Lucky is better than unlucky and stupid, right? I've already confessed to liking the Oliver Stone take on little Bush.

Show me where I drew the line on Obama and Clinton?

You know what they say about those who ASSume.

All I'm doing is simply correcting your ignorant remarks.

The worst part is, I wouldn't even really think OBAMA was anything at all and was even against him for a short spin when Bill Maher was slobbering his black cock, but think about it. There are people who actually voted for the other party after all the shit that happened. That's FUCKING SCARY!

While we're all fighting each other its BUSINESS AS USUAL. anyone notice ? oh yea, you're too busy proving your points and getting manipulated...

http://i39.tinypic.com/10df7kx.jpg

Fine if it's about me, cool.

If you really think those aren't the best presidents so far (Obama still open to screw ups of course so he would be better off staying the course and doing nothing), you need to disown your affiliations.

I'm talking since like Eisenhower and Kennedy and shit.

I've no idea what you just tried to say.

Are you saying Reagan and Nixon are the best presidents we've had, or Nixon and Obama?

I'm saying Clinton is the best president we've had in our lifetime. I don't care if he went to the track and gambled it all on a good horse or not, which is complete bullshit. And half the shit that happened wouldn't have if the republicans had left him alone and let him go after Osama cause it was during the distractions of the impeachment that he wasn't able to focus on that and he had made attempts to get him.

Those towers went up because of the Republicans way more than it just being on their watch.

Presidents don't effect the economy... legislation and the fed fucking with interest rates effect the economy...

Edit: Well, more over... the entire market is what effects the economy. To say that president X or president Y was responsible for the economy is foolishness. WAAAAAY more involved than a figurehead.

You're way too bias and naive.


On that note, back to work...

Exactly!

Sure, that's what I'd do too.:thumbsup

An election result by itself can affect the economy.

And btw to all those He will be 2 termers lol

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/...il_20_2010.jpg

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

You haven't proven anything aside from your bias and ignorance. Don't act like you've accomplished something.

And in the general approval/disapproval Obama is still upside down.

I don't have to accomplish anything. I'm not the president. Maybe you feel you can or have accomplished more. Not sure LOL :1orglaugh

Your fake chart don't mean shit. I can come back here with a photoshop saying everyone wanted ET instead of Reagan. So what?

I thought you had work to do. Guess you're a little guy too huh?

You right-wing nut-job guys better start stocking up on valiums, because Obama will your president for 2 terms - guaranteed! That's a lot of stress you will have to manage.

Hotlinked from the site with a link to the poll results. Obama lit the fuse people needed to get him right out of office. Trust me the pendulum is swinging away from the left right now.

Make sure you duck, cause a pendulum swings in both directions and fast!

Poll results, what a joke! Poll results and reality tv. The guy got voted into office cause more people like his bull than that other bull, and it wasn't even close, unlike that 2000 florida poll fiasco.

A minor blip and mostly short term gains/losses on Wallstreet more than actually effecting the root performance of the economy...

What we're seeing now isn't a result of the President now or the President 5 years ago....

In my opinion it's a problem with over regulation of the economy and the choices made to regulate the economy...

Railing against the current President is justified in my eyes if he isn't taking action to correct the problems or taking action which an individual feels will adversely effect the economy.

In the end, the "correct" things to do are really all guesses. I subscribe to the Austrian School of Economics so I believe that due to the massive "randomness" of human interaction with the market it is virtually impossible to predict how inserting non organic change into the market will effect said market. Instead, the system of regulation should be setup to allow freedom of choice at all levels but make sure no fraud is taking place. Adjusting interest rates at whim because a small body of people says it's the thing to do is absolute madness and in my opinion (and many others) this is one of the root problems with economic stability. Propping up failing companies, rising minimum wages, and other factors also play a major roll but I'll leave those to another post ;)

If you could show me an actual better president that could get in office fine. Please don't pick from that Republican pool, so what does that leave us with and what are the likihoods?

See and there you show your bias. I have no problem in electing a democrat if they will actually do a good job. Whats the list of the last few that have been running? :1orglaugh There ARE good dems, just none have run recently.

Dude, we had a good democrat in for eight years. He got a blowjob and everybody started voting Jesus. Then everything went to hell, literally. Think about it.

Actually I blame him a little for that. I would have done the same thing but I never would have voted for me to be president

oh, and mc cain would have been any better? :1orglaugh

yep :2 cents:

Hahhaah I didn't say I had the answers! But I do believe I have a firm grasp on the problems :) That, of course, may be debatable BUT I'm a firm believer in placing logic and reason above every and all emotions when it comes to defining legislation and laws.

In that respect I try and analyze the data sets presented to me without bias. For me personally, and being that I'm a Libertarian, I put individual freedom, liberties, and property rights above EVERYTHING else. This is a core value for me that I will never sway on.

REGARDLESS of the issue I apply only these core values. I don't care if it's the KKK wanting to hold a rally at the local park (which I would NOT want but it IS their right) or if it's raising minimum wage. I try and leave all personal attachments completely out of the picture. This is where I know I differ with a LOT of people, specifically those that lean to the left. For example in healthcare... I think cheaper healthcare and easy access for everyone is an AWESOME idea, I fucking LOVE it. However when I remove my own personal feelings from the issue what I'm left with is. How can it possibly be cheaper if you have to add a massive amount of overhead in order to regulate the healthcare industry... That really just means it's more expensive... ANY way you slice it. The money is moved around differently however so it makes it look cheaper. Before I get the "lower the cost by having everyone insured so ER visits by idiots aren't driving up the bills" speech. I'd like to say that I see that is an issue and something needs to be done... However something ELSE could be done to address that problem without putting in place more government regulation and more employees and more spending...

Hahha I know I just rambled on there but that's a little insight as to all of my posts in these little political debates. You can count on my stance never changing regardless of the content of the legislation ;)

put down that pipe dude... its already starting to come back in polls that there will not be a lot of turnover in november..

some shakeups, but not enough to change control in congress...

i never could figure out why you were so into republicans until i found out you like the cock..

then it all made sense... Republicans = closet HOMO's...

now, why don't you swing on down to the airport and play toe da tap in the mens bathroom with that other faggot barefootisies... :thumbsup









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Yeah, it's horribly fake. Shitty troll is shitty.

i think they broke up

Ok one more post here in reference to all the squabbling about Clinton vs Bush vs Obama...

There is a MAJOR key difference here...

Right now the house is controlled by democrats... So you've got a whole new ball game...

The president may green light shit but it's the house that's drafting this shit up folks. I realize the president COULD veto... but to veto a bill by your own party is political failure on a major level... one of the problems with parties... you can never go against the team or you're no longer a member of the team...

Him getting a BJ had nothing to do with it. Him lying under oath as a President is what fucked him.


You're clueless.

Where are you guys coming up with this shit?

No one is saying anyone was doing better or could have done better.

Stop being so fucking skewed and put your bias to the side.

AND STOP THE FUCKING CHARTS:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...044.html#chart

THERE'S ALL OF THEM IN ONE SPOT!

No......

Why do you link to something to try to prove it's legit and polls by themselves are illegit and subject to change by the moment. Dont' show me some fucking poll stats. Give me a fucking comic book to read. It means more LOL :1orglaugh

Not completely up-to-date.


For example, CBS is currently 42 approve, 50 disapprove.

Shitty troll is shitty.

Nothing better than resorting to circular reasoning when made to look stupid.