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Vendzilla 04-20-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17056685)
This country's great right/left divide became very ugly during Bill Clinton's presidency. It was always there, but it wasn't until Fox (which officially launched on October 9, 1986) fanned the flames, and the hatred was heated up to the point where it is today.

Yeah it's terrible when people get both sides

I remember the people shouting out baby killer at Bush rallies covered by MSNBC

directfiesta 04-20-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056724)
You are so proving against yourself, have you seen the latest figures under Obama in foreign aid? How much has he spent on further war efforts since taking office?

You are RIGHT ..... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Demon 04-20-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17053368)
Why would a difference in politics equat to respect?
If everybody thought the same way, it would be a boring existance.

Ignore GatorB and the liberal morons. If it's not leftist bullshit, it's automatically right wing propaganda.

J. Falcon 04-20-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056694)
I watch him and the one thing I love about the show is that he gives the liberals a place to come on the show, watching it when Jon Stewart comes on is a crack up

Yes, here is interviewing (attacking) the son of a 9 / 11 victim.



J. Falcon 04-20-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056755)
Ignore GatorB and the liberal morons. If it's not leftist bullshit, it's automatically right wing propaganda.

STFU you worthless troll.

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17056764)
STFU you worthless troll.

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17056764)
Boohoo nobody acknowledges my existence on this forum because I'm a moronic tool.

What a loser..

IllTestYourGirls 04-20-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056752)
Yeah it's terrible when people get both sides

I remember the people shouting out baby killer at Bush rallies covered by MSNBC

Being anti-war and for small government (they actually go hand in hand, something the left has yet to understand) I have been to both anti-war rallies and tea parties. The anti-war rallies were the most hate filled events I have seen. I would never take my child to one. However, the tea parties is like a Sunday picnic. Tons of children and families.

mayabong 04-20-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17056745)
Yeah he gives them a place, in order to ridicule them and cut their mics when they say something he doesn't want to hear.
















This last video is the best. Watch the end.


NIce Montage!

directfiesta 04-20-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056752)
Yeah it's terrible when people get both sides

I remember the people shouting out baby killer at Bush rallies covered by MSNBC

At your level .... pics you should understand ...:1orglaugh

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image.../bush_baby.jpg

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17056769)
Being anti-war and for small government (they actually go hand in hand, something the left has yet to understand) I have been to both anti-war rallies and tea parties. The anti-war rallies were the most hate filled events I have seen. I would never take my child to one. However, the tea parties is like a Sunday picnic. Tons of children and families.

No way you're lying and spewing right wing propaganda.

J. Falcon 04-20-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056767)
What a loser..

Right, that's why I'm in conversations with people every here every day while you just troll for political threads where you can call other people "morons" right? Isn't that right Dave?

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17056775)
Right, that's why I'm in conversations with people every here every day while you just troll for political threads where you can call other people "morons" right? Isn't that right Dave?

That's why you are virtually 100% ignored in political threads when you try so hard to post? That includes making threads and being ignored, calling me a troll(the irony) and being ignored, and calling me "dave", and being ignored. You're a sad human being:)

mayabong 04-20-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056767)
What a loser..

This is an honest question demon that I don't know the answer to. What is the difference between a liberal and a true conservative republican? Since I hate labels anyways I'd like to know what a liberal is, (their beliefs)

Vendzilla 04-20-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17056773)
At your level .... pics you should understand ...:1orglaugh

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image.../bush_baby.jpg

Right now, your level is that of a tree stump, let me know when you can do better than a bad picture

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:06 AM

The funny thing is, I'm on this forum mostly for intellectual discussions, if not finding random dating sponsors, and I don't troll adult threads. You embarrass yourself on a daily basis trolling intellectual threads with your nonsense, and then wonder why nobody, including the admin, pays any attention to you. :)

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056790)
This is an honest question demon that I don't know the answer to. What is the difference between a liberal and a true conservative republican? Since I hate labels anyways I'd like to know what a liberal is, (their beliefs)

Depends on what you mean by liberal? Do you mean classical liberal, or modern liberal?

http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_L...ervatis m.pdf

This is the best read I've ever seen on the different political ideologies.. You won't find anything more descriptive.

J. Falcon 04-20-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056799)
The funny thing is, I'm on this forum mostly for intellectual discussions

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mayabong 04-20-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056799)
The funny thing is, I'm on this forum mostly for intellectual discussions, if not finding random dating sponsors, and I don't troll adult threads. You embarrass yourself on a daily basis trolling intellectual threads with your nonsense, and then wonder why nobody, including the admin, pays any attention to you. :)

I've honestly never seen you have a discussion demon haha. If you can't debate something that has been brought up you just call names or say people are on drugs. Great intellectual debater!

