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The Demon 04-20-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056871)
According to ron paul you can't have a foreign policy like we have and have an economic policy like he preaches (it cant be sustained). His economic policies are directly tied to his foreign policy.. don't see how you can like one and hate the other. This is the paradox of the hijacked tea party these days.
:2 cents:

Please explain to me how it can't be sustained? Do you even know his foreign policies? They are weak, they diminish national security against foreign threats, THOSE are the ones I'm talking about.

directfiesta 04-20-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056794)
Right now, your level is that of a tree stump, let me know when you can do better than a bad picture

Let me hold your hand ...


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17053543)
So you don't think they deserve protection under freedom of speech?

What exactly is unamerican that they do?

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17054194)
They don't support the President, their country .... they are america haters, terrorists , muslim lovers, terrorist supporters ...


????? sounds familiar ?


BTW, isn't GFY an adult webmaster board ? :)

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056185)
Where do you get they are America haters, your kinda narrow minded to think that because they think differently that they hate America, having a different opinion is about as American as you can get.

And yes, it's an adult webmaster board, whats your point?

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17056529)
You obviously were not here in 2003 ... or you are suffering from Alzheimer :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17056568)
Ok, I'll play your game, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17056679)
Can't spend hours looking ... but here is an example :

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hate+amer ica

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That just showed you one instance of criticising Bush & his government been labelled as " hate " ...
.. and you come back with Obama spends money on war .. How can you miss the whole point if it is not that you are either a staunch closed mind extreme rifght winger or just plain stupid.


Clif notes: Criticising the US gov in 2002-2006 was being a hater, a terrorist supporter.


Now I will stick to dumb picture posting, even tougjh you did not get the humor of it ..

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:29 AM

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How can you miss the whole point if it is not that you are either a staunch closed mind extreme left winger or just plain stupid.
Fixed.....

mayabong 04-20-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17056880)
Please explain to me how it can't be sustained? Do you even know his foreign policies? They are weak, they diminish national security against foreign threats, THOSE are the ones I'm talking about.

Yep I know his foreign policies very well. He wants to take all the troops home, end support for states like israel. Yes it can't be sustained because the country is bankrupt and we still pay trillions to support the empire an israel. He wants to stop all that and use the money here at home. As far as his foreign policy (i'll give you and him the benifit of the doubt that 9/11 was done by some radicals from the muslim world). I think he's totally right that having our bases in other countries pisses people off and weakens our national security. He always uses the comparison of what would we do if other countries had bases in our country. I think its a fair arguement.

BestXXXPorn 04-20-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056871)
According to ron paul you can't have a foreign policy like we have and have an economic policy like he preaches (it cant be sustained). His economic policies are directly tied to his foreign policy.. don't see how you can like one and hate the other. This is the paradox of the hijacked tea party these days.
:2 cents:

You are correct, I've read a lot on Ron Paul... I personally, am a Ron Paul supporter. I'm a Libertarian so that has a lot to do with it ;)

I disagree with The Demon that his foreign policy makes us more vulnerable to attacks.... Attacks from who? I think our current foreign policy makes us more of a target than anything else. I'd rather be more "open" to attacks and have additional liberties than be highly secured but everyone wanting to attack us!

Oh and Ron Paul is not a liberal ;) Big difference between Libertarian and liberal although many people tie the two together (I'm guessing because of the root word involved).

Edit: And +1 for Maya's post above this, our POV is inline on this topic :)

Vendzilla 04-20-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17056885)
Let me hold your hand ...



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That just showed you one instance of criticising Bush & his government been labelled as " hate " ...
.. and you come back with Obama spends money on war .. How can you miss the whole point if it is not that you are either a staunch closed mind extreme rifght winger or just plain stupid.


Clif notes: Criticising the US gov in 2002-2006 was being a hater, a terrorist supporter.


Now I will stick to dumb picture posting, even tougjh you did not get the humor of it ..

You're jumping all over the place and you're not making any sense, are you celebrating 420 with a couple grams of hash on your rice krispies?

You never even explained the statement about GFY being a webmaster board.

How is protesting what the government is doing as UN-American

How is a picture of Bush with a baby, hate?

