Where's Ryan Leaf hanging out these days?

lol, I just saw something on the news about him trying to turn over a new leaf. I know he was addicted to pain killers for a long time.

That's a great point :thumbsup

Probably his best chance is with a team that liked Miami's success with the wildcat offense and wanted to go in that direction.

Since 1980, there have been 57 Pro-Bowl QB's drafted (Steve Young & Bernie Kosar were selected in the 1st-round of the supplemental draft in 1984 and 1985, respectively)

Excluding Young & Kosar,

25 (45.45%) were drafted in the 1st round.
7 (12.72%) were drafted in the 2nd round.
6 (10.90%) were drafted in the 3rd round.
2 (3.636%) were drafted in the 4th round.
1 (1.818%) was drafted in the 5th round.
7 (12.72%) were drafted in the 6th round.
1 (1.818%) was drafted in the 7th round.
3 (5.454%) were drafted in the 8th round.
1 (1.818%) was drafted in the 9th round.
1 (1.818%) was in the 10th round.
1 (1.818%) was in the 11th round.

In that time, there have been 64 QB's selected in the first round, so you have a 39% chance of going to at least 1 Pro-Bowl if you're chosen there.

The best multi-year Pro-Bowl QB's not selected in Round 1 have been:

Drew Brees - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 2001, Round 2, pick 32 (2nd QB taken)
Marc Bulger - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 2000, Round 6, pick 168 (6th QB taken)
Tom Brady - (5 Pro-Bowls), drafted 2000, Round 6, pick 199 (7th QB taken)
Matt Hasselbeck - (3 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1998, Round 6, pick 187 (7th QB taken)
Mark Brunell - (3 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1993, Round 5, pick 118 (4th QB taken)
Trent Green - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1993, Round 8, pick 222 (8th QB taken)
Brad Johnson - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1992, Round 9, pick 227 (13th QB taken)
Brett Favre - (11 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1991, Round 2, pick 33 (3rd QB taken)
Chris Chandler - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1988, Round 3, pick 76 (2nd QB taken)
Rich Gannon - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1987, Round 4, pick 98 (7th QB taken)
Mark Rypien - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1986, Round 6, pick 146 (8th QB taken)
Randall Cunningham - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1985, Round 2, pick 37 (1st QB taken)
Boomer Esiason - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1984, Round 2, pick 38 (1st QB taken)
Neil Lomax - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1981, Round 2, Pick 33 (2nd QB taken)

I must have missed something. How many of these guys have won superbowls? cause getting trip to the pro bowl isn't someone I'd be picking in the draft.

P.S how many quarterbacks won Superbowls that weren't first round picks? I think that would be a better way of looking at things.

I would love to tell you, but the site I use for those stats has suddenly got itself fuggered from Jets fans I'm guessing to prepare themselves for the disappointment that's coming their way.

I don't know why you would classify superbowl wins as a better barometer than the pro-bowl. A lot of good QBs have been on really crappy teams. You can't fault the QB for not wining the superbowl because his supporting cast is wretched.

Neither Archie Manning or Dan Marino have won super bowls.

Why would I classify Superbowl Wins as better than Pro-bowl (not even wins but selections)? I have no clue but I know who never to listen to about football again, thank you very much!!!

P.S the probowl is such a joke the players try to find reasons not to partake in in it, just for reference.

almost half the superbowls won have been by first round picks :2 cents:

And the #1 pick in the 2010 NFL Draft is........

That's the last I had heard.

Fiddy Sweet Deals.
:pimp

Sig.

Like who? Besides Peyton Manning who basically had to wait until the Patriots were at their lowest moment and then couldn't beat the Saints

Joe Namath - Super Bowl III
Bob Griese - Super Bowl VII and VIII
Terry Bradshaw - Super Bowls IX, X, XII, and XIII
Jim Plunkett - Super Bowls XV and XVIII
Jim McMahon - Super Bowl XX
Phil Simms - Super Bowl XXI
Doug Williams - Super Bowl XXII
Troy Aikman - Super Bowls XXVII, XXVIII, and
Steve Young - Super Bowl XXIX
John Elway - Super Bowls XXXII and XXXIII
Trent Dilfer - Super Bowl XXXV
Ben Roethlisberger - Super Bowl XL
Peyton Manning - Super Bowl XLI

Troy Aikman 1989 #1 player chosen didn't have to bad a QB career.


