An agent freezes your account and goes on vacation? Give me a break.

[QUOTE=alias;17061997]So is this a complete list?

Thank you Alias. That's what I was looking for I'll add it to my archiveys. LOL

Department of Justice has frozen your accounts?

Fuck you, pay me!

I'd like to know that as well.

so who would be the bigger fish? ccbill?

DOJ doesnt freeze bank accounts unless they are sure they have it all figured out. another bloody mess in the 2010 porno dead pool. more to follow im sure. get out while u can.

So anyone know of an alternate to webmaster checks?

The Department of Justice works hand in hand with the IRS. Many reasons for closing down an account, Money Laundering is the biggest reason especially with what has happened in Georgia with the DOJ seizing 6.7 million of a big programs money. Second , they issue 1099 to people and if they continued to issue checks to the same people after receiving a statement from the IRS that those clients are delinquent in paying their taxes they will also intervene. I know from the amount of 1099 misc employment statements that I get back that many talent do not pay taxes or even report them. This year I sent out 160 of them and received back approximately 50% of them back. Many of these talents are connected to their own websites that get paid thru Webmaster checks and probably ignore the nice letter from the IRS. Amazingly enough this year not one talent have called to find out where there 1099 is. This year I received the nicest one from the IRS that a talent owes $151,950 in taxes for the years 2007 and 2008. I can no longer issue a check to that person. Maybe they want to work free but when have you ever heard of talent working free.

well hope they get it fixed...for their sake...and the sake of affiliates who need payments from them

i dont see it as being a huge deal to most companies...they already prepare their payouts in a format...they can just as easily pass it on direct to epasporte..and just hire someone to cut checks

bump in the road...not the end of the road.

as far as the govt agent going on vacation

well..i have been in a similar situation....while waiting for my wifes PR card, we were at 2.5 years into the process...and i had started calling daily....then finally i got hold of a person...he told me he would handle it and not to worry...but he was going on vacation the next day....but he said someone else was going to handle this...and indeed it was.

so i suspect there is another agent available to discuss this with webmaster checks

hope they get it solved quickly

This type of thing used to happen from time to time in the early days of adult.

I remember a scarey time back in like 99 or 2000 when Epoch actually wasnt able to cut checks for awhile- it eventually got resolved, but it was a nail biter for sure.

The thing to remember here is not to jump to any conclusions- it might be an IRS thing, it might be some big nasty DOJ/laundering/gambling fiasco, or it might just be some kind of fuckup that will get resolved.

I've always found it odd that a large company would want to rely on some 3rd party to do their checks when something like this could happen and turn everything upside down on them overnight... but thats me. You can hire one or two people to cut checks on a frikkin laser printer every 2 weeks.. why take a risk?

In the long run, the guys really on the hook here are the sponsors- they sent their money to webmaster checks (which may very well not have done anything wrong to their knowledge) and here comes the DOJ and everything is in the abyss.

The sponsors now have to claw their way out of the mess, and the poor guys at webmaster checks (giving them the benefit of the doubt here, as we should until we know more) have just had their business relationships jeopardized.

I hate to see things like this happen, but I've seen it go both ways- so its not necessarily a stick in the eye, but its too early to tell. I guess this will be a test of the sponsors to see who can come through. But do keep in mind they didnt see it coming either, and its a total pain in their ass as well.

This kind of thing has been in the business since day one- sucks to hear its still happening, but honestly it happens alot less often these days than it did back in the beginning.

Somebody did something wrong somewhere for this to happen, but its too early yet to find out what and why for sure- nothing much to do except hope your sponsor can take care of you in the short term until the dust settles.

Assuming we buy this for a minute, when does Fox Mulder get back from vacation? Did they give any indication?

I always wanted to bone Scully. :winkwink:

lol ya a wire transfer of the balance out to an offshore account would produce the same result as a DOJ "seizure" - hundreds of bounced checks.

guess we'll know the story if/when people get paid. its not like this shitty little industry has investigative reporters.

