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Kirby 04-29-2010 09:29 AM

Whelp, based on the poll results, on what people have been posting about this Barefootsies guy and about the public attitude to him in general , i have decided that Barefootsies is a kind of shady person and better not to be dealt with. Therefore,

Barefootsies: BLACKLISTED.

Kirby 04-29-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17086536)
lol that's a pile of shit. i paid The Hun and Mark GTS over a million dollars (at least) without any fucking invoices lol. it's called email.

Yes, to me too, it sounds like "no invoices" was just an excuse to dick the person around, waste his time and not pay him.

:2 cents:

Klen 04-29-2010 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirby (Post 17086564)
Yes, to me too, it sounds like "no invoices" was just an excuse to dick the person around, waste his time and not pay him.

:2 cents:

Not really,i also deal with people who wont pay until invoice is sended.Since i get paid instantly after that,i have no problem with that.

Serge Litehead 04-29-2010 11:21 AM

lol how about no pay - no fucking work.. go make up your own invoice if you need it.. just bunch of bs really..

two parties involved, one delivers another backpedals - all in clear. why should anybody do any work to be hassled for their money at the end.. if both parties are responsible - they will go out of their own way to deliver what they agreed on - everything else is bunch of rotten salami.

and toots i don't care if you gonna reply again that i'm on your ignore. it will not stop me from speaking my mind. so GFY :)

DateDoc 04-29-2010 11:28 AM

Do the 50+ ppl that voted yes have to post proof?

Nodtveidt 04-29-2010 12:55 PM

Quite frankly, I'm not sure I'd want to do business with the vast majority of posters in these threads. All I see are wild accusations thrown around without proof, one-sided stories told, and a lot of cover-ups and lies. And I don't really give a shit if someone points their finger at me and says "STFU noob! you're just a broke-ass Puerto Rican who scams people too!". This is an industry of greed, so deceit comes naturally, and the only ones who can survive are the ones with rock-solid business savvy...or the ability to scam under-the-radar and not get caught. Quite often, these two things are the same...

And I'm sorry, but if I had to choose sides in this matter, I'm more inclined to agree with Barefootsies, based on all of the presented evidence and my own intuition. Sometimes, circumstances make a situation look worse than it is...I have plenty of experience with that from that stupid thread I posted a few months back. But regardless, his way of doing business is not dissimilar to mine, and that particular manner is the safest for one's own business. If someone feels they get fucked over in the process, then perhaps they should get their own cards in order and clean up their act. No one's perfect, but everyone can use improvement.

Brujah 04-29-2010 12:58 PM

STFU noob! you're just a broke-ass Puerto Rican who scams people too!

Nodtveidt 04-29-2010 01:43 PM

...and I cook cats. :D

Brujah 04-29-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodtveidt (Post 17087423)
...and I cook cats. :D

Are they tasty?

I'm kidding. I just had to do it since you quoted it and all. :winkwink:

Argos88 04-29-2010 03:58 PM

Interesting....

ninavain 04-29-2010 04:40 PM

I'm not saying he is a scammer, but last year, this fucker bought a portion of our content package from Simon Synister/Sologirlcontent for $2k, we sent the entire package in full, but he needed to pay in 4 payments of $500 over 2 months, ok fine, Simon thought he was a cool guy, so no problem. Then he wanted to add our content to those tube site deals, we thought about it for a minute and then backed off...he said guys would send him $$ for the deal..so why not send our cut to us and we ship the content??? So we know everything is legit. He didn't like that we backed off...He requested a signed license so he could use the content on his sites and that was fine, he set us the license agreement...we signed, scanned and emailed back to him, that was not good enough and a few weeks later he tried to REFUND the paypal payments he had sent, even though he had all the content, all the 2257 and a signed/scanned copy of the license agreement..( but he wanted to refund because he needed a hard copy of that agreement) So we fed-ex it to him and told him to drop the dispute on Paypal, he didn't , even though he had everything he asked for. but he was unable to get his moneyback since it was over 45 days since he sent it ( the 1,2,3 payment) the 4th payment we won, because we proved he was sent the docs via fed ex and signed for it


in the end our paypal was blocked, I think his was too, not sure, but I just felt that was kinda shitty and really unwarranted. I wouldn't doubt if HE got Sologirlcontent banned, probably trying to get me banned right now, fuck him.

All I can say is, if you're dealing with him, get your money UPFRONT and by WIRE or Money Order.

