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AaronM 04-27-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17078872)
what happens in vegas, stays in vegas I guess... call derrk up and give him the good news :)


WTF is that supposed to mean?

NaughtyRob 04-27-2010 10:23 AM

In the US the demise of the magazines happened in like 2005. :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17078686)
I have noticed a lot of content shooters getting out of the game here in Eastern Europe. Most just can't find the work like they used to and the demise of the magazines. Agents are finding it tough as well.


Jay-Rock 04-27-2010 11:15 AM

I made over 10k this month :2 cents: Im shooting almost every day right now :) I have over 5 k in bills and my roomate moved out so I have no choice but to hustle. I laugh when I hear shooters say they have no reason to go to the shows. 2 words my friends. SPEED NETWORKING. Last summer was a constant struggle to make the 5k a month. I guess being in LA over a year is finally paying off for me.

digitaldivas 04-27-2010 11:57 AM

I love and miss L.A. I don't even call it L.A. anymore, I call it "Candyland"

DWB 04-27-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 17079400)
I have over 5 k in bills

That's a hefty monthly bill.

Jay-Rock 04-27-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17080171)
That's a hefty monthly bill.

2k of that goes to student loans and the fucking IRS!

iguess 04-27-2010 05:14 PM

I mean both.. I guess someone shooting exclusive content for they're paysite of a girl you can't find nowhere like karisweets would make a gwap.

But both, produce for themselves and others...


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Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 17077669)
What exactly do you mean by Content Shooter, someone that only produces for others? As Robbie mentioned there's producers that make that or much more producing for themselves.


See sig.


Loch 04-27-2010 05:16 PM

yall ? seriously? LMAO

Jim_Gunn 04-27-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 17079400)
. I laugh when I hear shooters say they have no reason to go to the shows. 2 words my friends. SPEED NETWORKING.

Don't encourage them, Jay, lol. :2 cents:

Bman 04-27-2010 07:06 PM

Shooting hardcore shouldnt be that tough to make $10k...

alias 04-27-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 17078834)
That's not the same story I've been getting. I've been booking LA agency girls at discounted rates for the last 6 months.

Guess it is like anything else, all about the connections.

NaughtyRob 04-27-2010 07:37 PM

If you have been established a while correct... however to PROFIT 10K you need to make a fuckload more than that.

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Originally Posted by Bman (Post 17081022)
Shooting hardcore shouldnt be that tough to make $10k...


AaronM 04-27-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 17081046)
Guess it is like anything else, all about the connections.


My guess is that Brian is WAY more connect with agencies than I am.

Bman 04-27-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GetNaughty (Post 17081068)
If you have been established a while correct... however to PROFIT 10K you need to make a fuckload more than that.

yeah....
i know where I am there is no one shooting anymore. there use to be 8 to 10 of shooting pretty consitently. Thats all gone. As more of the shooters leave slowly the prices will go up. But not for another year, year and a half...

Paul Markham 04-28-2010 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17078691)
They failed to "adapt" superman sire.
:2 cents:

They adapted out of Adult.

Some turned to shooting weddings as it was more profitable. One travels around Europe shooting hotels and beaches for travel magazines and brochures.

Paul Markham 04-28-2010 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GetNaughty (Post 17079276)
In the US the demise of the magazines happened in like 2005. :2 cents:

It certainly started in 2005 but here in the UK it was still good then.

MaDalton 04-28-2010 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GetNaughty (Post 17081068)
If you have been established a while correct... however to PROFIT 10K you need to make a fuckload more than that.

yeah - "making" $10k means to me personal income after all costs - and i heavily doubt that there are many that do that

Jay-Rock 04-28-2010 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17081540)
They adapted out of Adult.

Some turned to shooting weddings as it was more profitable. One travels around Europe shooting hotels and beaches for travel magazines and brochures.

