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SmokeyTheBear 05-01-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17092301)
I think it is sad that people would post on here about the AZ law and how some of you think it is racist. Yet no one posts about the sheriff's deputy that was shot doing his job today.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100501/...na_deputy_shot

probably because drug smugglers and immigration laws don't really have anything to do with each other :2 cents:

Fletch XXX 05-01-2010 08:20 AM

Drug Smugglers and Human Smugglers are often one in the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

Agent 488 05-01-2010 08:26 AM

ineffectual blips of white trash outrage mean nothing.

figure out the root cause and maybe you will get somewhere. but once you realize you are up against real power you will feel your powerlessness and return to little hillbilly sideshows such as the one that is the subject of this thread.

SmokeyTheBear 05-01-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17093311)
Drug Smugglers and Human Smugglers are often one in the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

100% of heroin addicts started on salt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt

point was the 2 things aren't really connected in any way. Sucks this cop got shot , but other than happening in the same state it doesn't seem to have much to do with the debate going on.

brassmonkey 05-01-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17093311)
Drug Smugglers and Human Smugglers are often one in the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

yes they do both sometimes

fatfoo 05-01-2010 09:14 AM

RIP AZ sheriff's deputy shot by illegal aliens.

AaronM 05-01-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17092301)
I think it is sad that people would post on here about the AZ law and how some of you think it is racist. Yet no one posts about the sheriff's deputy that was shot doing his job today.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100501/...na_deputy_shot


I don't see one single thing in that article that specifically states that the man was an illegal alien. Considering that they did not catch the guy, he could be a fucking Eskimo for all anybody knows.

tammix 05-01-2010 11:20 AM

this must be a pseudo-shooting, fabricated, to gain adepts to the new law, probably extreme wing people who hired hit men to make a big story and have people saying "hey, so thats true, immigrants are dangerous people, they tried to kill a deputy..."
too much coincidence it happened these days, so I dont buy it

AaronM 05-01-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tammix (Post 17093815)
this must be a pseudo-shooting, fabricated, to gain adepts to the new law, probably extreme wing people who hired hit men to make a big story and have people saying "hey, so thats true, immigrants are dangerous people, they tried to kill a deputy..."
too much coincidence it happened these days, so I dont buy it


Um....Things like this have been happening a lot. This is the reason for the new law.

JaneB 05-01-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 17093464)
I don't see one single thing in that article that specifically states that the man was an illegal alien. Considering that they did not catch the guy, he could be a fucking Eskimo for all anybody knows.



I think the deputy that was shot can tell the difference between a hispanic and an eskimo.

The area is a well-known smuggling corridor for drugs and illegal immigrants headed from Mexico to Phoenix and the U.S. interior.

Robbie 05-01-2010 01:02 PM

We need to finish building that big wall across the border. Keep everybody out. We've already got the news organizations that don't tell us what's really going on in other countries and the govt. propaganda that tells us how much better we have it than every other country on earth. And we have a big list of "evil" countries to keep growing the military.

This sounds PERFECT. Just another reason why we're number 1! Nobody else could have come up with these ideas!

Oh, wait a minute. The Soviet Union did the exact same thing after WW2, and continued until Ronald Reagan famously said to Gorbachev: "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall!"

Have the people in this country really done a complete 180 from supporting freedom to now wanting to act like the Soviets of the cold war era? I thought we were taught that they were the bad guys?

Gee, I wonder who the world now considers to be the bad guys? We've occupied Germany and Japan since the end of WW2 for fuck's sake.

Our govt. is out of control.

Robbie 05-01-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17093898)
The area is a well-known smuggling corridor for drugs and illegal immigrants headed from Mexico to Phoenix and the U.S. interior.

Maybe it's time for the U.S. govt. to stop trying to tell grown men and women what they can and can't do when they want to party. End the "War on drugs" (also known as the war on U.S. citizens) and the border "problem" goes back to just being hard working people coming over to pick fruit and vegetables like it was for a couple of hundred years.

