So it's not Bullshit, I wasn't an Independent Landed Immigrant... I had the privileges that Canadians get - you didn't. Just like a illegal immigrant doesn't. Both are temporary Visa's as well.

I was a legal worker being hired by a Canadian Company. To do that, you have to prove no other Canadian can do the job.

For Farm Labor and other types of jobs, both Countries have very easy Temp Visa's to obtain.. Both directly targeted towards Mexicans too. So Companies saying they must hire illegals are full of shit, and illegals saying they can't get Visa's is bullshit, when 10,000's are given out several times a year for the Industries they say Americans don't want jobs in.

wow.... That was some pretty blatant racism...





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couple of observations:
the violence of the drug war may not bleed into the US side of the border.
proof: Juarez Mexico is now the deadliest town in Mexico, on the other side of the border is El Paso, one of the cities in US with the least crime.

Last I heard, Boeing is the US company selected to build the "electronic" wall, the project collapsed earlier this year as many of electronic detection measures did not work at all.. but they are re-vamping the project again and according to my sources still with Boeing...

The only real way USA can prevent the illegal immegration of poor mexicans is by changing the economics in Mexico.
The desperate poor will be just that, desperate and poor.

You know how it is man, if you white, group of 50 blacks can attack your white family screaming "this is a black world" and its not considered a hate crime at all.

White guilt dictates, a white man can not and will never experience racism.

http://www.ohio.com/news/50172282.html

My privilege was Masters degree in computer science. And no, its not temporary visa, its an application for "landed immigrant" visa. An equivalent of green card in the US.
How about reading up some of that from the link I provided. Its a Canadian consulate in Buffalo, NY. I'm sure they know a few things about immigration in Canada.
Independent immigrants have every social benefit other Canadians do. Three years, and you can apply for citizenship. They can't get on a welfare unless they already worked for company and had insurance. That's why its called skilled worked - a professional that can find a job and suck government tit forever.
That just shows how little you know about this.

I meant ..
and NOT suck government tit forever.

So you're arguing over the wording of Skilled Worker vs. Professional? What are you a tool?

You said you were a landed immigrant.. "I have done it myself" - You don't need a degree to be a professional/skilled worker, but you said that was your Privilege to get in. I think you're confused on how you got into Canada.

Landed Immigrants can't get on the system because they aren't citizens and don't have work visa's. And as you said they have to work first as well... and if they want to keep the status they have, they must apply again as I stated and the Website says. If they want to move forward, they have to wait about 4 years to apply, wait 6-18 months for it to process, then another 3 years to wait to apply for citizenship, which is what the website says.

Your original point was how fast it was... that's at least 7 years before processing. About what it takes in America.


So.... would you like to prove my facts even more?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Landed Immigrant is equivalent to "permanent resident" status in the US. Its an immigration status that allows person to legally live and work in Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_resident_(Canada)

landed Immigrant can be family based, refugee, independent immigrant and so on.. Its a legal status of one being in canada as immigrant.. a person on the way of becoming Canadian. After 3 years of LI status you can apply to become canadian citizen. based on what category of landed immigrant you are, you can or cannot apply for welfare benefits upon your arrival to Canada. If you are some refugee from Somalia and Canada granted your asylum, you probably won't have to work a day...
Skilled independent worker category takes anywhere from 6 month to two years to be processed, depending where you reside. Mine took 9 month and only because my fingerprints weren't readable the first time. It takes 6 years for US INS just to OPEN the case of your mother and review her eligibility. On top of that it will take another year or more to process her immigration papers.

Stop wasting my time with your ignorance.

http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question...3134732AAyaHyw

Family case: 6 month in canada VS 6 years in the US.

So what were you saying ????

Consideration for your fellow man
Would not hurt anybody, it sure fits in with my plan
Over the border, there lies the promised land
Where everything comes easy, you just hold out your hand

Keep your suspicions, I've seen that look before
But I ain't done nothing wrong now, is that such a suprise
But I've got a sister who'd be willing to oblige
She will do anything now to help me get to the outside

So don't tell anybody what I wanna do
If they find out you know that they'll never let me through, because

It's no fun being an illegal alien, I tell ya
It's no fun being an illegal alien, and it's getting me down
It's no fun being an illegal alien, no no no no no
It's no fun being an illegal alien, yeah yeah yeah

I seem to be on the computer all day? For you to make that retarded assumption, you would have to be on the computer all day long monitoring my activities. I post here a few times a day at MOST, ergo try again.

i just made a spam samich

I never said it wasn't... I said you don't get the same privileges, and you don't.. You can't vote until you become a Citizen. Once your working, you're paying taxes and qualify for healthcare which is why the professional gets the benefits.

