I paid a designer today with no invoice. I will ask for an invoice, again... and if I don't get one, I will make one.

I then have the option to continue my work with that person or not... of course I will, not having an invoice isn't the end of the world when you have the documented emails on the job.

Scam confirmed. Content theft too. Damn.

If you can't pay said person, it's easier to just make up some sort of excuse and deflect the "issue" back on him. :1orglaugh

I'm not asking for the logistics behind an invoice... I'm asking why he WOULDN'T send one (other than that he apparently isn't able to get in contact with you) ...

Content theft too? Wow just fucking wow

Abbie can confirm that. She is a mod there.

I am simply going to get the docs from the other mods, and in the AM referring all this over to be filed. I warned you the last time, and told you for the tenth time to send me the invoice so you can shut your mouth. Even post it on the forum as myself and the mods said. It was been publicly documented.

At this point, the lawyer can deal with you. Nite.

It's the lure of easy money...

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Not just this time either.

http://www.gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/899589-female-celebrity-database-10-000-celebs-70-gb.html

But since everyone else is doing it, it's ok for him. :1orglaugh

There is no lawyer.

As I said, I am simply referring this over to lawyer so I am not going to go into it. I can assure you that there is a lot more to the story then being told here. I was just happy it was publicly posted play by play. Easy to print off. Plus I have three MODS who can verify all.

It's a simple concept. Do work. Send invoice. Get paid.

In the end, I hope it was worth it. It's going to cost him a lot more than $150.00.

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It would cost you a lot more than $150 to get out of paying $150, if there really was a lawyer or lawsuit. That makes absolutely NO SENSE at all, which is why most here will just think you're a liar, which is definitely the case at this point. :1orglaugh

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You're no daisy. You're no daisy at all.

Wow, I've not seen a horse beaten this badly after death in a long time. Shall I bring my machete? I think we could make some horse steaks.

The man sig whores/spams to make a buck or two here and there...so I am satisfied that you are correct.

can i get that trainwreck pic posted in here please

Your avatar is REALLY sick man... You should change it.

Nah, the cat was quite comfortable in there.

Based off the mild info in this thread, it appears you know how to pay him... just pay it, your invoice is the email saying he would do the work for that price. You don't need an actual paper that is all pretty with the word invoice on it.

Lawyer wise... they won't entertain it, the story makes no difference.

Fuck it, I'm calling my lawyer too!

Normal logic, as mentioned above doesn't exist in Douchetooties world.

This guy questioned him and he doesn't like that. So now he's just going to do whatever he can to deflect and not pay this guy.

You know what he's doing. I know what he's doing. He knows EXACTLY what he's doing.

My lawyer told me...oh wait, I don't have one. :)

lawyer will tell "Pay the man"

Does Angry Jew Cat know about this?

Sig.

My lawyer told me that Barefootsies is a fucking idiot and to just ignore the stupid fucker...

Retainer.

Beyond that, I am not going to say anything else. I am simply going to gather up the information, and history, and turn it all over in the morning.

As someone who hires people, gets hired and has had programs - when something like this comes up, legit, mistake, whatever - you do whatever it takes to make it go away.

Great example of why right here...

He should've just stopped fucking with everyone else over the issue once it got too hot. Instead, he keeps bumping threads and threatening everyone else. He could've continued handling business as usual but no, he wants to keep it going.

see sig please

Tried repeatedly. Publicly documented. Didn't work.

Retainer is no different than if I called up a lawyer and hired them, it just means you pay a guy to listen to your bullshit more... and his one hour of work on retainer, is probably more than the amount owed.

If your lawyer is any good he will tell you this is stupid and when you lose you're going to have to pay the other lawyers fees and probably court costs, then he's probably going to tell you to pay the man and then take $200-300 off the retainer for you wasting his time.

My rant references paying him without an invoice - because you don't actually need an invoice if you know who/how to pay.

That's how you make things go away.... as you can see by this thread, being stubborn and not paying is biting you in the ass.

You got the same lawyer as pr0 I assume.

He claims it is about money. It never was otherwise he could have IM/EMAIL/PM/2nd EMAIL/PHONE/posted the invoice publicly on the board as requested me at any time. That's just the facade.

If you really wanted to get paid, and you had that many different options to get a hold of someone, don't you think you would have simply made the effort to be paid? I mean really? In the end, I told him I did not want his code but would pay him anyway to get him to piss off. That also was posted publicly. He never made an effort. This has probably gone 3, 4, 5 rounds now. I have repeatedly, and publicly, offered to pay him.

On your other points, I agree with you completely. You're right.

guy does work for you and you threatening him for not providing you with an invoice for lousy $150? i remember thread where u were fucking laughing at designers who demand prepay although I'm sure you would never (maybe with few exceptions) deliver before collecting. this is some fucked up contradicting twisted shit right here.

It doesn't make a shit what you or me think it's about - this is the only fact that you need to focus on.

"Paying him, makes this all go away"

If you paid him, posted the proof of that - everyone would be hamming him instead of you, but because you didn't - it's here, now... it's very very very simple logic.


I would swallow my pride here and pay up, speaking from personal experience.

you prolly forgot this:

What goes around, comes around :2 cents: