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Oracle Porn 05-01-2010 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17092920)
And that would be a low estimate. :thumbsup



Shows how much of a clue you have. None.
Sorry dude, but you seem to think that anything with the word TUBE in it must suck. Hate to break it to you, but it doesnt.

Much more involving factors.. not even going to explain. I thought you wanted to learn something but you dont obviously.

you can talk the talk I give you that.
Learn, lol. like you've given any value to this thread other then chit chat. People hit me up on icq cuz of this thread to tell me you are full of shit lol.

dropped9 05-01-2010 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17092920)
And that would be a low estimate. :thumbsup



Shows how much of a clue you have. None.
Sorry dude, but you seem to think that anything with the word TUBE in it must suck. Hate to break it to you, but it doesnt.

Much more involving factors.. not even going to explain. I thought you wanted to learn something but you dont obviously.

I'm all ears. Please explain.

Jack Sparrow 05-01-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17093015)
you can talk the talk I give you that.
Learn, lol. like you've given any value to this thread other then chit chat. People hit me up on icq cuz of this thread to tell me you are full of shit lol.

Oh really. Ask them how they know me or what i did or still do.
Or even better, tell us who these "people" are.

I bet you cant come up with one decent name. It will be "i respect their privacy im not gonna tell" bullshit lol.

Next thing will be you asking for screenshots of proof huh? :)

Why do i even care? Its fun to see people like you asking for advice then going in rantmode when you have the possibilty to talk to someone whos primary biz has been tubes :)

halfpint 05-01-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17092980)
The homepage is under construction.
The application timed out because the google api was not responding...
They should be doing something better.

Its just over a month old, give them some time and it will be the same as cpalead which makes a lot of people a lot of money

xp-ViT 05-01-2010 09:20 AM

Sell ad spots at: Ero Advertising or traffic to: Proffesional Traffic

stever 05-01-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17093248)
Oh really. Ask them how they know me or what i did or still do.
Or even better, tell us who these "people" are.

I bet you cant come up with one decent name. It will be "i respect their privacy im not gonna tell" bullshit lol.

Next thing will be you asking for screenshots of proof huh? :)

Why do i even care? Its fun to see people like you asking for advice then going in rantmode when you have the possibilty to talk to someone whos primary biz has been tubes :)

hey mrfrisky im just curious nothing more

but most tubes i see have very aggressive ads pops/player/hover banners/etc

but im not seeing any of that on the site in question so just wondering if you changed this recently or if it is still being monetized the same way as always?

wouldnt that more aggressive approach generate more CTR and more money?

Choker 05-01-2010 10:23 AM

The days of making a tube site throwing a little traffic at it and getting massive bookies is over. Unless you have deep pockets I would not even consider a tube site at this point. If however you have a paysite program and own your own content a legal tube is the way to go. It's very hard to squeeze a profit out of a legal tube site unless your a program owner and use your own movies to upsell to your paysite and advertise dating sites on it also. And if your thinking of using less than full length movies on a tube site your just gonna waste a lot of time and money for nothing. Program owners using their content to advertise products other than just thier paysites are making money with tube sites.

Jack Sparrow 05-01-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17093635)
The days of making a tube site throwing a little traffic at it and getting massive bookies is over. Unless you have deep pockets I would not even consider a tube site at this point. If however you have a paysite program and own your own content a legal tube is the way to go. It's very hard to squeeze a profit out of a legal tube site unless your a program owner and use your own movies to upsell to your paysite and advertise dating sites on it also. And if your thinking of using less than full length movies on a tube site your just gonna waste a lot of time and money for nothing. Program owners using their content to advertise products other than just thier paysites are making money with tube sites.

Exactly!!:thumbsup

halfpint 05-01-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17093635)
The days of making a tube site throwing a little traffic at it and getting massive bookies is over. Unless you have deep pockets I would not even consider a tube site at this point. If however you have a paysite program and own your own content a legal tube is the way to go. It's very hard to squeeze a profit out of a legal tube site unless your a program owner and use your own movies to upsell to your paysite and advertise dating sites on it also. And if your thinking of using less than full length movies on a tube site your just gonna waste a lot of time and money for nothing. Program owners using their content to advertise products other than just thier paysites are making money with tube sites.