I stated the above - You can apply for Citizenship 3 years AFTER you become a Landed Immigrant.. To apply for Landed Immigrant status it takes 4 years. Oh and you said "it can take 9 months to process" but we will ignore that time..

That's still 7 years any way you twist it... it takes damn near the same amount of time in America.

Green card for green card, Canada may be faster - who gives a shit? Canada has like 250 million less people, shit probably should get done quicker.


Are we now talking about family case instead of you or me going into Canada? Cause that's not what we referenced throughout these posts... so it's kinda odd to twist it now.

However - as stated before, I don't care that it takes longer here, at that.. if you can so easily migrate into Canada, why anyone would Sponsor someone is stupid - just move.

God damn, you're an idiot.
This is what you said
"Landed Immigrants can't get on the system because they aren't citizens and don't have work visa's."
landed immigrants don't need a visa. They have a immigration status that allows them to work and live in Canada. Comprende? They DO NOT NEED visa.
They can't vote but do have every other social benefit that canadian citizens do. if you immigrated as skilled worker and not refugee or as family based immigrant you do not qualify for IMMIDIATE welfare and unemployment benefits. You have to be employed for 22 month in Canada to gain full benefits for unemployment. God damn, you either playing with me or dumber than my fucking cat.


No it doesn't. when I did it in 2001 it took me 9 month. Right now if you do it in Buffalo its about 12 month. if you do it in Poland for instance, it takes 2 years because its a lot harder to do background check. Do some googling for Christ sake.
fuck it. i will even do it for you:

http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question...3134732AAyaHyw

" Skilled worker can take as little as 12 months if you have the right job (a job in demand). Or it can take 2 to 6 years if you dont have a job in demand. That time also depends on which country you come from."

Here's a list of jobs in demand as of right now:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...tions.asp#list

No, it's not 7 and not 4 years.

Maybe there is immigrant category for stupid. They get a special line that takes 4 years to process. You should know better. you were there. Or maybe they just discriminate brain dead ex-marines. I didn't see them in that list of jobs in demand.
Everyone else gets it in 12 month.

That is a pretty fucking stupid question. I know MANY people of various races who do not like people of their same race. It's fairly common these days actually. Now I can add you to that list. I refer to people like you as: "hypocritical racists."

Nobody in the story YOU linked to said anything about the shooter being an illegal. That's all you bitch.

As for "this state"....Do you mean AZ? I guess your dumb ass is not aware that I have had a place in AZ for over a year now.

Stick to what you know which is CLEARLY.....well....Nothing really.

here. lets put this to rest.
At least we both agree on one thing that you don't know shit about this issue.

http://www.immigration.ca/permres-faq-english.asp#4

I didn't see any special office for "stupid" where you had your papers processed for 4 years if it takes 3 years for some street sweeper from Yemen get his shit done.

TheDoc, you reading this????

no. A living hell must be what you face every day:thumbsup

Make sure you get your facts straight. This is coming from someone that has been trying to legally have residence in Canada. I have been going through the issue since 2001. Currently I have been out of the country since January 9th because they will not allow me back in. I clearly pass all point qualifications that you believe yet I still have issues. So here I sit in my country of birth, the US, and wait for my papers once again to be cleared so I can go to my home in Toronto.

So kindly take your 6 month family case and shove it up your ass. I'm not taking either your side or the person you are arguing with. But do not quote the bullshit about it only taking 6 months to get into Canada versus 6 years to get into the states.

Today's "Native Americans are now not believed to be the "First" settlers of the America's, they are now believed to be the second wave of settlers that gave us the genetic origin of today's Eskimos, Aleuts and the Navajo.
Thus they displaced people also and are not generally thought of as the original settlers, by many of the scientific community today.

Early immigrants most closely resembled the prehistoric Jomon people of Japan and their closest modern descendants, the Ainu, from the Japanese island of Hokkaido,

The immigrants settled throughout the hemisphere, and were in place when a second migration -- from mainland Asia -- came across the Bering Strait beginning 5,000 years ago and swept southward as far as modern-day Arizona and New Mexico, the study said. The second migration is the genetic origin of today's Eskimos, Aleuts and the Navajo of the U.S. southwest.

