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V_RocKs 04-21-2010 06:53 PM

Well... If the investigation were for one of their clients, the DOJ would NOT freeze WMC accounts. They would send them a legal order to give the DOJ the funds in question. It's a constitutional thingy...

So the investigation is of WMC.

50...

GrouchyAdmin 04-21-2010 07:00 PM

We sure have a lot of legal eagles who prefer to flip burgers in this thread.

SeanLEE 04-21-2010 07:00 PM

Check bounced here... how do we go about recovering the money?
and to think we thought the 2257 dilemma was a big deal....

Bank outside of the US -- remember what happened to Internet Gambling-- the wolves are hungry!

Fat Panda 04-21-2010 07:01 PM

Can you say OH SHIT

Ethersync 04-21-2010 07:05 PM

If one of Webmaster Checks' clients is being investigated they likely are not able to provide any details to the public at all.

alias 04-21-2010 07:11 PM

So is this a complete list? http://whopaidme.com/search/Webmaster+Checks/

SomeCreep 04-21-2010 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmasterchecks (Post 17061762)
That is as much as I can comment right now on this. If you are a client and you have further questions please contact us. If you are an affiliate and you have issues with a payment please contact your sponsor program. Please don't try and cash any checks until further notice. We offer our sincere apologies for any inconvenience. Please know that we are working feverishly to get this issue resolved and our accounts unlocked.

Un-fucking-believable. The fact that you can not mention to us why the DOJ has shut you down and is investigating your company, coupled with your statement that we should not cash our checks for the time being is quite disconcerting. How long is "until further notice?" Are you saying you have no idea whether this issue will be resolved in a matter of days, weeks, or months?

jackknoff 04-21-2010 07:17 PM

"the Agent in charge of the case, took this action and then went on Vacation"

that statement doesn't make any sense to me... They would still have a point of contact regardless. Sounds like a b.s response, they most likely know why they were frozen and are either not speaking for legal or other reasons. It's probably the smartest thing to do. Hope it works out for them. Hate to see other affiliates do hard work and not get paid.

Spanx!
Jack

jcsike 04-21-2010 07:44 PM

ATLANTA ? The parent company of Brazzers has filed a motion to dismiss the forfeiture of $6.4 million the U.S. government is seeking after authorities traced numerous transactions involving the Canadian adult company and third-party credit card processors, including those in Israel.

http://********.com/read.php?ID=40145

Six more bank accounts connected to online gambling have been seized by the Maryland US Attorney's Office. These were all Wachovia Bank accounts held by a company called Forshay Enterprises, Inc., with authorities claiming the monies are related to money laundering activity. Thus far, 15 accounts have been seized in connection to this ongoing investigation. A company called Electracash, Inc. had its accounts seized in the last couple of weeks as well. Accounts tied to processors owned by Edward Courdy and Michael Garone were targeted last year.

http://www.gambling911.com/gambling-...ng-092409.html

WASHINGTON - An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/31192062/


lots of gambling busts revcently, my take on this is that Brazzers (or some other client) tried sneaking in gambling proceeds through webmasterchecks, hopefully all they have to show is that they were not aware, they do not accept gambling, and thats it

Agent 488 04-21-2010 07:44 PM

http://www.igorloveskaren.com/Oct30-4.jpg

count of monte cristo 04-21-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 17061957)
Well... If the investigation were for one of their clients, the DOJ would NOT freeze WMC accounts. They would send them a legal order to give the DOJ the funds in question. It's a constitutional thingy...
So the investigation is of WMC.

i disagree, i think with these kind of things, it becomes political, shoot first, ask questions later. it just sucks when your an innocent party affected by that machine

GrouchyAdmin 04-21-2010 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by count of monte cristo (Post 17062106)
i disagree, i think with these kind of things, it becomes political, shoot first, ask questions later. it just sucks when your an innocent party affected by that machine

...then you get shit on all over by the people who you've served faithfully for years.

Agent 488 04-21-2010 08:09 PM

the government is broke and are seizing any money they can on any technicality. fuck america.