Not as described dispute - #PP-000-819-720-951

Status

This dispute closed because it was opened more than 45 days after the transaction date or did not meet other filing criteria. We encourage you to work with your buyer to resolve any issues.

We may reopen this dispute in the future if you receive excessive buyer complaints.
Messages

From Buyer - 1st Choice Entertainment

10/29/2009 14:57 PDT

Payment 3 of 4. Despite numerous attempts to retrieve my signed license since payment in full. Seller has yet to provide it. I have contacted him numerous times asking for it, was told it was sent, then asked again, told sent again. Then finally admitted it was never sent, and would send when he felt like it. I can't use material without the license, signed. So it is worthless.

Back to Resolution Center
Transaction #0WL93234PG4408312

* $500.00 USD
* 8/25/2009 18:08 PDT

* 1st Choice Entertainment
* [email protected]

Shipping address

1st Choice Entertainment
XXXX Sprinkle Rd, Ste XXX
Portage, MI 49002
United States

Agent 488 04-29-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 17087948)
I'm not saying he is a scammer, but last year, this fucker bought a portion of our content package from Simon Synister/Sologirlcontent for $2k, we sent the entire package in full, but he needed to pay in 4 payments of $500 over 2 months, ok fine, Simon thought he was a cool guy, so no problem. Then he wanted to add our content to those tube site deals, we thought about it for a minute and then backed off...he said guys would send him $$ for the deal..so why not send our cut to us and we ship the content??? So we know everything is legit. He didn't like that we backed off...He requested a signed license so he could use the content on his sites and that was fine, he set us the license agreement...we signed, scanned and emailed back to him, that was not good enough and a few weeks later he tried to REFUND the paypal payments he had sent, even though he had all the content, all the 2257 and a signed/scanned copy of the license agreement..( but he wanted to refund because he needed a hard copy of that agreement) So we fed-ex it to him and told him to drop the dispute on Paypal, he didn't , even though he had everything he asked for. but he was unable to get his moneyback since it was over 45 days since he sent it ( the 1,2,3 payment) the 4th payment we won, because we proved he was sent the docs via fed ex and signed for it


in the end our paypal was blocked, I think his was too, not sure, but I just felt that was kinda shitty and really unwarranted. I wouldn't doubt if HE got Sologirlcontent banned, probably trying to get me banned right now, fuck him.

All I can say is, if you're dealing with him, get your money UPFRONT and by WIRE or Money Order.

Not as described dispute - #PP-000-819-720-951

Status

This dispute closed because it was opened more than 45 days after the transaction date or did not meet other filing criteria. We encourage you to work with your buyer to resolve any issues.

We may reopen this dispute in the future if you receive excessive buyer complaints.
Messages

From Buyer - 1st Choice Entertainment

10/29/2009 14:57 PDT

Payment 3 of 4. Despite numerous attempts to retrieve my signed license since payment in full. Seller has yet to provide it. I have contacted him numerous times asking for it, was told it was sent, then asked again, told sent again. Then finally admitted it was never sent, and would send when he felt like it. I can't use material without the license, signed. So it is worthless.

Back to Resolution Center
Transaction #0WL93234PG4408312

* $500.00 USD
* 8/25/2009 18:08 PDT

* 1st Choice Entertainment
* [email protected]

Shipping address

1st Choice Entertainment
XXXX Sprinkle Rd, Ste XXX
Portage, MI 49002
United States

http://www.moonbattery.com/house-of-cards.jpg

Nodtveidt 04-29-2010 05:07 PM

I am so swiping that pic. :)

PenisFace 04-29-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17086536)
lol that's a pile of shit. i paid The Hun and Mark GTS over a million dollars (at least) without any fucking invoices lol. it's called email.

Yeah but arent the hun and Mark GTS guys who don't spam the hell out of boards? Plus they have a history of being "top notch" (i hate that term) guys. I wouldn't trust footsies with 10 bucks after reading this thread + the others. he is burning bridges left and right.

Argos88 04-29-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirby (Post 17086558)
Whelp, based on the poll results, on what people have been posting about this Barefootsies guy and about the public attitude to him in general , i have decided that Barefootsies is a kind of shady person and better not to be dealt with. Therefore,

Barefootsies: BLACKLISTED.

How do you block a user on GFY?