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/41/080.html

. . .

Probably not. He's too busy, in another thread, trying to justify being a thief.

we aren't talking about family case here.
I guess they just don't want your ass there and telling you to fuck off. I know plenty of people that went thru this process and qualified easily. I did it MYSELF in 2001. So please shut the fuck up.
You're telling that youi have qualifications and passed self assessment test yet you can't get your legal residence in Canada. BULLSHIT !!! I bet you have some rap sheet somewhere..

here's a forum where people discuss their issues and timeline of applications..
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-imm...-t40806.0.html

Initial application to Nova Scotia: June 8, 2009

Received the approval letter from NS : August 19, 2009 (via email)

Sent full documnets to Buffalo: Sep 23, 2009

Received AOR from Buffalo : October 21, 2009 (via email)

Got an email from Buffalo asking for an RCMP fingerprint on April 6, 2010 (Via email)

All of them are fucking liars.. all of them.. this guy filed in october 09 and going for fingerprinting.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-imm...-t26562.0.html

I hope those migrant workers kill all the capitalist swine that oppress them.

well, that would explain his immigration delay. Most countries don't want criminals on their soil even if they are just a petty thieves. what did he do?

Are you on drugs? Again, I'm not talking about the application process...

You have true mental issues... you twist shit your way so many times in this thread, it's rather pathetic and strange.

Again, you're simply repeating what I have already said but with your own dumb ass argument added to it.

Your ignorance comes out in every post. Before you make any guesses about a person's qualifications make sure you know who the person is and what their circumstances are.

You want to know my rap sheet? Convicted of DUI in 1995. Currently not a sticking point in my immigration matter at all. I even received the Canadian certificate of rehabilitation.

So do us all a favor and take your chest thumping rhetoric and once again kindly shove it up your ass. Your experience does not dictate what happens with everyone. Just like mine does not.

As a side note, I hope the name in your program has nothing to do with the Oakland Raiders. If it does, then your program has no chance of success if it's managed the same way.

Oh you are a comedian now eh?
So tell me what the deal is. Hundreds of people from this Canadian immigration forum post their application/interview/fingerprinting dates lying as well? their stories are all "shove it up your ass" because some guy on GFY is having some legal problems with Canadian immigration?
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-imm...igration-b4.0/
There are people from mother fucking Pakistan posting faster results than you and doc telling me. ofcourse he is also telling me that landed immigrants don't have work visa.. so what ever... but lets talk about you. Whats your problem? Why is some turban guy from Pakistan got his shit processed in 24 month and you've been denied for 9 years. lets hear it comedian... lets hear it...

So what are you talking about than?
I quoted your shit.. didn't twist anything.
The work visa for landed immigrants.. :helpme You don't have a slightest clue, do you? Piss off and stop wasting my time.

Nationalism and patriotism are a form of mental retardation.

"HOLY FUCK THIS IS THE BEST LOCATION OF LAND ON THE PLANET BECAUSE I WAS BORN HERE. Y OU WERE BORN THERE AND THAT PLACE IS GARBAGE" *has downs*

For all the people that get in relatively easily, there are plenty of others that have to go through the same bullshit that I have gone through. But here is the bottom line. I have been getting TRP's (temporary resident permit) and work visas for the 10 years. When I went for my permanent resident interview in Buffalo the agent was unprepared. They were unaware that I was even showing up until I showed them my letter and the appointment time. When they realized I was in the right they "did me favor" and allowed me to have my appointed interview. When I went face to face with the agent she did not have all of the paperwork and documentation in front of her. Believe me, the documentation on my case is thicker than a Hong Kong phonebook. Her extent of investigation was doing a look up of the phone number of the company I have been working for on Google. When it didn't come up with our company name she pretty much took the road that the company didn't even exist. I pleaded to her to get the documentation that I know they had because we had proof before I went down that they signed for it when it was sent 2 separate times. She wouldn't have it. She decided to let herself believe that the company, which has employed over 100 people in Toronto alone, didn't exist. Thus beginning an even longer line of bullshit, documenting and even court dates.

So you can take your belief that someone wearing a turban is such a problem that Canada doesn't even care and lets everyone in. I will be proof that it is not as bright in the world as you make it out to be.

