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Nodtveidt 04-28-2010 09:05 PM

Some business owners do not pay an invoice if there is no invoice to pay. It's plain and simple record keeping. No invoice, no pay. Pretty simple, IMO.

CYF 04-28-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodtveidt (Post 17085226)
Some business owners do not pay an invoice if there is no invoice to pay. It's plain and simple record keeping. No invoice, no pay. Pretty simple, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Senior_Spank (Post 17085005)
I wrote a script for him to rip videos off of a foot fetish website. Agreed upon price was $150, he never paid up.

A quote from another forum where he admits that I should send him an invoice; that's great and all but he has me blocked from all forms of messenger and refuses to provide an e-mail address to send the invoice.

:upsidedow

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodtveidt (Post 17085226)
Some business owners do not pay an invoice if there is no invoice to pay. It's plain and simple record keeping. No invoice, no pay. Pretty simple, IMO.

Exactly.

It's because people do not get you the invoices once you pay them. I have had this issue with many over the years, which is why I now do it this way to make sure I get my docs for taxes.

That said, this guy could have contacted me any number of ways to be paid. I have yet to receive any EMAIL/IM/PM/PHONE CALL from him. Hell, he could have posted it ON THE FORUM and it would have been paid immediately.

spacedog 04-28-2010 09:11 PM

Damn, lol :1orglaugh

an easy solution would of been to send paypal.. Win Win for everybody.

coder gets paid.. barefootsies gets invoice from paypal...

But no, that would of been far less entertaining.

TheDoc 04-28-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodtveidt (Post 17085226)
Some business owners do not pay an invoice if there is no invoice to pay. It's plain and simple record keeping. No invoice, no pay. Pretty simple, IMO.



Agreed....I tend not to pay without an invoice, I have no issues forcing people to send me an invoice. I do sometimes make acceptations... like one guy couldn't email me, tried from several accounts - so I just paid him.

Now, if someone took something like this to the boards, being that I own my own company, I can bend the rules to end the situation when I know who to pay.

This is round two of the issue... it could have been solved on round one.

End of the day... I can print the job emails as my invoice and hand write who I paid on it, that's still a legal invoice.

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17085228)
great and all but he has me blocked from all forms of messenger and refuses to provide an e-mail address to send the invoice.

Oh yeah?

Nor could he send it to my company's email, or the email he was literally blowing up for a week and a half, nor did he PM me through IQ69's mail system, nor has he provided an invoice on the forum or a way to pay him.

I guess all those were blocked also.
:upsidedow

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17085230)
an easy solution would of been to send paypal.. Win Win for everybody.

coder gets paid.. barefootsies gets invoice from paypal...

He has to provide me his PP. Which he could have done easily enough.

It was repeatedly asked for along with invoice, publicly on forum!

TheDoc 04-28-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085229)
Exactly.

It's because people do not get you the invoices once you pay them. I have had this issue with many over the years, which is why I now do it this way to make sure I get my docs for taxes.

That said, this guy could have contacted me any number of ways to be paid. I have yet to receive any EMAIL/IM/PM/PHONE CALL from him. Hell, he could have posted it ON THE FORUM and it would have been paid immediately.

And you could have just paid him.... it goes both ways.

You could pay him right now and end this thread.... but it's going to continue on for several pages I would guess for several days - simply because you won't pay him.

Senior_Spank 04-28-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085229)
That said, this guy could have contacted me any number of ways to be paid. I have yet to receive any EMAIL/IM/PM/PHONE CALL from him. Hell, he could have posted it ON THE FORUM and it would have been paid immediately.

I am unable to locate the e-mail you sent me. Whoa is me, I use multiple computers and sometimes it happens.

You first stopped responding to all IM messages, then you seem to have blocked me 100%.

PM, yes I guess I could have. What should I have said to you?

You called me from an anonymous #, not sure how to call you back.

Here is your invoice, zkonsult. com/footsies.pdf - You will have to recreate the URL since I do not have 30 posts yet.

Richard

TheDoc 04-28-2010 09:17 PM

Weeeeeee solution!

theking 04-28-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Senior_Spank (Post 17085237)
I am unable to locate the e-mail you sent me. Whoa is me, I use multiple computers and sometimes it happens.

You first stopped responding to all IM messages, then you seem to have blocked me 100%.

PM, yes I guess I could have. What should I have said to you?

You called me from an anonymous #, not sure how to call you back.

Here is your invoice, zkonsult. com/footsies.pdf - You will have to recreate the URL since I do not have 30 posts yet.

Richard

There is your invoice...now pay the man.