Agent 488 04-21-2010 08:10 PM

not that complex. the government is broke and seizing all major assets that aren't politically connected.

good morning america.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 17062074)
ATLANTA ? The parent company of Brazzers has filed a motion to dismiss the forfeiture of $6.4 million the U.S. government is seeking after authorities traced numerous transactions involving the Canadian adult company and third-party credit card processors, including those in Israel.

http://********.com/read.php?ID=40145

Six more bank accounts connected to online gambling have been seized by the Maryland US Attorney's Office. These were all Wachovia Bank accounts held by a company called Forshay Enterprises, Inc., with authorities claiming the monies are related to money laundering activity. Thus far, 15 accounts have been seized in connection to this ongoing investigation. A company called Electracash, Inc. had its accounts seized in the last couple of weeks as well. Accounts tied to processors owned by Edward Courdy and Michael Garone were targeted last year.

http://www.gambling911.com/gambling-...ng-092409.html

WASHINGTON - An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/31192062/


lots of gambling busts revcently, my take on this is that Brazzers (or some other client) tried sneaking in gambling proceeds through webmasterchecks, hopefully all they have to show is that they were not aware, they do not accept gambling, and thats it


Redfield 04-21-2010 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 17061974)
Check bounced here... how do we go about recovering the money?
and to think we thought the 2257 dilemma was a big deal....

Bank outside of the US -- remember what happened to Internet Gambling-- the wolves are hungry!

email them, they will direct you what to do

good luck, i hope everyone gets their funds back and soon

alias 04-21-2010 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17062146)
fuck america.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

BIGTYMER 04-21-2010 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17062146)
the government is broke and are seizing any money they can on any technicality. fuck america.

dude they make they money. if they need more, they make more.

mmcfadden 04-21-2010 08:17 PM

this thread sucks... sorry to hear everybody's money is gone. don't hold your breath... checks will not be going through anytime in the foreseeable future :(

Agent 488 04-21-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17062165)
dude they make they money. if they need more, they make more.

if it was that simple just abolish taxes and print money.

not that simple.

Sausage 04-21-2010 08:19 PM

Interesting.

Having been around for a while, and seen many statements like this which generally say very little apart from "we are sorry we didn't let you know earlier when we found out, but we are letting you know now" .... and seeing how things ended for those companies, I hope this one goes against the trend for you guys who use them/get paid by them.

Though having been fucked over so many times, I can't help but get this urge to lube up...

GrouchyAdmin 04-21-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17062172)
if it was that simple just abolish taxes and print money.

not that simple.

After all, we still have to pay back the Chinese.

izzynew 04-21-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17061997)
So is this a complete list? (not enough posts to re-post url)

Awww shit! Got a few on that list.
And is that all of them?

Agent 488 04-21-2010 08:22 PM

yeah they're gone. just hope the sponsors make good with their own reserves. a few will go down.

alias 04-21-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by izzynew (Post 17062184)
Awww shit! Got a few on that list.
And is that all of them?

Dunno man, agent 488 posted that. Only hit like 2 and one [torbe] pays me in an alternate way.

wdsguy 04-21-2010 08:28 PM

damn that sux

famous 04-21-2010 08:33 PM

me and you both i just deposited 10 checks of thiers on Tuesday

gleem 04-21-2010 08:51 PM

ha, so the accounts are gone, the DOJ just put WC out of biz permanently (who's gonna use them or anyone else like em after this mess) guess I should post my affiliate link to quickbooks & intuit check ordering service since all the their former clients are going to need it.

DOJ aint givin' money back, they are just firing up the pirate ship and building up the treasure chest to go after the bigger fish after gobbling up the easy shit no one will give a shit about.

jcsike 04-21-2010 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 17062250)
ha, so the accounts are gone, the DOJ just put WC out of biz permanently (who's gonna use them or anyone else like em after this mess) guess I should post my affiliate link to quickbooks & intuit check ordering service since all the their former clients are going to need it.

DOJ aint givin' money back, they are just firing up the pirate ship and building up the treasure chest to go after the bigger fish after gobbling up the easy shit no one will give a shit about.

i bet they can get the money back, they seem like they have their ducks in a row, if something bad happens to them, ill be very disappointed in this country. from their website, assuming its all true

We are federally registered, licensed, bonded, insured

I am not involved in any activity in contravention of the Anti-money laundering (AML), Bank Secrecy Act (BSA), USA Patriot Act or are on nor the Office of Foreign Assets Control's Specially Designated Nationals list. I understand Webmasterchecks will vigorously review my account and other available information to validate this. Please see our Acceptable Use Policy for more details.