Tom_PM 04-20-2010 11:10 AM

Do I "believe" that at some point the government would go after someone who 1) doesnt buy insurance 2) doesnt pay a penalty 3) doesnt have any government income to garnish and 4) doesnt ever get any tax refunds or rebates from which to garnish either?

Shit I dont know. Maybe? How many permutations and strange twists do I, a nobody, have to imagine and then answer for others on gfy? Zero.

:pimp

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:11 AM

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You see, today's liberals want to be ruled by an enligthened despot, the "best and the brightest," not "Joe Six-Pack." Kings, so to speak, descended from other kings. Or even better, a Lightworker. They distrust individual rights and disdain the "normal, average American."

Contast this with Classical Liberalism as espoused by John Locke, Adam Smith, and Thomas Jefferson. They believed strongly in limited government and the free market. While Modern Liberalism believes that people only have rights as delineated by the government, Classical Liberalism held that people have natural rights from the Divine Creator, apart from government. Government derived its power solely from the people, and the people could dissolve the government at will. The only legitimate purpose of government was to protect these individual rights.

Jefferson believed the power of the government should lay with the comman man, the so-called "yeoman farmer." He distrusted elites and felt legislators would be influenced by the wealthy.
...........

J. Falcon 04-20-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056815)
I've honestly never seen you have a discussion demon haha. If you can't debate something that has been brought up you just call names or say people are on drugs. Great intellectual debater!

Or maybe he just tells people like Vendzilla to ignore so and so because so and so is a retard and a moron. Or quotes people like me and tells me everyone ignores me, although ironically he is always responding to whatever I say. But in his own mind he is a great debater and apparently an intellectual :1orglaugh

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056815)
I've honestly never seen you have a discussion demon haha. If you can't debate something that has been brought up you just call names or say people are on drugs. Great intellectual debater!

When people below my intellectual capacities try to criticize my intelligence, I find it amusing. By your logic, nobody is able to debate with you because you come up with the most outlandish shit, and expect people to prove you wrong. Try again:)

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17056824)
Or maybe he just tells people like Vendzilla to ignore so and so because so and so is a retard and a moron. Or quotes people like me and tells me everyone ignores me, although ironically he is always responding to whatever I say. But in his own mind he is a great debater and apparently an intellectual :1orglaugh

Poor guy. He hilarious omits the fact that I always tell him I have so much sympathy for him, that I'm the only one who responds to him. It's sad talking to someone almost twice your age, and half your IQ. Oh well, you're in the right business JFalcon!

Oh I forgot, anybody who ignores or makes fun of JFalcon is either me using another username, or me telling them to ignore/make fun of him!! ROFL talk about delusional.

mayabong 04-20-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056822)
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I don't understand, do you agree with most of what ron paul says? or more of what palin says? You seem to lean more in the ron paul direction (maybe I'm wrong). Isn't that a more liberal position?

J. Falcon 04-20-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056827)
When people below my intellectual capacities try to criticize my intelligence, I find it amusing.

Are there people that stupid?

Vendzilla 04-20-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17056760)
Yes, here is interviewing (attacking) the son of a 9 / 11 victim.



I don't see where he was attacking him, he was attacking his politics, maybe writing like that you should work for Fox news?

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056833)
I don't understand, do you agree with most of what ron paul says? or more of what palin says? You seem to lean more in the ron paul direction (maybe I'm wrong). Isn't that a more liberal position?

I agree with Ron Paul's economic policies because he's a genius in that field. I think his foreign policies are shit.

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056842)
I don't see where he was attacking him, he was attacking his politics, maybe writing like that you should work for Fox news?

JFalcon is the dumbest of the dumbest. It's inconceivable that this moron doesn't have some kind of help getting through the day. His stupidity is both amusing and sad.

J. Falcon 04-20-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056842)
I don't see where he was attacking him, he was attacking his politics, maybe writing like that you should work for Fox news?

You don't see where he was attacking him? Telling him to shut up, ordering his microphone to be cut off, saying shit about his father. Please. And what happened to the other videos I posted? You couldn't find anything to say about those?

mayabong 04-20-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056849)
I agree with Ron Paul's economic policies because he's a genius in that field. I think his foreign policies are shit.

According to ron paul you can't have a foreign policy like we have and have an economic policy like he preaches (it cant be sustained). His economic policies are directly tied to his foreign policy.. don't see how you can like one and hate the other. This is the paradox of the hijacked tea party these days.
:2 cents:

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056871)
According to ron paul you can't have a foreign policy like we have and have an economic policy like he preaches (it cant be sustained). His economic policies are directly tied to his foreign policy.. don't see how you can like one and hate the other. This is the paradox of the hijacked tea party these days.
:2 cents:

Please explain to me how it can't be sustained? Do you even know his foreign policies? They are weak, they diminish national security against foreign threats, THOSE are the ones I'm talking about.

directfiesta 04-20-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056794)
Right now, your level is that of a tree stump, let me know when you can do better than a bad picture

Let me hold your hand ...