And Cliff notes, protesting against big government and government over spending and a huge jobless rate is tea bagging, racist, red neck, violent behavior according to the liberals

And lastly, I don't really care what Bush did, it's over, now I'm more concerned about Obama is doing and just because Bush did, doesn't make it OK.

Vendzilla 04-20-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056935)
Yep I know his foreign policies very well. He wants to take all the troops home, end support for states like israel. Yes it can't be sustained because the country is bankrupt and we still pay trillions to support the empire an israel. He wants to stop all that and use the money here at home. As far as his foreign policy (i'll give you and him the benifit of the doubt that 9/11 was done by some radicals from the muslim world). I think he's totally right that having our bases in other countries pisses people off and weakens our national security. He always uses the comparison of what would we do if other countries had bases in our country. I think its a fair arguement.

I have to agree with all that, well, other countries can't afford bases in the US, so they just tie up when they need to.
Bring home the troops
Drill for oil off our coasts, not look for it, they already know where it's at, then we don't need the middle east for anything.

Vendzilla 04-20-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17056860)
You don't see where he was attacking him? Telling him to shut up, ordering his microphone to be cut off, saying shit about his father. Please. And what happened to the other videos I posted? You couldn't find anything to say about those?

It looked like a liberal that had a parent die in 9/11 and brought a soap box to talk to Oreilly.
I looked at the websites that posted them, he's doing his job, bring up controversy about whats going on in the world, is it bias? hell yes, it puts butts in the sits. Does he lie intentionally, I don't think so, he has staffers that look up things for him. If you watched him, you would know that he brings up whats said about him all the time, if someone proves that he's wrong about something, he admits it. That's why he is number one, that's because he gets people pissed off about whats going on in the world.

But here's the question,would we be better off if we only heard from the other media, you know the media that the president likes? And why does he like them?
Working in porn, wouldn't you be against censorship?

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17056935)
Yep I know his foreign policies very well. He wants to take all the troops home, end support for states like israel. Yes it can't be sustained because the country is bankrupt and we still pay trillions to support the empire an israel. He wants to stop all that and use the money here at home. As far as his foreign policy (i'll give you and him the benifit of the doubt that 9/11 was done by some radicals from the muslim world). I think he's totally right that having our bases in other countries pisses people off and weakens our national security. He always uses the comparison of what would we do if other countries had bases in our country. I think its a fair arguement.


Please show me exactly how many "trillions" we pay to the "empire of Israel."

mayabong 04-20-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057622)
Please show me exactly how many "trillions" we pay to the "empire of Israel."

I meant trillions supporting our empire, I think our aid to israel itself is around 91 Billion a year though.

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17057637)
I meant trillions supporting our empire, I think our aid to israel itself is around 91 Billion a year though.

Please show me statistics. You are so eager to claim that you offer proof for your wild and baseless accusations, I'll wait:)

mayabong 04-20-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057644)
Please show me statistics. You are so eager to claim that you offer proof for your wild and baseless accusations, I'll wait:)

I'm wrong, the 91 Billion is the total since israel came into existence.
Our Aid is around 2.5 billion a year

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_Congress_approves_Israel_aid_inc_06272008.html

mayabong 04-20-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057644)
Please show me statistics. You are so eager to claim that you offer proof for your wild and baseless accusations, I'll wait:)

As far as how much our 700+ bases in 130 countries cost to run, I don't know the exact number but it isn't cheap. I'll try to find that.

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17057676)
I'm wrong, the 91 Billion is the total since israel came into existence.
Our Aid is around 2.5 billion a year

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_Congress_approves_Israel_aid_inc_06272008.html

2.5 billion? Well holy hell, we're going bankrupt supporting that god damned Zionist empire while Obama and Bernanke continue their useless and astronomical deficit spending!

mayabong 04-20-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057707)
2.5 billion? Well holy hell, we're going bankrupt supporting that god damned Zionist empire while Obama and Bernanke continue their useless and astronomical deficit spending!

Thats right, I'm sure Bernanke's all about america first, the homeland second. ;)

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17057727)
Thats right, I'm sure Bernanke's all about america first, the homeland second. ;)

Haven't heard this conspiracy. Should be riveting.

J. Falcon 04-20-2010 02:55 PM

The Demon: the intellectual troll.

The Demon 04-20-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17057741)
The Demon: the intellectual troll.