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Just went to the Denver Broncos. 25th.

That's very respectable considering all the scrutiny placed on him :thumbsup

I hope he is able to adapt and be productive in the NFL.

And for my next trick....

Did anyone else hear that guy interviewing Tebow call him the greatest college player ever at any position.

He should have come to this thread first so he could get his facts straight :upsidedow

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Congrats to Timmy for pulling it off in the 1st round. Now lets see who matures and succeeds the best in the NFL the #1 pick or the 25th? My bet is the Gator :2 cents:

thats pretty funny! :1orglaugh

Maybe a stretch....but one of the best without a doubt...



...Herchel Walker was kinda good too......

On the other hand my Bucs won a SB with a QB chosen in the 9th round( which doesn't exist anymore by the way ). Kurt Warner was never drafted. Brett Favre was a 2nd round pick. Drew Brees was 2nd round pick. Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. #199 to be exact. Yes 198 players were taken BEFORE Tom Brady.

QBs taken before Tom Brady in the 2000 NFL draft.

1 18 Chad Pennington Marshall New York Jets
3 65 Giovanni Carmazzi Hofstra San Francisco 49ers
3 75 Chris Redman Louisville Baltimore Ravens
5 163 Tee Martin Tennessee Pittsburgh Steelers
6 168 Marc Bulger West Virginia New Orleans Saints
6 183 Spergon Wynn Texas State Cleveland Browns

I'm not sure why the Broncos picked him up. They have their QB bench already. Anyway, he might turn out into another Brady. Looks like a few years in development before he gets his chance to break out.

Ha ha, love to see the haters with their jaws on the floor. Good for you Tebow:thumbsup

That's not fifty percent of bowls though. More guys. I didn't know bradshaw was a first rounder and forgot plunket even won those bowls. I remember him from the patriots lol

6 of the last 11 Super Bowl winning QBs were not 1st rounders. Of the 22 starting QBs in the last 11 super bowls 11 were not 1st rounders.

An article in this morning's sports page went on about how Jacksonville will be kicking themselves if Tebow turns out to be successful and how they will at least get one sellout because of him when the Broncos play the Jags in this season's opener. It's unlikely he will play but one can hope.

So much was put into his throwing mechanics and how it won't work in the NFL but at least the Broncos had the foresight to recognize that he has the physical size and ability and most importantly the willingness to adapt and change whatever is asked of him in order to be productive. I believe his desire and work ethic will make him a winner in the NFL.

Even more ironic since the jags severely reached on thier 1st round pick.

and the Bills take a small running back who in the NFL will be pretty much a glorified kick returner - a team that has no QB, almost no offensive line, no pass rush whatsoever and with the 9th pick take that. :helpme

Claussen and McCoy still out there

I've been a Miami Dolphins fan for almost as long as they've been in the league.

The Miami - Buffalo rivalry was one of the best in the NFL :thumbsup

( sigh ) Those were the good old days.

There was some distant rumor last year about the JAGS being one of those teams that were considering relocating to LA (Los Angeles). Never heard anything else about it though. I guess Jacksonville has a pretty small media market

hey hey hey, my 9ers may have passed on Brady, but at least we got Smith with the number one 5 years later, cause...thats...worked...so...well...:(

I said ALMOST half, some to those qb's won multiple sbs

If anybody need processings, Rodrigo is here!

Even if they have done that, they should have, and most of them still end up being busts. I think you're better off building your defense of offensive lines first and then playing around with quarterbacks. Quarterbacks are finicky cause some are awesome with the right coach and system (i.e Matt Casell) but not so good when they are off on their own having to figure out a new game plan)! That and corner back has to be the toughest positions coming out of college. Easiest has to be running back since it's mostly natural talent and you can learn the plays as your grow.

They just said on my local news that Tebow is expected to sign a five year contract with Denver for $30 million plus incentives based on performance.

Not bad for a guy some projected to go 3rd or 4th round and maybe not even play at the QB position :winkwink:

Tebow threw a couple nice passes in tonight's preseason game AND he scored
his first NFL touchdown running it in on the last play of the game. A defender tried to stop him at the goal line and Tebow
put his head down and did what he does best. The two collided. Tebow got up and the defender did not. :)

Looks like he'll be the #2 Quarterback and should get some playing time this regular season.

Not a bad start for a guy many were saying wouldn't even get drafted.