There are very few news sources now that are unbiased... they're all pushing one agenda or another... I don't care if it's left, right, or upside down, they're all chopping and editing content to suit their own needs.

I can't stand the mainstream media... Since this is a Ron Paul post I'll also say that he was cut out of virtually every airing of the presidential debates. Just completely cut out. Whether you're a Ron Paul supporter or not, you've gotta admit, that's fucked up. BUT that's the mainstream media for you!

I like her actually. She's bright and remains civil. She's definitely slanted left of course. I'm sure her research is competent, but like anyone else on those channels they spin it to conform to their ideology. I've seen people push back in interviews with her and she tries to bend them to her POV even though theirs is completely valid. I distinctly remember this happening with Chris Matthews who disagreed with her on something and wouldn't cave to her "but don't you think" tacks.

I think the media, in my lifetime anyway, has historically had a liberal slant to it. Fox News I think is a result of business rather than politics. Murdoch saw an opportunity to provide a product to a segment of the population that was being under served. There were several liberal networks already. Launching another was just going to slice the same pie up into smaller pieces. But a conservative network, well, there weren't any. He had that entire population to himself. Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly are paid entertainers. They get on the air and play a part, period (I think Olbermann does too). Beck makes what, $33 million a year? For that kind of cheddar I'd act slightly to the right of Atilla the Hun too. That's what it is, an act. He's the Howard Stern of political pundits.

Perot was leading by a sizeable margin the summer before the '92 election. He dropped out and jumped back in which is what cost him. There was a lot of speculation about why he did that. I do recall there being a lot of animosity between him and the Bush family. Some thought he ran just to prevent a Bush reelection.

It's getting too easy making bft3k look dumb. One has to wonder how he's been able to breathe on his own.

Ok...you don't remember. I didn't think so.

What do you mean by this?

I guess you haven't read that Obama has bombed PAKISTAN more than Bush did

You clearly have no better arguement than the mis-spelling of a 3 letter word, Let the intelligent people debate and go back to dressing barbies

Best way for you to debate is to slander the other side of your arguement? come on, you can do better than that, can't you? Put out some substance and leave the fluffing to saucygirl

I think the statement about MATH leaning left put her in the 80% area,
See if I remember that class, mental age over chronilogical age= IQ
but maybe you don't see the demon being that high? He does bring up some good stuff. I like being more in the center, but you really can't attack the right now because, well, they don't have a say in anything, at least not yet! I have because of these postings on GFY seen some things that the President is doing right, I actually like what I hear about the nuke talks, I get what he's trying to do. I was part of that whole cold war thing and it scares the hell out of me, I know what one trident class submarine can do and no power on earth needs that much power.


I put down what the left is doing, and I get attacked for being right? LMAO

Right Wing Propaganda!!

When you deal with morons(even by porn forum standards) like those two, you just have to notice the obvious pattern. They don't have any logical arguments, only emotional ones based on bullshit and their own skewed perceptions. All you have to do is introduce a logical argument and wait for them to call you "right wing nut job" or "fox news lover" or "Reagan's bitch", you get the point. That's when you know they're embarrassed to be who they are.

WTF do you know Vendzilla? You can't even spell ARGUMENT. It's argument not arguement dumbass. Now I know where all those misspelled teaparty signs came from.

We could use some of Ron Paul's economic ideas here in the Philippines. Booty Capitalism (not the good kind of booty) only leads to one thing: systemic poverty.

Ok, you got me on the spelling of a word bigger than 3 letters, but I still have you on the fluffing and the 80% IQ

Pretty sad if you make your living at writing and that's the best you can do


Oh and Tea Party is two words, MORON!

The grammar nazi is a last resort argument. When they have no legs to stand on, they try and pick apart your post for spelling and grammar errors.

speaking of Maddow, I saw her on Jimmy Fallon a few nights ago. She was promoting a 2 hour special airing on the 19th. She got access to 40 hours of never before seen taped interviews with Timothy McVeigh and she is doing a special about them. Supposedly in them he explains exactly why he did what he did, how he did it and how he got to the point where he was so angry he decided to do it.

