotta see this 911 Clues, Fake Media Mind Control pt 1/9


4:20 it starts to get really interesting ... damn

theking 04-13-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17030647)
Oh yeah he really makes a compelling argument. I've heard many demolition experts say that it is impossible for the buildings to free fall the way they did, unless it was caused by some kind of controlled demolition.

Well I heard what is supposed to be one of the top three Demo crews in the country explain how many man houra...how much material and the method that would have to be used...that it would take to prep even one of the Towers for a controlled demolition that it would make it a virtual impossibility for the buildings to have been prepped. I also saw a demonstration using a model based upon the design of the Towers (which was a new and unique design) would collapse in pancake fashion giving the appearance of a controlled demolition.

bronco67 04-13-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17030738)
Well I heard what is supposed to be one of the top three Demo crews in the country explain how many man houra...how much material and the method that would have to be used...that it would take to prep even one of the Towers for a controlled demolition that it would make it a virtual impossibility for the buildings to have been prepped. .


Exactly...just one of the building is 3 times the size of the biggest job ever done.

This is what seems to be going over the heads of those who subscribe to the demolition theory. There's never any explanation as to how crews of engineers could get a job of this magnitude done in one of the busiest sites in NYC. It's not like some commandos could get it done by just sneaking in and throwing a few timed bombs behind some desks while office workers are at the water cooler. The only things they have is .."well, the WTC was shut down and there were these mysterious trucks and stuff"...and that never even happened.

CD involves lots of drilling with large equipment, miles of wiring and unfettered access to the building. The WTC site is decidedly "fettered". Its fettered as a motherfucker.

Not. Possible. Case closed.

Phoenix 04-13-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17030593)
The Twin Towers was over 12million square feet of office space. The largest recorded controlled demolition is under 3 million, and took months to rig by an army of engineers, with miles of wiring and unfettered access to the building, which was ABANDONED.

It doesn't take anyone with more than layman's knowledge of CD to see the magnitude of the task of rigging the WTC to come down, and realize its not only improbable, but impossible. Even assuming the insurmountable logistical hurdles could be overcome, there's also the job of keeping the evil demolition experts quiet after they had killed innocent Americans.

You guys that even entertain the idea are just fucking silly, and don't even stop to think for second how it could even be possible. The funniest thing is, you act like the burden of proof is on the people who believe the official story, who basically have common sense, and Occam's Razor on their side.

sounds like you have thought this through....and for that kudos.

however i think you are unaware of some facts.

important to note i said facts....you look them up, i went over this years ago when no one cared

fact 1...large portions of the towers were put under security control, by the people running security at the building....even the head maintenance worker who could in all sense say they were his buildings....he was not allowed in these areas...meanwhile work was going on, heavy work as reported by staff when they would see the comings and goings of material and the people themselves doing the work

fact 2...for months and months before the event, office workers in the building were complaining about dust on their monitors every morning.

fact 3...wires were laid all over the building, to upgrade the networks


that in itself doesn't amount to much i know.
however, in light of the magnitude of the event in question, you really need to look at things that stand out like this...its not proof of anything really...but when added to the pile of things that dont add up that day...it certainly is noteworthy

dyna mo 04-13-2010 09:11 PM

there are many flaws in the the controlled demo theory.

1. timing. why was there such a delay between the planes impacting and the collapse? not to mention the actual plan: let's fly a plane into a building, we know it won't make the building fall so we will load the bldg with tons of explosives and then wait a while after impact to blw the bldgs.

2. so the 3 bldgs were wired to blow but the decision to blow bldg 7 was not made until after all the shit hit the fan and even then, the decision was made by silverstein.

3. a complete lack of any explosive debris after.

4. 30,000 employees work in those 3 bldgs and not 1 of them noticed anything out of the ordinary while the bldgs were being wired.

5. nano-thermite, it burns, it does not explode. the amount required to collapse those bldgs is more than there is available at any one time on the planet.

LoveSandra 04-14-2010 04:49 AM

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scarlettcontent 04-14-2010 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scarlettcontent (Post 17030108)
you gotta see this 911 Clues, Fake Media Mind Control pt 1/9


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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 17030699)
4:20 it starts to get really interesting ... damn

sure is freaky if there were no planes at all.

Martin 04-14-2010 05:25 AM

BBC reporting on building 7's collapse while it's still standing in the shot right behind them was a little strange.

Quagmire 04-14-2010 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17030036)
?If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.?

-Joseph Goebbels famous Nazi

For the government, you don't have to tell a lie and get people to believe it. You just have to get enough bullshit in the mix to create confusion.

Scare a herd of sheep from multiple directions and they all cram up close together and move as one big group. Do it to your population and you have the freedom to do whatever you want to them with their blessing.

Not that I am saying the US government was involved in the attacks, but they certainly took advantage of the resulting chaos and fear.

Chosen 04-14-2010 06:24 AM

Voted...