Is the option somewhere? Can't find it right now to ignore a user. Also the option to report a bad post has been removed "it seems".

alias 04-29-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17088071)
How do you block a user on GFY?

Is the option somewhere? Can't find it right now to ignore a user. Also the option to report a bad post has been removed "it seems".

User CP > Edit Ignore List

Nodtveidt 04-29-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17086536)
lol that's a pile of shit. i paid The Hun and Mark GTS over a million dollars (at least) without any fucking invoices lol. it's called email.

You can call it a pile of shit all you want, but your own personal experiences and preferences aren't law, they're simply your personal experiences and preferences. Not all of us rely on a person's word or on email, and they have less impact in court than a valid invoice. But I can say one thing for sure...it looks like a few people have royally fucked up in their dealings here. Common sense states that you ALWAYS get payment up-front for sales. When you go to the grocery store, you don't get to leave the store with bags full of groceries on the promise that you will pay later, you have to pay right then and there, no exceptions. The same should apply to when you sell content...take payment up-front or no deal, no exceptions. If you get fucked in the deal because you didn't do this, then you're gonna be kicking yourself later. I'm not saying that it's right for someone to fuck you over like this, but honestly, it's partially your own fault for not doing the deal in the proper manner. When it comes to this kind of stuff, never trust a person's word, no matter who it is. Would you all trust me, someone with virtually no reputation around here, to "pay later" for a huge amount of content? No way in hell.

pocketkangaroo 04-29-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 17087948)
I'm not saying he is a scammer, but last year, this fucker bought a portion of our content package from Simon Synister/Sologirlcontent for $2k, we sent the entire package in full, but he needed to pay in 4 payments of $500 over 2 months, ok fine, Simon thought he was a cool guy, so no problem. Then he wanted to add our content to those tube site deals, we thought about it for a minute and then backed off...he said guys would send him $$ for the deal..so why not send our cut to us and we ship the content??? So we know everything is legit. He didn't like that we backed off...He requested a signed license so he could use the content on his sites and that was fine, he set us the license agreement...we signed, scanned and emailed back to him, that was not good enough and a few weeks later he tried to REFUND the paypal payments he had sent, even though he had all the content, all the 2257 and a signed/scanned copy of the license agreement..( but he wanted to refund because he needed a hard copy of that agreement) So we fed-ex it to him and told him to drop the dispute on Paypal, he didn't , even though he had everything he asked for. but he was unable to get his moneyback since it was over 45 days since he sent it ( the 1,2,3 payment) the 4th payment we won, because we proved he was sent the docs via fed ex and signed for it


in the end our paypal was blocked, I think his was too, not sure, but I just felt that was kinda shitty and really unwarranted. I wouldn't doubt if HE got Sologirlcontent banned, probably trying to get me banned right now, fuck him.

All I can say is, if you're dealing with him, get your money UPFRONT and by WIRE or Money Order.

Not as described dispute - #PP-000-819-720-951

Status

This dispute closed because it was opened more than 45 days after the transaction date or did not meet other filing criteria. We encourage you to work with your buyer to resolve any issues.

We may reopen this dispute in the future if you receive excessive buyer complaints.
Messages

From Buyer - 1st Choice Entertainment

10/29/2009 14:57 PDT

Payment 3 of 4. Despite numerous attempts to retrieve my signed license since payment in full. Seller has yet to provide it. I have contacted him numerous times asking for it, was told it was sent, then asked again, told sent again. Then finally admitted it was never sent, and would send when he felt like it. I can't use material without the license, signed. So it is worthless.

Back to Resolution Center
Transaction #0WL93234PG4408312

* $500.00 USD
* 8/25/2009 18:08 PDT

* 1st Choice Entertainment
* [email protected]

Shipping address

1st Choice Entertainment
XXXX Sprinkle Rd, Ste XXX
Portage, MI 49002
United States

Why would you not call him a scammer? You got scammed.

Barefootsies 04-29-2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 17088174)
Why would you not call him a scammer? You got scammed.

Actually, that would be a no.
http://www.gfy.com/17085596-post42.html

pocketkangaroo 04-29-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17088187)
Actually, that would be a no.
http://www.gfy.com/17085596-post42.html

In you opinion. My opinion is that ninavain was scammed and the runaround with documents was just an excuse for someone who couldn't afford the product yet wanted it anyway.

Barefootsies 04-29-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 17088227)
My opinion

Well that's the great thing about opinions. People can opt to not be base them on facts.