It sounds interesting and I look forward to seeing it. I don't watch her show very often (Actually only seen it a couple of times) but this sounds pretty interesting.

it may be interesting, but I'll pass, not going to give my time to that guy

Gee I wonder why thats coming out now. the msnbc propaganda in full swing. Seriously what a waste of time to give McVeigh any more air time.

How about she spend 2 hours on the illegal bombings of Pakistan and killing of innocent women and children that Obama is doing right now? Or how Obama now has policy to assassinate American citizen. :disgust

I could have not said it better

That is the beauty of freedom of speech and the press. You can choose to show your dislike for the subject matter by not tuning in and you could even choose to write them a letter or email and express to them why you are not watching. Hell, you could probably choose to even write the sponsors of her show, that network or the sponsor that buy time on that exact show and tell them how you will not support them by buying their product since they are so blatantly buying into the liberal propaganda machine.

Some see this show as a waste of time. I think it could be interesting. I for one am interested in finding out what it is that caused a regular guy to get so angry with his country that he felt he had to kill many innocent people to prove his point. Maybe there is a lesson of some value there.

Or maybe I could just sit around the house and assume anyone who has any leaning left of center has nothing of any value to add to the country and stew in my own hatred of the president and assume that everything and everyone is bought and sold and nothing is done just because it might be interesting or informative, but instead to push an agenda.

Or maybe the guy was a nut

Doubtful. You don't carry out something like he did and stay off the radar for as long as he did prior to carrying out the act if you are crazy. He knew what he was doing and had an agenda. He knew that he would likely pay for his act with his life and he was willing to make that trade. Most Westerners don't have that kind of conviction in their beliefs.

I don't know how much you know about him...but a couple of things that I found that was interesting to me...is the fact that he was a serious and outstanding soldier. He became somewhat bitter when he had prepped himself mentally and physically to apply for the Green Berets and was accepted but was diverted to Saudi for Operation Desert Shield and then he fought during Operation Desert Storm. After Desert Storm was over he was sent to Green Beret training but quit after just a few days as he no longer was physically prepared. During the months of Desert Shield one spent a lot of time basically sitting on ones ass and Green Berets have a gruelling physical training requirement and one must prep themselves before entering. He was disappointed in the military for not allowing his entrance when he was prepped...by diverting him to Operation Desert Shield and disappointed in himself for not being able to meet the physical requirements. Thus he left the military in an embittered state of mind.

Then being a witness to Waco and Ruby Ridge pissed him off. Actually both incidents pissed me off also...particularly Ruby Ridge.

I agree with your freedom of speech. And looking at msnbc ratings a lot of Americans agree they have the right to say what they want, however foolish and transparent their propaganda is, and choose not to watch it.

msnbc was great when they were questioning Bush, I watched them more than any other station. But after a few years of watching them questioning everything Bush did, then turn silent and boot licking when Obama takes office turned me off.

Im not a conspiracy theorist at all, but you should look up some theories on the bombing. There are high ranking US generals that specialize in explosives, say he did not act alone and there were more bombs in the building.

Seriously, I have watched a bit of MSNBC recently and they are so biased towards the Dems, and so rabidly anti Republicans its simply entertaining to watch. They don't even try to be fair, and make no apologies for it. Good luck to them, we all know people will watch the 'news' they want to watch.

CNN on the other hand has gotten better, and Fox while still leaning to the right has shifted a bit more to the middle too.

Zionists run the media this is why you will never see Ron Paul promoted by these stations. He is against the alliance with Israel. I'm sure Wolf Blitzer (former aipac) and Rupert Murdoch (winner of ADL awards).. would love to pump up a guy that wants to cut ties with israel. Again, being anti zionist isn't anti jew. Wolf and Rupert are just 2 names, there are hundreds more.. look for yourself.

Ron Paul is a loon, he'll never be President and he wont even come close to winning his party's nomination.