Oracle Porn 04-14-2010 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17029475)
If the government was able to pull off the amazing feat of putting explosives into a building with thousands of people in it in the middle of manhattan, and with all of the people involved managing to never even tell one spouse; then why didn't they send a small seal team into Iraq in the beginning of the invasion in order plant a cache of WMDs to be "found" in the middle of the desert? It would have been MUCH MUCH easier to pull off and to keep secret, and would have then totally justified the whole war.


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ya much much easier transporting a nuclear bomb from united states to iraq and spoofing it like they made it "in-house"...what a dumb ass!

The Demon 04-14-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17029484)
I honestly don't believe the government has it in them to coordinate something like this. I have the same problem with the JFK assassination. They can't even clean up hurricanes or develop a healthcare system.

Why is it the government can't do anything correctly except major conspiracies of epic proportions? :1orglaugh

P.S. This probably also means the official report is worthless too though, but not out of malice, just incompetence.

JFK? Thank the New Orleans, Chicago, and Tampa Crime Families.

Davy 04-14-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17029445)
Simple question: do you believe the official version of what happened on 9 / 11?

I don't know. Because of 9/11, the US defense budget was upped by Billions of dollars. It would be very convenient to think that the Bush family and others created all of this to sack the money.

The Demon 04-14-2010 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17029515)
that's a complete misrepresentation. 9/11 truthers/conspiracy theorists are incapable of adult debate re: the topic. you all sit back with your arms crossed and demand others disprove your negative comments and spout such things as *it's impossible for a building to naturally collapse like wtc #7 did* all the while acting like you understand the physics of such things as nano-thermite.

and never show any willingness to admit you do not know what the fuck you are talking about.

i've yet to see one single truther/conspiracy theorist say anything along the lines of *well, that makes sense, there's no way they could get enough nano-thermite in that building.*

or *well, yes, it makes no sense that the larry silverstein (the owner of bldg #7) had the sole authority to call for the building's collapse and it's quite preposterous that he is the only one of all the people involved in the conspiracy to slip, revealing the conspiracy.*

that being said, i do not believe in the official version, but there's no point in even trying to carry on an adult conversation with people who are completely unwilling to budge from their myopic, uneducated, & overly-simplistic view of the event.

You and I finally agree on something. "IT WAS THE JEWS!!!"

mmcfadden 04-14-2010 06:58 AM

What was that You Tube video with all the witnesses to contradict 9/11 stories ending up mysteriously dead?

Any verified truth to it?

The Demon 04-14-2010 07:03 AM

There have been many conspiracy theories. In the real world(hint: not the computer), the conspiracy nuts get ridiculed because, well, they have no logical arguments to back up their nonsense. On the internet, it's the conspiracy nuts ridiculing OTHERS and accusing them to be sheeple because they're insecure enough to branch out on their own and pray people think they're intelligent enough because they think differently. Kinda ironic.

While I don't think anyone truly believes the government version 100%, over 2,000 people died that day. Perhaps we could stop spitting on their ashes with these retarded theories. Nobody thinks you're more intelligent just because you believe it was a "conspiracy", or an "inside job", so just drop it.

Dirty Lord 04-14-2010 07:19 AM

i dont believe in everything

sperbonzo 04-14-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17031664)
ya much much easier transporting a nuclear bomb from united states to iraq and spoofing it like they made it "in-house"...what a dumb ass!


Yes, it actually would be much easier. All you would have had to do is to transport a small amount of fissionable materials, not an issue really.




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The Demon 04-14-2010 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17031844)
Yes, it actually would be much easier. All you would have had to do is to transport a small amount of fissionable materials, not an issue really.




.

Lol. Just fissionable materials? Are you sure? Because fissionable materials have to react with radioactive isotopes to achieve nuclear fission. So you would have to transport a substantial amount of plutonium or uranium as well.. That's a pretty big issue, just saying lol.

Cyber Fucker 04-14-2010 07:46 AM

nope ...

BFT3K 04-14-2010 08:33 AM

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Martin 04-14-2010 09:08 AM

Just watch the documentary on called The New American Century. Thats all I gotta say about this. :)

PornoStar69 04-14-2010 09:22 AM

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dyna mo 04-14-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17031578)
BBC reporting on building 7's collapse while it's still standing in the shot right behind them was a little strange.

they should of never been a part of the conspiracy to begin with, you can't trust the media.


they won't be a part of the NWO going forward due to this egregious slip.

CosmicTang 04-14-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17030593)
The Twin Towers was over 12million square feet of office space. The largest recorded controlled demolition is under 3 million, and took months to rig by an army of engineers, with miles of wiring and unfettered access to the building, which was ABANDONED.

It doesn't take anyone with more than layman's knowledge of CD to see the magnitude of the task of rigging the WTC to come down, and realize its not only improbable, but impossible. Even assuming the insurmountable logistical hurdles could be overcome, there's also the job of keeping the evil demolition experts quiet after they had killed innocent Americans.

Putting a man on the moon was impossible too...until they did it.

RRACY 04-14-2010 01:12 PM

Here's a good question. If the government had to prove their official story beyond a reasonable doubt like any prosecutor would have to, could reasonable doubt be raised?

bronco67 04-14-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 17032553)
Putting a man on the moon was impossible too...until they did it.

this is so apples and oranges, its not even funny.


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