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17053543)
So you don't think they deserve protection under freedom of speech?

What exactly is unamerican that they do?

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17054194)
They don't support the President, their country .... they are america haters, terrorists , muslim lovers, terrorist supporters ...


????? sounds familiar ?


BTW, isn't GFY an adult webmaster board ? :)

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056185)
Where do you get they are America haters, your kinda narrow minded to think that because they think differently that they hate America, having a different opinion is about as American as you can get.

And yes, it's an adult webmaster board, whats your point?

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17056529)
You obviously were not here in 2003 ... or you are suffering from Alzheimer :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056568)
Ok, I'll play your game, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17056679)
Can't spend hours looking ... but here is an example :

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hate+amer ica

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That just showed you one instance of criticising Bush & his government been labelled as " hate " ...
.. and you come back with Obama spends money on war .. How can you miss the whole point if it is not that you are either a staunch closed mind extreme rifght winger or just plain stupid.


Clif notes: Criticising the US gov in 2002-2006 was being a hater, a terrorist supporter.


Now I will stick to dumb picture posting, even tougjh you did not get the humor of it ..

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:29 AM

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How can you miss the whole point if it is not that you are either a staunch closed mind extreme left winger or just plain stupid.
Fixed.....

mayabong 04-20-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056880)
Please explain to me how it can't be sustained? Do you even know his foreign policies? They are weak, they diminish national security against foreign threats, THOSE are the ones I'm talking about.

Yep I know his foreign policies very well. He wants to take all the troops home, end support for states like israel. Yes it can't be sustained because the country is bankrupt and we still pay trillions to support the empire an israel. He wants to stop all that and use the money here at home. As far as his foreign policy (i'll give you and him the benifit of the doubt that 9/11 was done by some radicals from the muslim world). I think he's totally right that having our bases in other countries pisses people off and weakens our national security. He always uses the comparison of what would we do if other countries had bases in our country. I think its a fair arguement.

BestXXXPorn 04-20-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056871)
According to ron paul you can't have a foreign policy like we have and have an economic policy like he preaches (it cant be sustained). His economic policies are directly tied to his foreign policy.. don't see how you can like one and hate the other. This is the paradox of the hijacked tea party these days.
:2 cents:

You are correct, I've read a lot on Ron Paul... I personally, am a Ron Paul supporter. I'm a Libertarian so that has a lot to do with it ;)

I disagree with The Demon that his foreign policy makes us more vulnerable to attacks.... Attacks from who? I think our current foreign policy makes us more of a target than anything else. I'd rather be more "open" to attacks and have additional liberties than be highly secured but everyone wanting to attack us!

Oh and Ron Paul is not a liberal ;) Big difference between Libertarian and liberal although many people tie the two together (I'm guessing because of the root word involved).

Edit: And +1 for Maya's post above this, our POV is inline on this topic :)

Vendzilla 04-20-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17056885)
Let me hold your hand ...



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That just showed you one instance of criticising Bush & his government been labelled as " hate " ...
.. and you come back with Obama spends money on war .. How can you miss the whole point if it is not that you are either a staunch closed mind extreme rifght winger or just plain stupid.


Clif notes: Criticising the US gov in 2002-2006 was being a hater, a terrorist supporter.


Now I will stick to dumb picture posting, even tougjh you did not get the humor of it ..

You're jumping all over the place and you're not making any sense, are you celebrating 420 with a couple grams of hash on your rice krispies?

You never even explained the statement about GFY being a webmaster board.

How is protesting what the government is doing as UN-American

How is a picture of Bush with a baby, hate?

And Cliff notes, protesting against big government and government over spending and a huge jobless rate is tea bagging, racist, red neck, violent behavior according to the liberals

And lastly, I don't really care what Bush did, it's over, now I'm more concerned about Obama is doing and just because Bush did, doesn't make it OK.

Vendzilla 04-20-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056935)
Yep I know his foreign policies very well. He wants to take all the troops home, end support for states like israel. Yes it can't be sustained because the country is bankrupt and we still pay trillions to support the empire an israel. He wants to stop all that and use the money here at home. As far as his foreign policy (i'll give you and him the benifit of the doubt that 9/11 was done by some radicals from the muslim world). I think he's totally right that having our bases in other countries pisses people off and weakens our national security. He always uses the comparison of what would we do if other countries had bases in our country. I think its a fair arguement.