As long as drugs are illegal, we're just creating rich criminals south of the border and when there are billions of dollars at stake...it will get violent.

BlackCrayon 05-01-2010 01:07 PM

here is what needs to be done: we need one person stationed every 100 feet along the border and just shoot to kill everyone who tries to cross.

brassmonkey 05-01-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17094057)
here is what needs to be done: we need one person stationed every 100 feet along the border and just shoot to kill everyone who tries to cross.

:1orglaugh bam!

dav3 05-01-2010 01:50 PM

Get ready to have these bad boys roving the border:

http://i43.tinypic.com/3025j5g.jpg

JaneB 05-02-2010 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17094052)
Maybe it's time for the U.S. govt. to stop trying to tell grown men and women what they can and can't do when they want to party. End the "War on drugs" (also known as the war on U.S. citizens) and the border "problem" goes back to just being hard working people coming over to pick fruit and vegetables like it was for a couple of hundred years.

As long as drugs are illegal, we're just creating rich criminals south of the border and when there are billions of dollars at stake...it will get violent.



They are never going to legalize all drugs. Perhaps pot, but I can't imagaine cocaine, meth, heroin and other drugs being legal. Then you would have a bunch of high people driving around. It is bad enough drunks get behind the wheel. If people want to come to the US they can do it legally. The US has always been open to new citizens.

RaiderCash_Dominik 05-02-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17096314)
If people want to come to the US they can do it legally. The US has always been open to new citizens.

You dont have a slightest idea how hard it is to do that.
It takes years for people to get their parents in.
US Immigration is a mess.

Family All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed CHINA-mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st 08JUL04 08JUL04 08JUL04 15OCT92 01MAR94
2A 01JUN06 01JUN06 01JUN06 01JAN05 01JUN06
2B 01MAR02 01MAR02 01MAR02 15JUN92 15SEP98
3rd 22MAY01 22MAY01 22MAY01 15OCT92 01MAR92
4th 01MAR00 01MAR00 01MAR00 08DEC95 08SEP87

Take a look at this.
Right now they are processing July 04 application from 1st priority group - daughter, son, mother, father.
You're saying this is acceptable? A US citizen re-uniting with his parents has to wait 6 fucking years?

MaDalton 05-02-2010 02:37 PM

how many of you smoke weed? 50%? 60%? more? the percentage of people in this biz who do coke is not that little either.

since i assume not everyone is growing his own stuff, you probably buy it somewhere. so you support exactly those people you now want out and that just shot that deputy.

stop buying drugs and hiring cheap labor and you already solve half of the problem :2 cents:

Sly 05-02-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17096382)
how many of you smoke weed? 50%? 60%? more? the percentage of people in this biz who do coke is not that little either.

since i assume not everyone is growing his own stuff, you probably buy it somewhere. so you support exactly those people you now want out and that just shot that deputy.

stop buying drugs and hiring cheap labor and you already solve half of the problem :2 cents:

True. A mere 5000 people from the adult industry (being very generous here) stopping all drug use will totally eliminate the problem. Why didn't we think of that sooner?

MaDalton 05-02-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17096385)
True. A mere 5000 people from the adult industry (being very generous here) stopping all drug use will totally eliminate the problem. Why didn't we think of that sooner?

an avalanche starts with one snow flake :winkwink:

but i just tried to point out the hypocrisy, i'm not as stupid as you are insiniuating

Sly 05-02-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17096402)
an avalanche starts with one snow flake :winkwink:

but i just tried to point out the hypocrisy, i'm not as stupid as you are insiniuating

I know you're not, but it's fun to poke a German!