I use to make $2k off of one wedding before porn and I was doing a few a month without even advertising. I got into porn because I love porn I hated shooting weddings but I could probably make more doing weddings if I had built my name up as a wedding photographer. I don't blame them for switching they are in it for the money.:2 cents:

Plus its hard to have a real relationship or date anyone when you shoot porn so you have to be willing to date swingers type chics or straight up whores which I have learned from experience.

Bman 04-29-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 17082313)
I use to make $2k off of one wedding before porn and I was doing a few a month without even advertising. I got into porn because I love porn I hated shooting weddings but I could probably make more doing weddings if I had built my name up as a wedding photographer. I don't blame them for switching they are in it for the money.:2 cents:

Plus its hard to have a real relationship or date anyone when you shoot porn so you have to be willing to date swingers type chics or straight up whores which I have learned from experience.

And really thats the thing... I dont care how you slice it the future is gonna be slim pickens in this Industry for Content Providers.

Dont fool yourself it is always about the money.

Robbie 04-29-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 17082313)
willing to date swingers type chics or straight up whores which I have learned from experience.

HELL YES! That's the only kind of woman who can keep me from being bored silly!

Jay-Rock 04-30-2010 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17087781)
HELL YES! That's the only kind of woman who can keep me from being bored silly!

You and me both bro that is why I love this biz and wont EVER do weddings again LOL!

iguess 04-30-2010 05:23 PM

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nikki99 04-30-2010 08:54 PM

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Paul Markham 05-01-2010 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 17082313)
I use to make $2k off of one wedding before porn and I was doing a few a month without even advertising. I got into porn because I love porn I hated shooting weddings but I could probably make more doing weddings if I had built my name up as a wedding photographer. I don't blame them for switching they are in it for the money.:2 cents:

Plus its hard to have a real relationship or date anyone when you shoot porn so you have to be willing to date swingers type chics or straight up whores which I have learned from experience.

Shooting weddings can be tough but from my nieces wedding in the UK I was shocked at what they were charging for a days work. Love it or hate it, it puts food on the table.

I would of agreed with you about the girls you meet in the biz. Until I met Eva, got lucky there. Very lucky.

The shame is there are some excellent shooters going to waste while people buy content at a price that simply is not good enough.

www.dave-wells.co.uk a friend from the old days.

Loch 05-01-2010 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17092642)
Shooting weddings can be tough but from my nieces wedding in the UK I was shocked at what they were charging for a days work. Love it or hate it, it puts food on the table.

I would of agreed with you about the girls you meet in the biz. Until I met Eva, got lucky there. Very lucky.

The shame is there are some excellent shooters going to waste while people buy content at a price that simply is not good enough.

www.dave-wells.co.uk a friend from the old days.

People buy content for different purposes and in all different ranges.
Providers only having one range or price level are the ones that have a great name but drive a shitty car and can hardly afford a dinner out.

And if you have good loyal clients that trust you quality matters way less, what does matter though is that they know you will deliver and deliver on time every time....something that takes years to master.
No cheap shooter will EVER take that client from you

This goes for exclusive / non exclusive / semi exclusive

One example would be that through the resession we have more than doubled our business, i suspect that a big part of the reason is that people dont fuck around with their cash anymore....they want to know that when they pay for goods they will arrive.

MaDalton 05-01-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Loch (Post 17092660)
People buy content for different purposes and in all different ranges.
Providers only having one range or price level are the ones that have a great name but drive a shitty car and can hardly afford a dinner out.

And if you have good loyal clients that trust you quality matters way less, what does matter though is that they know you will deliver and deliver on time every time....something that takes years to master.
No cheap shooter will EVER take that client from you

This goes for exclusive / non exclusive / semi exclusive

One example would be that through the resession we have more than doubled our business, i suspect that a big part of the reason is that people dont fuck around with their cash anymore....they want to know that when they pay for goods they will arrive.


this April was our best month for non-exclusive sales since we started in 2003 :2 cents:


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