I am seeing a niche tube site that only offers 2-3 min movies as teasers and they have a members area which offers the full length movies whith both credit card access and a free survey access I know he is making $$ cause I referred him and I am also making $$ from it.

So in one way yes you need full length movies but you can still only offer teasers as an incentive to a members area with a tube site

harvey 05-01-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17092840)
What on earth are you tralking about ? Have you even tried it out ? You get paid for the surveys... Its a way to make money without the surfer having to pull out his credit card.

These are earnings taken from the chat

has earned $31.00 so far today with 5 leads and 240 clicks.

has earned $24.80 so far today with 4 leads and 173 clicks.

has earned $31.31 so far today with 5 leads and 38 clicks

The mainstream version has over 50k publishers and this adult one is new so they must be doing something right ?

Log into the site even if you dont want to try it out and you will see exactly what I mean

man, sorry, they can be the sweetest thing on Earth, but if they can't even hire someone to finish their own site, then that rings a bell. Seriously. Either they don't give a fuck, either they don't have the money to pay. And I still don't know why should I give people access to a premium area worth tens of dollars a month in exchange of a few cents. And since I don't see them explaining why should I do it..... simple maths.

And comparing them to cpalead.com and mainstream traffic.... sorry, but if you can't see the differences, then I don't even know what to say. For starters, traffic is absolutely different. Getting 10 cents from Google Ads or Chitika or whatever or getting those 10 cents from cpalead makes no difference.

the fact that Adult Access Now claims to be part of cpalead.com yet their whois don't match and cpalead.com says nothing about this relationship is weird to say the least. The differences about both sites (barring the logo) are day and night. And the list goes on and on and on

Again, not saying they can't be legit, it's just that they failed miserably in building any credibility and simple logic tells me I should be crazy if I go $30 recurring value in exchange of a few cents. Simple maths.

halfpint 05-01-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey (Post 17094382)
man, sorry, they can be the sweetest thing on Earth, but if they can't even hire someone to finish their own site, then that rings a bell. Seriously. Either they don't give a fuck, either they don't have the money to pay. And I still don't know why should I give people access to a premium area worth tens of dollars a month in exchange of a few cents. And since I don't see them explaining why should I do it..... simple maths.

And comparing them to cpalead.com and mainstream traffic.... sorry, but if you can't see the differences, then I don't even know what to say. For starters, traffic is absolutely different. Getting 10 cents from Google Ads or Chitika or whatever or getting those 10 cents from cpalead makes no difference.

the fact that Adult Access Now claims to be part of cpalead.com yet their whois don't match and cpalead.com says nothing about this relationship is weird to say the least. The differences about both sites (barring the logo) are day and night. And the list goes on and on and on

Again, not saying they can't be legit, it's just that they failed miserably in building any credibility and simple logic tells me I should be crazy if I go $30 recurring value in exchange of a few cents. Simple maths.

I dont think you fully understand how this works. You wont be making cents.

You can offer this as an alternative for credit card billing so you have two payment gateways. Most of their surveys pay out $5.00 and up to $11.00 You can choose which surveys you wish to use.

You can set the amout of time the user is allowed to view your content. So you can in effect charge them $5.00 for a 1 day access period or 1 hour if you like before they have to fill in another survey for which you will recieve another $5.00 or what ever surveys you have chosen to use.

What I am trying to get accross is this can be used as a second payment gateway. If your user does not want to pull out his credit card.

They are def part of CPALEAD because the same people work on both sites and the payments come from cpalead

I have seen this working on a tube site as I said in my above post.

Oracle Porn 05-01-2010 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 17094382)
man, sorry, they can be the sweetest thing on Earth, but if they can't even hire someone to finish their own site, then that rings a bell. Seriously. Either they don't give a fuck, either they don't have the money to pay. And I still don't know why should I give people access to a premium area worth tens of dollars a month in exchange of a few cents. And since I don't see them explaining why should I do it..... simple maths.