That's the joke, the Canadian immigration system and typical idiocy of government employees. Plus the fact that we have paid over $90,000.00 in legal fees to deal with this stupidity. So if I sound bitter it's because I am. Those people on that forum can also shove the process up their ass. People that go through the bullshit that I do don't waste time posting on those forums.

So you're sayinbg our government is fucked up, we knew that

Well, in that case I am talking about 95% of those that do go thru process relatively fast. You must be unlucky 5%. I didn’t even have an employer, but did qualify for skilled worker program because I had degree that was in demand and work experience. In my case I didn’t even have to fly for an interview.
The bottom line is majority of immigration cases in Canada are 10 times faster than in the US. Family case in US takes 6 years. That’s official tracker from INS. 6 years!!! 10 years if you’re applying for anyone else in your family besides your nearest blood relative. F1 work visas take 5-6 years to process as well and have lots of restrictions as well.
Immigration system is extremely small and does everything opposite from what it supposed to do which is legalizing those that honor the rules. That goes to jane’s post about those that “want to immigrate to US legally”.. wanting is not enough and that’s why some people go for illegal route. Im not talking about Mexicans here.. You can’t go and become “legal”. That’s not how it works.

What a joke, from the moment you quoted me you went off into left field. I gave you my personal experience and an opinion on the length, and you call B.S. - what a tool. Then someone tries to tell you that it isn't cut and dry, and you call B.S. on them too... double tool.

Then I quote shit from the pages you posted, and you tell me I'm wrong ... Ha!

It's just funny, you spewed off about application processing times as if that's all the time it takes... good lord, either you're a total idiot or a raging douche bag.

Please tell me you're staying in Canada....

You are CLEARLY a douche. I could care less if you have a trailer here. It is also stupid to call people a racist unless you know them personally. As for calling me a bitch, I would expect nothing less from your ugly, fat assed self. You seem to be a bitter man. They have already been confirmed as being illegals. You would know that if you lived here and watched the news. :2 cents:

I really don’t give a rats ass about your PERSONAL experience. The average timeline for Canadian immigration to process family based application is 6 month. In the US its 6 years. Canada processes work based applicants in 12 month whereas US doesn’t even have a IMMIGRANT category or work related immigration. Instead we have an H-1 temporary work visa that can be extended for up to 7 years. Which part of it don’t you understand, tool…
Yes it takes 12 month to get Canadian shit processed, then you have 6 month to move to Canada. They will stamp your passport on the border and you’re done. Your “green card” will arrive within 90 days. THAT’S IT. That’s how its done in Canada. In the US you wait for 6 years for “priority date” to come, that’s when they open your immigration case for you. Like I said, stop wasting my time, dumb ass.
I should have put you on ignore right after you stated that landed immigrants don’t have a work visa… ofcourse they don’t moron, they are legal immigrants, and immigrants don’t need a visa. You win my 'idiot of the month' nomination.
No wonder you had a hard time convincing Canadians that you deserve to be their. If there was a Republic of Stupids somewhere in the world you’d be deported there in no time.

He was a drug smuggler. Ofcourse he was illegal. Its not like he was going to drive thru post with valid visa.
Plenty of drugs are smuggled in to US from Canada as well. How many Americans drug mules get busted every year?

Great, I didn't ask you to comment on my personal experience, but you did..

And again, we aren't talking processing time or some new method again - only you are. You seen to need help with subject jumps, let me help put you back on track, we were talking about people that moved to Canada, ie: Illegals that become landed immigrants/citizens.

Then some how you twisted it like 10 retarded directions with every reply.


Ok? So I was correct, but I should have maybe said they have "Immigrant Visas" - Instead of saying the bullshit you spewed "immigrants don't need a visa" - when they clearly get issued one. You like to mix up terms so I'm making sure I'm quoting sources now.

Please put me on ignore... it will make me damn happy to know I won't have to reply to your stupid ass anymore.

They were never illegal. They applied for immigrant status and started new life in a new country – Canada. How were they illegal? WTF are you talking about?


Ok, dumbo.. lets go over this again
Here's what you said.
What the fuck are you talking about? "because they aren't citizens and don’t have work visa”..

Landed immigrant has same rights as citizen, except for voting. Period. They don’t have to work. They can get on social welfare, unless they immigrated to Canada thru “skilled worker” program..
Keep their status they have to work? More bullshit. Landed immigrants don’t need to work to keep his status. However they DO have to live in Canada for 3 out of 4 years to be eligible for Canadian citizenship.
“Must apply gain”… Apply for what?
Idiot.