I was referring to Mulder conveniently going on vacation.

I have no doubt in my mind that they have had all their funds seized due to one of their clients being investigated :)

If the money passes through WMC's accounts which I assume It does? That would be a problem.

I'll get Darrah right on it. :1orglaugh

I think this whole thing is just the another attack from the Gov to disrupt studios. Do you see them going after the tubes running CP? Have you seen them try to enforce any rules on the people trying to put all of you out of work?

The whole thing is a joke, and IMO just the gov trying to kill of what few of you remain in anyway they can

how could you have no doubt unless u have inside info? if one of their clients is being investigated then its some biller's client too. i didnt see a post about ccbill's or epoch's accounts being frozen.

i dont see the logic. everybody in this business is intertwined.

I don't think it has anything to do with brazzers.

Sigh I got two returned Webmaster checks today :( I thought I was in the clear because I had deposited them a week prior to the shit hitting the fan. Sent the sponsors in question an email and I am awaiting their reply.

That is a very untrue statement. There are many ways to bill without either of those 2 businesses. Further if you were to do something shady it would not be on CCBill or Epass it would be on a foreign merchant account. Just look at history to prove what I am saying.

anyone know what to do with a prettyincash webmastercheck? I just received it today

wipe your ass with it

They've told me to just hold onto it for now.

I'll say it again, how long until someone attempts to open up an alternative?

There already are alternatives. Chexx I believe is still in operation and a new one opened up a couple weeks back, I think it's called iPayAffiliates, or something like that.

Four checks from them bounced today, I am pretty sure the sponsor will make good on it but what a pain in the ass.

Yep.

ipayaffiliates.com

so what is the catch?? what happened exactly?? What law they broke, if any?

the only good thing about all this is that you can see how many people still work in adult.. people who never enter the forum or never post and lurk around, but now they jump all together and show up.

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I think things for the most part will work out, only the smaller studios might have trouble making this up too their affiliates.

Rumors are flying around..... All I know is there is a client of WMC being investigated and they froze their accounts by proxy...

I know who I am betting on right now, and I am sure people might forgive WMC if this is handled properly as the facts come out.

Such fucking bullshit.......

if you want something done right, do it yourself, don't rely on others to cut the checks for you.

Brazzers investigation ripple effect.

Yeah, I got a bounced check from them this week. Wish I had known sooner, but what can you do. Luckily it was only one check that I tried to deposit, and it was from a sponsor I don't push that hard so it wasn't big, my condolences to those of you who have been affected in bigger ways. Let's hope this works out soon!

:2 cents:

We wanted to update you on the banking situation you were made aware of earlier this week. Our attorney was able to get hold of and have a conversation with Baltimore Assistant US Attorney General Richard Kay earlier this afternoon. He made it clear that they discovered one of our clients had proceeded to send payments for transactions that originated on gambling websites. As you should know, we do not process for gambling transactions and have very stringent processes and policies to help ensure such.

As said previously, we are certain our business has all necessary licenses and registrations, has followed all rules and regulations to the best of our ability, and we expect to have a favorable resolution to this as soon as Mr. Kay has a chance to review our due diligence policies and procedures early next week. This is very good news!

I wonder which client why sneaking in gaming payments.

:thumbsup

Keep the good news coming.

qgood to know, late paymentssssssssssss

Most the companies using Webmaster Checks are not US-based. It can actually be a huge pain in the ass to pay affiliates using such an antiquated and primarily american system such as checks.

good luck my man !!

I am too late for a sig spot?

Nope. The party is just getting started.

So this explains it somewhat... :Oh crap



Where did you hear this?

On a side note, that Attorney General's office is about 45-50 minutes from me. Should go give him a swift kick in the ass!

a casino Tube!

very nice :1orglaugh

It's just a whitelabel, they are an affiliate.

One Fitty Statements:thumbsup