1. Ordered content.
2. Paid for all content.
3. Asked for a signed release. Did not get it.
4. Asked again ... ... ...
5. Filed dispute to force hand before expiration of dispute period.
6. What I had asked for was then sent that next Monday via FedEx.
7. Received what I asked for that week.
8. Dispute closed.

He was already paid in full. So you're "opinion" really is not based on any of the facts already pointed out in this matter in the first thread. However, when that did not get the desired response. It was posted yet again. I am not going to keep arguing something that happened a year ago, and was resolved, in 10 different threads until the O.P. gets the desired result or banned.

It's pretty straight forward to anyone who actually runs a business. If I pay you in full for something, I expect to receive ALL pieces of it in a timely fashion. That includes a signed release. If you do not provide it, there are limited channels of recourse. I forced the hand. Received what was asked for. Dispute over.

Carry on.

fris 04-29-2010 07:08 PM

why not pay all at once?

Argos88 04-29-2010 08:26 PM

if someone must SPAM away to make a few sales and pay his bills, he's obviously doing something wrong and he's not able to make money honestly...

I recommend this guy to signup for McDonalds.

.

Barefootsies 04-29-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17088504)
if someone must SPAM away to make a few sales and pay his bills, he's obviously doing something wrong and he's not able to make money honestly...

I recommend this guy to signup for McDonalds.

.

Unlike you, I make money while being here.
http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=131

I do not waste my entire day here trolling strangers for free.

Sabby 04-29-2010 08:36 PM

You need more options.. I have a different oppinion.


Sabby:)

Sabby 04-29-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17088520)
Unlike you, I make money while being here.
http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=131

I do not waste my entire day here trolling strangers for free.

I make no money being here, but im not here often. I guess for me it ultimately causes a diversional interest when needed.

I guess I am a consumer here not a seller.

I am a successful camgirl... part-time webmaster...

I enjoy the downtime.


Sabby:)

spacedog 04-29-2010 08:48 PM

Wow.. more shit creeping out of the toilet

Sabby 04-29-2010 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17088549)
Wow.. more shit creeping out of the toilet

AMWAY will save you!!!!


Sabby:)

Sabby 04-29-2010 08:54 PM

BTW someone can only be a scammer if you let them scam you... Lets do a GFY idiot poll...

most of the time they just dont suit your "pie in sky" image.



Sabby:)

ninavain 04-29-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 17088174)
Why would you not call him a scammer? You got scammed.

he TRIED but was unsuccessful, since paypal did not grant him his refund, but the paypal accounts were both shut down since it was a deal for porn content, it's just dumb for him to bitch to paypal about a porn transaction.

The Porn Nerd 04-29-2010 09:26 PM

See si - SHIT! Nevermind.

NetHorse 04-29-2010 09:36 PM

This thread was an incredible waste of my time, to whom do I send an invoice to?

Thanks in advance.

Sabby 04-29-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17088649)
This thread was an incredible waste of my time, to whom do I send an invoice to?

Thanks in advance.

You chose to read... like buying a book... watching a movie... the world goes by.. buy... buy... buy..... buy.....



Sabby:)

pocketkangaroo 04-29-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 17088571)
he TRIED but was unsuccessful, since paypal did not grant him his refund, but the paypal accounts were both shut down since it was a deal for porn content, it's just dumb for him to bitch to paypal about a porn transaction.

Gotcha. If someone tries to scam you though, they are a scammer. Thanks for letting others know though.

papill0n 04-29-2010 09:59 PM

thank christ you have your tits Sabby because what comes out of your mouth is the epitomy of mindless crap

papill0n 04-29-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17087987)

:thumbsup

Sabby 04-29-2010 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 17088680)
thank christ you have your tits Sabby because what comes out of your mouth is the epitomy of mindless crap

ya :) its cool. we all have our strenghs I guess.


What are yours?

Sabby:)

The Porn Nerd 04-29-2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17088690)
ya :) its cool. we all have our strenghs I guess.


What are yours?

Sabby:)

I will answer for him, because it is late and I am bored while my pornographic videotapes convert silently behind me:

I have Five Inches of Fun.