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17085151)
Your avatar is REALLY sick man... You should change it.

isnt that just eating pussy :helpme

CYF 04-28-2010 09:20 PM

http://zkonsult.com/footsies.pdf

There's a link for you senior_spank :thumbsup

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17085235)
You could pay him right now and end this thread....

I can send the money right now man. Where am I sending to? This has yet to be provided.

As for the lawyer reference. It has nothing to do with this payment. That is a separate well documented history with this guy that goes beyond this.

CYF 04-28-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085244)
I can send the money right now man. Where am I sending to? This has yet to be provided.

As for the lawyer reference. It has nothing to do with this payment. That is a separate well documented history with this guy that goes beyond this.

http://zkonsult.com/footsies.pdf

there's your invoice.

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17085243)
http://zkonsult.com/footsies.pdf

There's a link for you senior_spank :thumbsup

you have sent $150.00 USD to zKonsult Consulting Services.

Quote:

Payment details
Amount: $150.00 USD
Transaction Date: Apr 28, 2010
Transaction ID: 3TB83814G36966717

See how fucking easy that was? Paid in less than one fucking minute.

spacedog 04-28-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085244)
I can send the money right now man. Where am I sending to? This has yet to be provided.

It's on the invoice

CYF 04-28-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17085251)
It's on the invoice :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Senior_Spank 04-28-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085250)
See how fucking easy that was? Paid in less than a fucking minute.

Whatever issues I had with Barefootsies has been resolved. While his business practices seem to run a bit "spammy", he no longer has any outstanding debts with me.

Footsies, thank you for your payment. Best of luck to you and your business; I will stop thread crapping on your posts and bring up the fact your bill with me is now $0 on the other forums we both do business on.

Richard

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17085251)
It's on the invoice

Look at time stamp and my reply between posts. I was still typing.

Once received, was paid.

HandballJim 04-28-2010 09:27 PM

I always request a paypal invoice 1st before I send funds, this way I have several methods of payment since I don't keep funds in my paypal acct. Also when gathering records for your taxes it is easy to just sort by Invoice.

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 17085258)
I always request a paypal invoice 1st before I send funds, this way I have several methods of payment since I don't keep funds in my paypal acct. Also when gathering records for your taxes it is easy to just sort by Invoice.

I do the same for everything.

My assistant need to submit their time sheet the week prior with hours, and tasks per day (log). The handy man working on my house the past two years needs to submit them before payment (learned that lesson the hard way big time!), konrad, Prezzz, borked, Spannow all have submitted invoices the same way.

All paid once received. Never had an issue.

BigDeanEvans 04-28-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085184)
Retainer.

Beyond that, I am not going to say anything else. I am simply going to gather up the information, and history, and turn it all over in the morning.

LOL pure comedy. :1orglaugh

BigDeanEvans 04-28-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17085222)
It doesn't make a shit what you or me think it's about - this is the only fact that you need to focus on.

"Paying him, makes this all go away"

If you paid him, posted the proof of that - everyone would be hamming him instead of you, but because you didn't - it's here, now... it's very very very simple logic.


I would swallow my pride here and pay up, speaking from personal experience.

That would be the smart thing to do but he isn't too bright. He has proven time and time again that he is a thickheaded dumbass...even when he is totally in the wrong. But, what else would you expect from someone who makes their living slanging shitty tube packages to newbs on gfy.com for 18 hours a day.

Lawyer? Retainer? nigga please

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 09:43 PM

FACT: No One Was Called a Scammer

:2 cents:

Serge Litehead 04-28-2010 09:45 PM

i see what u did here

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 09:46 PM

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This message is hidden because holograph is on your ignore list.
:arcadefre

Serge Litehead 04-28-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085290)
:arcadefre

like i care :)

The Porn Nerd 04-28-2010 09:49 PM

11 Barefootsies threads and counting....

PS: Going out on a limb here but for $150 bucks it won't fuck up your taxes either way. Expense it. Claim a couple fucking dinners. Pay the dude and move on. Ordinarily I would FIGHT too but at this point, write a check and move on. IMHO

AlCapone 04-28-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17084596)
A poll is not proof.

Ta ta.
:pimp

2005 Spammer vs. 2001 Veteran, let's see who wins.

SEO Expert 04-28-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Senior_Spank (Post 17085005)
Dipsh... Erhm footsies interpretation of events? That his server was "too full" to handle all of the videos and I should hold on until he deletes space. Currently one of his assistants is sick, and his other one does not have the capacity to clear up space on the server so he is severely overloaded on work at the moment.

How the fuck is he selling hosting services if his own server can't handle the load of some video scraping? If this is not a scam, then i don't know what is. :1orglaugh


Oh wait, so the super awesome great "Tube content" packages he sells is the stolen videos from other tubes?