Acceptable Use Policy.

Webmasterchecks follows all applicable Government Rules and Regulations including, but not limited to:
?Know-Your-Customer
?Bank Secrecy Act
?Anti-Money Laundering
?Patriot Act
?Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC)
The Company regularly reviews its clients to ensure they are identified and this is enforced through a rigorous know your customer (KYC) policy. Clients may not be on any list of known fraudsters, terrorists or money launderers, nor the Office of Foreign Assets Control's Specially Designated Nationals list, nor lists from third party vendors that track links between persons regarded as high-risk owing to negative reports in the media about them or in public records.

We will not process for anything related to gambling, or for any business website running, participating, or advertising acts allowing the subscriber to bet or gamble on an uncertain outcome, or to play a game of chance for stakes.

We will not conduct business with any entity that is engaged, conducting or promoting illegal activities of any kind. We reserve the right to refuse to conduct business with any business for any reason.

RP Fade 04-21-2010 09:08 PM

it'll be interesting to see how sponsor payouts will be affected by this in 10 days or so..

gleem 04-21-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 17062281)
i bet they can get the money back, they seem like they have their ducks in a row, if something bad happens to them, ill be very disappointed in this country. from their website, assuming its all true

Therein lies the fallacy of your point.

Kinda like saying all the GF/EXGF sponsors with 13 year olds on the tour & FHGs and ripped sologirl content is legit cause they posted a 2257 on the site saying everyone is over 18 and the content is theirs.

LOFL!


Don't get me wrong, I hope it's true, but from the insider gossip I'm hearing... well...

jcsike 04-21-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 17062250)
ha, so the accounts are gone, the DOJ just put WC out of biz permanently (who's gonna use them or anyone else like em after this mess) guess I should post my affiliate link to quickbooks & intuit check ordering service since all the their former clients are going to need it.

DOJ aint givin' money back, they are just firing up the pirate ship and building up the treasure chest to go after the bigger fish after gobbling up the easy shit no one will give a shit about.

i bet they can get the money back, they seem like they have their ducks in a row, if something bad happens to them, ill be very disappointed in this country. from their website, assuming its all true

We are federally registered, licensed, bonded, insured

I am not involved in any activity in contravention of the Anti-money laundering (AML), Bank Secrecy Act (BSA), USA Patriot Act or are on nor the Office of Foreign Assets Control's Specially Designated Nationals list. I understand Webmasterchecks will vigorously review my account and other available information to validate this. Please see our Acceptable Use Policy for more details.

Acceptable Use Policy.

Webmasterchecks follows all applicable Government Rules and Regulations including, but not limited to:
?Know-Your-Customer
?Bank Secrecy Act
?Anti-Money Laundering
?Patriot Act
?Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC)
The Company regularly reviews its clients to ensure they are identified and this is enforced through a rigorous know your customer (KYC) policy. Clients may not be on any list of known fraudsters, terrorists or money launderers, nor the Office of Foreign Assets Control's Specially Designated Nationals list, nor lists from third party vendors that track links between persons regarded as high-risk owing to negative reports in the media about them or in public records.

We will not process for anything related to gambling, or for any business website running, participating, or advertising acts allowing the subscriber to bet or gamble on an uncertain outcome, or to play a game of chance for stakes.

We will not conduct business with any entity that is engaged, conducting or promoting illegal activities of any kind. We reserve the right to refuse to conduct business with any business for any reason.

jcsike 04-21-2010 09:29 PM

shit, double post

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 17062301)
Therein lies the fallacy of your point.

Kinda like saying all the GF/EXGF sponsors with 13 year olds on the tour & FHGs and ripped sologirl content is legit cause they posted a 2257 on the site saying everyone is over 18 and the content is theirs.

your right :) if they cant back up what they say on the site, its a problem

TrainWreckContent 04-21-2010 11:56 PM

damn i hope you get your stuff resolved

sojproductions 04-22-2010 12:06 AM

1 person handling it who has 'gone on vacation'... bs, your handling enough money for someone else to get off their fat arse and get it resolved... you can't be bound by 1 person and their vacation, i dont buy it

andrej_NDC 04-22-2010 12:10 AM

This sucks! WTF is going on lately?