</////////>~~

BigDeanEvans 04-29-2010 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17088187)
Actually, that would be a no.
http://www.gfy.com/17085596-post42.html

I would agree with your assessment. Being in business for over 12 yrs i have paid people without invoices. Seems like BF was trying to get out of paying :2 cents:

ninavain 04-29-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17088549)
Wow.. more shit creeping out of the toilet

is this the new face of GFY..btw this public info so if you want to get your BFF to ban me for posting it, I don't care..it's all bullshit ass-kissing anyway. I never seen so much of it as long as I've been on this board

seriously Bell Biv Devo.LOLOLOL
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4135/chrismaher.gif
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4135/chrismaher.gif

THIS IMAGE GOT DJ BANNED LAST YEAR, IT HAS NOW DONE THE SAME FOR YOU.

BestXXXPorn 04-30-2010 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17088272)
1. Ordered content.
2. Paid for all content.
3. Asked for a signed release. Did not get it.
4. Asked again ... ... ...
5. Filed dispute to force hand before expiration of dispute period.
6. What I had asked for was then sent that next Monday via FedEx.
7. Received what I asked for that week.
8. Dispute closed.

If this was the order of operations then Barefootsies prevented himself from being scammed by using the PayPal dispute system as it was intended.

I've used the dispute system before in a similar manner... I had paid for an item off of Ebay which was defective and I couldn't get the seller to contact me back. When the dispute period was about to be up I had no choice but to file it. After I did the seller contacted me back (finally) and he exchanged the item for a new one. I guarantee if I would have let that period pass me by I never would have seen a working product :(

RaiderCash_Dominik 04-30-2010 06:29 AM

Footsies is 36 years old? For some reson I thought he was in his early 20-s. wow.

ninavain 04-30-2010 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17089358)
If this was the order of operations then Barefootsies prevented himself from being scammed by using the PayPal dispute system as it was intended.

I've used the dispute system before in a similar manner... I had paid for an item off of Ebay which was defective and I couldn't get the seller to contact me back. When the dispute period was about to be up I had no choice but to file it. After I did the seller contacted me back (finally) and he exchanged the item for a new one. I guarantee if I would have let that period pass me by I never would have seen a working product :(

1 difference inthis matter...HE HAD EVERYTHING , content, 2257, INCLUDING AN ELECTRONIC VERSION OF THE SIGNED LICENSE at least a MONTH before he tried to dispute it on Paypal

candyflip 04-30-2010 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik (Post 17089381)
Footsies is 36 years old? For some reson I thought he was in his early 20-s. wow.

36 and trolling college hookup sites for true love. :1orglaugh

gideongallery 04-30-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17085127)
As I said, I am simply referring this over to lawyer so I am not going to go into it. I can assure you that there is a lot more to the story then being told here. I was just happy it was publicly posted play by play. Easy to print off. Plus I have three MODS who can verify all.

It's a simple concept. Do work. Send invoice. Get paid.

In the end, I hope it was worth it. It's going to cost him a lot more than $150.00.

did your original job request specifiy the no invoice no pay rule
or did you just add that after you got called out

if it the former your right

if it the latter then the arguement is nothing more than another deflection.

Brujah 04-30-2010 02:26 PM

"THIS IMAGE GOT DJ BANNED LAST YEAR, IT HAS NOW DONE THE SAME FOR YOU."

If that image is damaging to footsies somehow, it should probably be removed?

Eric 04-30-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17091192)
"THIS IMAGE GOT DJ BANNED LAST YEAR, IT HAS NOW DONE THE SAME FOR YOU."

If that image is damaging to footsies somehow, it should probably be removed?

The image that ninavain posted with personal info WAS removed. Now CUT THE FUCKING SHIT, PAY FUCKING ATTENTION, GO PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE!

candyflip 04-30-2010 02:43 PM

Thanks for leaving us the other one to at least laugh at from time to time. :1orglaugh

Brujah 04-30-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 17091217)
The image that ninavain posted with personal info WAS removed. Now CUT THE FUCKING SHIT, PAY FUCKING ATTENTION, GO PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE!

I'm using Google Chrome on the Mac. I wasn't here when these images were posted, so maybe an image was removed that I'm not seeing but I'm telling you that I still see a large image for CampusHook, and a link to the image just above it.

Is that the same image or was there another one? If so, how the fuck am I supposed to know the difference when I still see the image in the post?

Brujah 04-30-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17091242)
Thanks for leaving us the other one to at least laugh at from time to time. :1orglaugh

I'll take it that there was another image then and I didn't see it. I assumed it was the CampusHook image he was referring to, since his phrase was right below the image.


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