JFalcon: The incompetent troll nobody pays attention to unless they're incredibly sympathetic.

directfiesta 04-20-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vendzilla (Post 17056794)
right now, your level is that of a tree stump, let me know when you can do better than a bad picture

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Originally Posted by vendzilla (Post 17057231)
you're jumping all over the place and you're not making any sense, are you celebrating 420 with a couple grams of hash on your rice krispies?

You never even explained the statement about gfy being a webmaster board.

How is protesting what the government is doing as un-american

how is a picture of bush with a baby, hate?

And cliff notes, protesting against big government and government over spending and a huge jobless rate is tea bagging, racist, red neck, violent behavior according to the liberals

and lastly, i don't really care what bush did, it's over, now i'm more concerned about obama is doing and just because bush did, doesn't make it ok.

wow !~ ....

mayabong 04-20-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057730)
Haven't heard this conspiracy. Should be riveting.

Why does the united states borrow money from the fed at interest, when it can just print it itself? Why isn't the Fed a part of the government? Why can't the government regulate the fed? Who owns the fed? Who does Ben Shalom Bernanke work for?

There's your conspiracy

The Demon 04-20-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17057788)
Why does the united states borrow money from the fed at interest, when it can just print it itself? Why isn't the Fed a part of the government? Why can't the government regulate the fed? Who owns the fed? Who does Ben Shalom Bernanke work for?

There's your conspiracy

I'm not sure you've studied economics but the more money in circulation= the less it's worth. It's pretty much the Law of Scarcity. The Fed IS a part of the government. The government and the fed have the same goals. And finally, Bernanke works for Obama. Conspiracy disproved.

mayabong 04-20-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057803)
I'm not sure you've studied economics but the more money in circulation= the less it's worth. It's pretty much the Law of Scarcity. The Fed IS a part of the government. The government and the fed have the same goals. And finally, Bernanke works for Obama. Conspiracy disproved.

Ron Paul says its easier to find out what the CIA is doing than to find out what the FED is doing and he's on the Budget Committee thing. It seems like if the FED was part of the Government it would be alot easier to audit like ron paul has been trying to do.

You still didn't answer my question though, why does the government borrow money from the FED (in your case itself) at interest. (immediately putting itself into debt) When it can print it itself not worry about the debt? Of course the government has to borrow more money from the fed AT INTEREST to pay off the debt. Do you see the never ending spiral here? Why would I borrow money from myself and charge myself interest.. haha

The Demon 04-20-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17057839)

You still didn't answer my question though, why does the government borrow money from the FED (in your case itself) at interest. (immediately putting itself into debt) When it can print it itself not worry about the debt? Of course the government has to borrow more money from the fed AT INTEREST to pay off the debt. Do you see the never ending spiral here? Why would I borrow money from myself and charge myself interest.. haha

I did answer your question. It's more practical to borrow from an existing supply of money with interest, than to create a new supply of money and further debase the currency.

Vendzilla 04-20-2010 03:44 PM

I started this thread about rightnetwork, it hasn't been mentioned in how long?

mayabong 04-20-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17057850)
I did answer your question. It's more practical to borrow from an existing supply of money with interest, than to create a new supply of money and further debase the currency.

I did use the word print, and let me just say borrow. I'm still wondering how borrowing from yourself, and owing yourself interest makes any sense. The truth is that the fed sets its own policies and answers to noone. When has congress ever set a policy of the fed?

Gouge 04-20-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17053355)
Republican slanted network. Lost all respect for Kelsey Grammer.

So you admit that you did have respect for him knowing he was a card carring conservative but now you dont....makes no sense fucktard.

The Demon 04-20-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 17058353)
So you admit that you did have respect for him knowing he was a card carring conservative but now you dont....makes no sense fucktard.

Fucktards usually make no sense.

mayabong 04-20-2010 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17058367)
Fucktards usually make no sense.

Yes I never make sense. A company that borrows from itself and charges itself interest makes perfect sense.

GatorB 04-20-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17058367)
Fucktards usually make no sense.

Nice you admit the truth about yourself. please get that goat syphilis checked out.

The Demon 04-20-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17058587)
Yes I never make sense. A company that borrows from itself and charges itself interest makes perfect sense.

And that is why you don't understand basic economics, nor have any credibility with which to allege various conspiracies.


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