MaDalton 05-02-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17096404)
I know you're not, but it's fun to poke a German!

caution! or i'll take you on a walk in San Francisco and sabotage your brakes :upsidedow

_Richard_ 05-02-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 17094182)
Get ready to have these bad boys roving the border:

http://i43.tinypic.com/3025j5g.jpg

haha man

Best wishes to the Deputies recovery

tiger 05-02-2010 03:48 PM

No one in Arizona seems to notice or care that he was shot by drug dealers that just happen to be illegals. Instead they seem to see this as an opportunity to brand immigrants the same as drug dealers. I would say the problem has more to do with failed drug policy and border security then it has to do with illegal immigration. Hope the office makes a full recovery though he didn't deserve to pay that price either way.

Robbie 05-02-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17096314)
They are never going to legalize all drugs. Perhaps pot, but I can't imagaine cocaine, meth, heroin and other drugs being legal. Then you would have a bunch of high people driving around. It is bad enough drunks get behind the wheel. If people want to come to the US they can do it legally. The US has always been open to new citizens.

Jane, my point earlier is that people are going to do what they want to no matter what the govt. says or does.

People have been smoking pot, snorting coke, and everything else for a looooonnnnnnngggg time. And they are going to do it no matter what some old men in Washington D.C. decide for us.

I personally don't think it's the governments place to tell me I can't snort a line of coke on a Friday night. I'm a grown man.

But the point is...people are already high and drunk and driving around. That will NEVER change no matter how many laws they make against it. Matter of fact, the U.S. "war on drugs" was started by Nixon to stop the "hippies" from their "decadent lifestyle"

And guess what? MORE people than ever before are doing drugs.

So if we are already doing more recreational drugs than any other country in the world irregardless of what our corrupt govt. tries to do...Then why not just make it legal, stop the violence and all those people getting killed and tax it?

I left home at 17 and I don't need a goddamn govt. trying to be my "daddy" and tell me how to live my life. And now the chickens are coming home to roost in the form of border violence. End the war on drugs and you end the border violence. It's really that simple.

Just google up "Prohibition" and see what happened with alcohol and all the violence...and how it ENDED instantly when alcohol was legalized. This ain't brain surgery, and it doesn't require us to keep making MORE fucked up laws and it doesn't require us to start acting like Nazi's or Stalin-style Soviets either.

Just give the citizens of the United States the freedoms that we are SUPPOSED to have and have the govt. stop trying to play "gotcha" at every damn corner and that "problem" on the border is over.

Sly 05-02-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17096416)
caution! or i'll take you on a walk in San Francisco and sabotage your brakes :upsidedow

LOL. I've only been to San Francisco twice, both only for roughly 24 hours. Scared shitless is all I can say. LOL.

GatorB 05-02-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger (Post 17096508)
No one in Arizona seems to notice or care that he was shot by drug dealers that just happen to be illegals. Instead they seem to see this as an opportunity to brand immigrants the same as drug dealers. I would say the problem has more to do with failed drug policy and border security then it has to do with illegal immigration. Hope the office makes a full recovery though he didn't deserve to pay that price either way.

Yesterday there was a cop killed in Minnesota. Killed by 2 AMERICANS. So obviously we need to rid this country of Americans.

brassmonkey 05-02-2010 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger (Post 17096508)
No one seems to notice or care that he was shot by drug dealers that just happen to be illegals. Instead they seem to see this as an opportunity to brand immigrants the same as drug dealers. I would say the problem has more to do with failed drug policy and border security then it has to do with illegal immigration. Hope the office makes a full recovery though he didn't deserve to pay that price either way.

time to close the border we'll see who suffers the worse Az or mexico

Vendzilla 05-02-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 17092998)
What good would a gun law that only law abiding citizens followed do?


.

Exactly
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 17093162)
Looks like it's time to stock up on even more ammo!

That started when Obama took office

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17092303)
Now if we just had anti-gun laws this never would have happened.

I'm sure the criminals will follow that law
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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17092310)
This would not have happened if the border was secure. A gun law is not going to change anything. :2 cents:

Thats correct

BlackCrayon 05-02-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17096382)
how many of you smoke weed? 50%? 60%? more? the percentage of people in this biz who do coke is not that little either.

since i assume not everyone is growing his own stuff, you probably buy it somewhere. so you support exactly those people you now want out and that just shot that deputy.

stop buying drugs and hiring cheap labor and you already solve half of the problem :2 cents:

good weed doesn't come from mexico.