I have to agree with all that, well, other countries can't afford bases in the US, so they just tie up when they need to.
Bring home the troops
Drill for oil off our coasts, not look for it, they already know where it's at, then we don't need the middle east for anything.

Vendzilla 04-20-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17056860)
You don't see where he was attacking him? Telling him to shut up, ordering his microphone to be cut off, saying shit about his father. Please. And what happened to the other videos I posted? You couldn't find anything to say about those?

It looked like a liberal that had a parent die in 9/11 and brought a soap box to talk to Oreilly.
I looked at the websites that posted them, he's doing his job, bring up controversy about whats going on in the world, is it bias? hell yes, it puts butts in the sits. Does he lie intentionally, I don't think so, he has staffers that look up things for him. If you watched him, you would know that he brings up whats said about him all the time, if someone proves that he's wrong about something, he admits it. That's why he is number one, that's because he gets people pissed off about whats going on in the world.

But here's the question,would we be better off if we only heard from the other media, you know the media that the president likes? And why does he like them?
Working in porn, wouldn't you be against censorship?

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056935)
Yep I know his foreign policies very well. He wants to take all the troops home, end support for states like israel. Yes it can't be sustained because the country is bankrupt and we still pay trillions to support the empire an israel. He wants to stop all that and use the money here at home. As far as his foreign policy (i'll give you and him the benifit of the doubt that 9/11 was done by some radicals from the muslim world). I think he's totally right that having our bases in other countries pisses people off and weakens our national security. He always uses the comparison of what would we do if other countries had bases in our country. I think its a fair arguement.


Please show me exactly how many "trillions" we pay to the "empire of Israel."

mayabong 04-20-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057622)
Please show me exactly how many "trillions" we pay to the "empire of Israel."

I meant trillions supporting our empire, I think our aid to israel itself is around 91 Billion a year though.

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17057637)
I meant trillions supporting our empire, I think our aid to israel itself is around 91 Billion a year though.

Please show me statistics. You are so eager to claim that you offer proof for your wild and baseless accusations, I'll wait:)

mayabong 04-20-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057644)
Please show me statistics. You are so eager to claim that you offer proof for your wild and baseless accusations, I'll wait:)

I'm wrong, the 91 Billion is the total since israel came into existence.
Our Aid is around 2.5 billion a year

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_Congress_approves_Israel_aid_inc_06272008.html

mayabong 04-20-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057644)
Please show me statistics. You are so eager to claim that you offer proof for your wild and baseless accusations, I'll wait:)

As far as how much our 700+ bases in 130 countries cost to run, I don't know the exact number but it isn't cheap. I'll try to find that.

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17057676)
I'm wrong, the 91 Billion is the total since israel came into existence.
Our Aid is around 2.5 billion a year

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_Congress_approves_Israel_aid_inc_06272008.html

2.5 billion? Well holy hell, we're going bankrupt supporting that god damned Zionist empire while Obama and Bernanke continue their useless and astronomical deficit spending!

mayabong 04-20-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057707)
2.5 billion? Well holy hell, we're going bankrupt supporting that god damned Zionist empire while Obama and Bernanke continue their useless and astronomical deficit spending!

Thats right, I'm sure Bernanke's all about america first, the homeland second. ;)

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17057727)
Thats right, I'm sure Bernanke's all about america first, the homeland second. ;)

Haven't heard this conspiracy. Should be riveting.

J. Falcon 04-20-2010 02:55 PM

The Demon: the intellectual troll.

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17057741)
The Demon: the intellectual troll.


JFalcon: The incompetent troll nobody pays attention to unless they're incredibly sympathetic.

directfiesta 04-20-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vendzilla (Post 17056794)
right now, your level is that of a tree stump, let me know when you can do better than a bad picture

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Originally Posted by vendzilla (Post 17057231)
you're jumping all over the place and you're not making any sense, are you celebrating 420 with a couple grams of hash on your rice krispies?

You never even explained the statement about gfy being a webmaster board.

How is protesting what the government is doing as un-american

how is a picture of bush with a baby, hate?

And cliff notes, protesting against big government and government over spending and a huge jobless rate is tea bagging, racist, red neck, violent behavior according to the liberals

and lastly, i don't really care what bush did, it's over, now i'm more concerned about obama is doing and just because bush did, doesn't make it ok.

wow !~ ....

mayabong 04-20-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057730)
Haven't heard this conspiracy. Should be riveting.

Why does the united states borrow money from the fed at interest, when it can just print it itself? Why isn't the Fed a part of the government? Why can't the government regulate the fed? Who owns the fed? Who does Ben Shalom Bernanke work for?

There's your conspiracy


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