Grisey 04-22-2010 12:30 AM

Gossipkings.com (and i assume amakings as its the same ppl )dump webmasterchecks, from there affiliate email they just sent

"Moving forward we will be handling all webmaster payments in-house to avoid something like this happening again"

First of many ?

andrej_NDC 04-22-2010 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grisey (Post 17062552)
Gossipkings.com (and i assume amakings as its the same ppl )dump webmasterchecks, from there affiliate email they just sent

"Moving forward we will be handling all webmaster payments in-house to avoid something like this happening again"

First of many ?

Can you post the whole email here?

stever 04-22-2010 12:41 AM

1 word
disaster

TheDA 04-22-2010 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grisey (Post 17062552)
Gossipkings.com (and i assume amakings as its the same ppl )dump webmasterchecks, from there affiliate email they just sent

"Moving forward we will be handling all webmaster payments in-house to avoid something like this happening again"

First of many ?

I think there's going to be a few more like that.

DWB 04-22-2010 01:45 AM

I know Webmaster Checks is a solid company but if you lay with dogs (Brazzers), you're gonna get fleas and possibly bitten. :2 cents:

Hope you guys can work it out soon. Good luck.

Sabby 04-22-2010 01:48 AM

is this a tax audit?


Sabby:)

Grisey 04-22-2010 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17062557)
Can you post the whole email here?

As predicted this is amakings email, which is the same as gossipkings

Wayne,

As you may have heard WebmasterChecks.com is reporting a problem with ?bank accounts being frozen by the Department of Justice? (http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/964711-webmasterchecks-statement.html). As we used their service to pay our webmasters via checks, ePassporte, and wire transfers this problem will cause a delay in your most recent earnings. DELAY, not LOSS. We had already sent full payment to WebmasterChecks.com so now we have to move money around from our cash reserves so that we can directly issue payments where necessary (details below). We plan to have all outstanding webmaster accounts settled by 4/30/2010. This will ONLY affect the most recent webmaster payments and we fully expect to be back on our regular schedule by the next pay period. Moving forward we will be handling all webmaster payments in-house to avoid something like this happening again.

For ePassporte payments: We?ve been told by WebmasterChecks.com that our money was already sent to ePassporte so those payments should be released in the next 48 hours. If this does not happen we will be issuing payments from our new Business ePassporte account as soon as they post the funds we have already sent to load the account which should be by 4/30/2010.

For wire transfers: As soon as we have moved funds to the appropriate accounts we will be issuing wires directly to webmasters. We expect to have all wires sent by 4/30/2010 but please do keep in mind some international wires do take more time to hit.

For checks: If you have ANY checks from us sent from WebmasterChecks.com DO NOT CASH THEM. Shortly we will be sending new checks ourselves for all payments for the latest pay period and we expect to have all those in the mail by 4/30/2010.

We apologize for this unforeseeable inconvenience but please understand we are personally covering double our normal webmaster payouts (since payment was already sent to WebmasterChecks.com) to be SURE you get paid! Fortunately you choose to work with a stable company that maintains necessary cash reserves for emergencies like this. We assure you this will not happen again as from today on we will be doing all webmaster payments ourselves! If you have any questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact us at [email protected]!

Chosen 04-22-2010 04:40 AM

Good luck Webmasterchecks :thumbsup

seeandsee 04-22-2010 04:42 AM

i already see some late payments, even via epass

Zee 04-22-2010 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riddler (Post 17061891)
how much is brazzers paying you guys to be quiet?

:2 cents::thumbsup:)

How would an interested party find out which proggy's use WC for their payments?

BVF 04-22-2010 05:06 AM

Last webmaster check I deposited was around Easter...Thank God I got it in the nick of time...I can say that as of right now, I have never had a sponsor check bounce on me... **knocking on my wooden desk**

kmanrox 04-22-2010 05:14 AM

so does this affect ppl getting paid via epass and wires too or?

huda 04-22-2010 05:18 AM

Hope this is over soon, good luck guys and thanks for getting in touch with me!
Webmasterchecks has always been professional and a great partner to work with.

Barefootsies 04-22-2010 05:24 AM

Received an email from Saphic this morning. Appears to be effecting multiple adult BROgrams all at once. Not just Brazzzers.

Barefootsies 04-22-2010 05:25 AM

A Hundie Sweet Deals.
:pimp

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