Fletch XXX 05-02-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17096515)
LOL. I've only been to San Francisco twice, both only for roughly 24 hours. Scared shitless is all I can say. LOL.

man Sly you got me and Cherry laughing so hard on this, I just read it to her. BUAHAHA

MaDalton 05-02-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17096515)
LOL. I've only been to San Francisco twice, both only for roughly 24 hours. Scared shitless is all I can say. LOL.

:1orglaugh picture this as a 1920ties b/w Stan&Laurel type of movie with a funky piano playing along... :winkwink:

AaronM 05-02-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17093898)
I think the deputy that was shot can tell the difference between a hispanic and an eskimo.


OK, so an Eskimo he is not. However, just being Hispanic does not make him an illegal and neither does anything in the article. Yet YOU have labeled him as such.

Clearly you are a racist.

tony286 05-02-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17096382)

stop buying drugs and hiring cheap labor and you already solve half of the problem :2 cents:

good point until I see CEO's taken out of their places of business in shackles for hiring illegals then I will know they are serious. They have laws against that too and they dont do shit. Im not talking some bullshit fine, Im talking about arresting and throwing in jail.
Also people that want to do it legally talk about what a mountain to deal with it. Huge costs and all kinds of government bullshit to deal with. Good luck to someone cutting grass or working as a dishwasher affording being able to do that. Most of them aren't drug dealers, they come here looking for work. Stop giving them work and they will go back from where they came from.

RaiderCash_Dominik 05-02-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 17096882)
good point until I see CEO's taken out of their places of business in shackles for hiring illegals then I will know they are serious.
Also people that want to do it legally talk about what a mountain to deal with it. Huge costs and all kinds of government bullshit to deal with. Good luck to someone cutting grass or working as a dishwasher affording being able to do that. Most of them aren't drug dealers, they come here looking for work. Stop giving them work and they will go back from where they came from.

There is zero difference between you or people reporting to CEOs hiring illegal’s. SEO don’t hire illegal’s !!! They want to see the cost going down, and its up to field people to hire illegals or some cracker that wants health insurance and 18 bucks an hour.
This is not any different from you making a choice of hiring web design company with $1,800 price tag versus some filipino boy with pirated Photoshop that will do same job for 300.

brassmonkey 05-02-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik (Post 17096933)
There is zero difference between you or people reporting to CEOs hiring illegal?s. SEO don?t hire illegal?s !!! They want to see the cost going down, and its up to field people to hire illegals or some cracker that wants health insurance and 18 bucks an hour.
This is not any different from you making a choice of hiring web design company with $1,800 price tag versus some filipino boy with pirated Photoshop that will do same job for 300.

decaf holmes :1orglaugh illegals its time to say bye

papill0n 05-02-2010 10:40 PM

Jane I know this might not be appropriate in the midst of such a serious discussion but would you mind posting a few pics of your tits please. thanks

RaiderCash_Dominik 05-02-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17097000)
decaf holmes :1orglaugh illegals its time to say bye

Nigga please. They aren't going anywhere.
We need them. Almost everyone of those tea baggers use them one way or another. Cutting grass, fixing their kitchen. They do and they will.
I bet your apartment manager or your mom uses them to keep his/her cost down. Wake the fuck up.

tiger 05-02-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17096520)
time to close the border we'll see who suffers the worse Az or mexico

That's actually an interesting question. If it were possible it would be interesting to watch the outcome.

ahoy 05-03-2010 12:13 AM

There has been some amazing thoughts in this thread. Everything from Hispanic = illegal to solving problems by making all drugs legal and easily accessible, more fucking crackheads running around, wonderful.

Thank goodness the porn industry doesn't make decisions for all of society.


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