ROFLMAO! :1orglaugh

AlCapone 04-28-2010 10:30 PM

Barefootsies, where can I send you my invoice for wasting my time reading your posts?

Vjo 04-28-2010 10:35 PM

I don't think you all really care.. you just like to argue. :)

And BF is like a cat who could go the other way and avoid alot of barking but loves to walk through the far yard with all the dogs and then taunt them. :)

But I guess that is.. As The GFY Turns :)

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 17085334)
How the fuck is he selling hosting services if his own server can't handle the load of some video scraping?

I am not going to rehash months worth of b.s. that has already been publicly discussed on another forum. Suffice to say, those remarks are not accurate.

Cliff notes.

1. This was months ago before I had gotten into hosting, and when I was moving servers.
2. I never took delivery of his scrapper. Which he can verify never installing it.
3. The foot fetish and tickling content my production company makes is legal and licensed. The content for tube sites is also legal and licensed by Loch. Konrad licenses my tube script and provides unlimited, and ongoing support.

The only REAL gripes about me that are tangible would be I am aggressive marketing on forums, and that annoys some people. Fair enough. I admit that. I make a lot of money off the forums because of it.

I have sold celebrity sites and work with celebrity content the same as many programs do here on GFY. Whether you think celebrity niche is right or wrong, make sure you take their banner out of your sig before commenting. I'll also expect to see you in every program's celebrity thread on the board from now on.

Celebrity niche is just like tube sites. It's that big turd in the punch bowl for the adult industry, many affiliates, and programs. However, most want to deny or refuse to acknowledge having anything to do with it.

SEO Expert 04-28-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085370)
I am not going to rehash months worth of b.s. that has already been publicly discussed on another forum. Suffice to say, those remarks are not accurate.

I have sold celebrity sites and work with celebrity content the same as many programs do here on GFY.

I read the thread on the other board. You got your ass handed to you by everyone for not paying the guy and dodging him. Then when everyone got fucking sick of your back and forth deflecting bullshit that had been going on for weeks, the mods just told everyone to STFU and drop the subject.

First, no one besides you blatanly sells celebrity content packages. Programs run celeb sites, but that's different - you can use "borrowed" celeb images if it's in the context of "news" or "reviews"- like Mr.Skin has been doing for years.

Simply selling celeb content you have no rights for = selling stolen content. Period.

Bottom line is you by basically selling stolen content that belongs to photogs. And your argument is: "if everyone else is doing it - i can do it too!" (but besides you, no one else is actually doing it)


Lame.

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 17085379)
blah blah blah back peddling bullshit DJ about to lose another nick

Sorry. None of that saves you from not providing PROOF WITH ACCUSATION.

Bye bye.

mgtarheels 04-28-2010 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodtveidt (Post 17085226)
Some business owners do not pay an invoice if there is no invoice to pay. It's plain and simple record keeping. No invoice, no pay. Pretty simple, IMO.

A conversation history, whether it is ICQ, Email, etc. is sufficient enough as an invoice.

There was a business agreement made. There's nothing wrong with the code, and I'm sure it performs as described.

If anything BF is going to fuck himself. It'll be humorous to watch unfold.

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 17085379)
I read the thread on the other board. You got your ass handed to you by everyone for not paying the guy and dodging him. Then when everyone got fucking sick of your back and forth deflecting bullshit that had been going on for weeks, the mods just told everyone to STFU and drop the subject.

First, no one besides you blatanly sells celebrity content packages. Programs run celeb sites, but that's different - you can use "borrowed" celeb images if it's in the context of "news" or "reviews"- like Mr.Skin has been doing for years.

Simply selling celeb content you have no rights for = selling stolen content. Period.

Bottom line is you by basically selling stolen content that belongs to photogs. And your argument is: "if everyone else is doing it - i can do it too!" (but besides you, no one else is actually doing it)


Lame.

Semantics.

SEO Expert 04-28-2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085381)
Sorry. None of that saves you from not providing PROOF WITH ACCUSATION.

Bye bye.


http://i.current.com/images/asset/89...6o_400x300.jpg




- Do you have the rights (proper papers) to the celebrity content you are selling?

- No (because these rights belong to photographers who took the photos)


Here's your PROOF.

Barefootsies 04-28-2010 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17085389)
A conversation history, whether it is ICQ, Email, etc. is sufficient enough as an invoice.

There was a business agreement made. There's nothing wrong with the code, and I'm sure it performs as described.

If anything BF is going to fuck himself. It'll be humorous to watch unfold.

Considering I helped out your broke fucking ass on ICQ back in March for a week or two, I probably would keep my mouth shut about chat logs. Considering your are a broke ass newbie.

:pimp


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