And comparing them to cpalead.com and mainstream traffic.... sorry, but if you can't see the differences, then I don't even know what to say. For starters, traffic is absolutely different. Getting 10 cents from Google Ads or Chitika or whatever or getting those 10 cents from cpalead makes no difference.

the fact that Adult Access Now claims to be part of cpalead.com yet their whois don't match and cpalead.com says nothing about this relationship is weird to say the least. The differences about both sites (barring the logo) are day and night. And the list goes on and on and on

Again, not saying they can't be legit, it's just that they failed miserably in building any credibility and simple logic tells me I should be crazy if I go $30 recurring value in exchange of a few cents. Simple maths.

You hater you! Experts giving advice here and here you are talking sense.

halfpint 05-01-2010 04:10 PM

here are some more stats taken from the chat now you cant say this is cents

xxx earned $3,494.85 last month with 674 leads and 18,100 clicks.
[AdultAccessNow Server] AdultAccessNow [6:04 pm]: had a conversion rate of 7.03% and $0.41 EPC for the USA and 0.84% and $0.02 EPC for the UK last month.

If the guy which I referred from GFY who knows he is making $$$ would like to post to confirm that if this is used correctly it does work

CHMOD 05-01-2010 06:30 PM

Tube sites are cancer to this industry :

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...orn02_ST_N.htm

IllTestYourGirls 05-01-2010 06:31 PM

MrFrisky = the hardest person to get hold of in the world.

TheDoc 05-01-2010 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHMOD (Post 17094675)
Tube sites are cancer to this industry :

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...orn02_ST_N.htm

Illegal tubes you mean... saying porn going to a different technology is a cancer is what the mainstream porn side said when the Internet first came about. And we can see from that article and the pile of others, how well the mentality of not accepting technology jumps works out in the end.

harvey 05-01-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17094773)
Illegal tubes you mean... saying porn going to a different technology is a cancer is what the mainstream porn side said when the Internet first came about. And we can see from that article and the pile of others, how well the mentality of not accepting technology jumps works out in the end.

thanx for saving me the time to type it, it's getting boring :sleep

Argos88 05-01-2010 10:07 PM

don't fight the impossible.

youtube officialy admitted they r losing money.

NickB. 05-01-2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17089245)
p.s. I call bullshit on $40k on a 120k tube site with PURE SE traffic

its all about linking to sponsors properly from sponsor uploaded videos
were sending a lot of big checks to 100,000 u/a day tubes

Jack Sparrow 05-02-2010 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17094426)
You hater you! Experts giving advice here and here you are talking sense.

For someone "asking" the questions you arent talking a lot of sense either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17094773)
Illegal tubes you mean... saying porn going to a different technology is a cancer is what the mainstream porn side said when the Internet first came about. And we can see from that article and the pile of others, how well the mentality of not accepting technology jumps works out in the end.

Amen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 17094781)
thanx for saving me the time to type it, it's getting boring :sleep

Amen +1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickB. - Triplexcash (Post 17095010)
its all about linking to sponsors properly from sponsor uploaded videos
were sending a lot of big checks to 100,000 u/a day tubes

We finally agree on something. Amen +2.

Choker 05-02-2010 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17094363)
I am seeing a niche tube site that only offers 2-3 min movies as teasers and they have a members area which offers the full length movies whith both credit card access and a free survey access I know he is making $$ cause I referred him and I am also making $$ from it.

So in one way yes you need full length movies but you can still only offer teasers as an incentive to a members area with a tube site

I was refering to a general niche tube site. But yeah niches other than the standard teen, amateur, etc I can see using short teaser clips and upselling still working.

neonlights 05-02-2010 08:58 PM

dont worry he is a narcisstic faggotry who likes to exaggterate his earnings.

stever 05-02-2010 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stever (Post 17093538)
hey mrfrisky im just curious nothing more

but most tubes i see have very aggressive ads pops/player/hover banners/etc

but im not seeing any of that on the site in question so just wondering if you changed this recently or if it is still being monetized the same way as always?

wouldnt that more aggressive approach generate more CTR and more money?

hey mrfrisky did you miss this?


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