Who? Anyway... Canada has illegals... Wiki says "35000 and 120000 illegal immigrants are in Canada"



The immigrant to Canada, isn't a citizen and doesn't have a work visa - it's true. But they can apply for, Immigrant Visa's which aren't just instant and is what allows them to work, if they become legal.



Yep, exactly what I said...



So I can just pack my bags up, drive into Canada, stay for a period of time, apply for landed immigrant status, get on the welfare system and never work again?

Sweet... a retirement plan for all Americans when our SS fund dries up.... that's SMRT thinking Canaduh.


Didn't I say if they want to keep the status they have to apply again? I think so.... and didn't I say I was just repeating what the Website said? I think so again....

"How long is a permanent resident visa valid? A permanent resident visa is issued for a period not exceeding the earlier of he expiry date of the medical results for you and your family members or the expiry date of your or your family members’ passport."

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...des/3999E2.asp

I just took that as meaning you had to apply again, sounds like it has an expire date to me.


Go beat your drums some place else...

America needs to put big ass signs up along the Mexican border...

"Keep Moving North to Canada. Canada gives you Free Medical and Free Welfare with no bitching and After Some Time You Can Vote!"

or

"Mantenga Mover al norte a Canadá. ¡Canadá da usted Liberta Médico y Liberta el Bienestar con ningún bitching y Después De Que algún tiempo Usted Pueda Votar!"

At least they can read the speed limit signs.

The only drun here is your empty brain. The visa that they are talking about us the time between your case approval date by Canadian immigration authority and the day you have to move to Canada permanently . You don’t have a slightest idea what you are talking about !!!! They give you 180 days to MOVE . That’s what they are talking about. Once you cross the border with proper paper work, you get a stamp in you’re passport that you have been processed. With in 180 days you get plastic card with you picture on it saying that you’re legal permanent resident.

read at the bottom.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...pply-after.asp

And? was I talking about illegals or or people that want to be LEGAL immigrants andget their stuff processed prior to entering Canada. Don;t you be weaseling your way out.

For the 100’s time NO. You can only do that if you immigrate to Canada as a political refugee or on family based case. If you move to Canada under skilled worker program you can not get on a welfare system . That’s what skilled worker is about. You trade skills ARE IN DEMAND according to Canadian immigration. This means you can find a job. Being stupid is NOT in demand, so don’t even try it.
Lets be honest here, you don’t have a clue what landed immigrant, temporary work visa or being illegal about. You got it all mixed up in one. Please STFU.

Just saw on the news that Sheriff Joe just busted a drop house in Mesa last night.....24 illegals and found a stolen SUV in the backyard. :thumbsup

Yep, these people never do anything wrong......riiight! Glad to see one official is doing something about this issue

Thats perfectly legit "probable cause" to crush the party. Asking someone for proof of his legal status based on his looks, accent or non-Saxon last name isn't.

Dude, shut the fuck up.... straight up. I quoted a website, and you say the Canadian Gov website is wrong - then post some totally off the wall spewing shit like the above..

Your mind must be so blown on drugs, the only answer that makes any logic.



Hahaha, who said work? Screw that you made it sound like I can just drive to Canada, give up on life, and they will just take me in like perfect little people, in about 9 weeks.. No worries I will drag my wife and kids along..

Dude, of course your full of shit...


That's what gave me the this brilliant idea - instead of the bridge to nowhere - I say we build it From Mexico straight into Canada - Pile that place up with a ton of "family" based cases. Basically send our shit straight to you.


Do I get another comment back from how you this won't work because they aren't some moon immigrant or some stupid spewing shit?

Sweet.

But those busts aren't due to the new law... Joe has been kicking butt well before the new law was drafted.

Are you fucking blind or what? here's what is says. straight from canadian Immigration site

This exactly what I was telling your stupid ass since page 2.
Once you arrive your document will be stamped with "Landed Immigrant" stamp and off you go.


Numbnut, I told you that you can apply for Canadian immigrant status in Buffalo, NY office or in canadian consulates abroad and your application will be reviewed with in 9 month period or a bit longer if you're in certain countries. Thats wat i said.
i never said anything about dragging your welfare wife and your kids to canadian border.
God, you have to be the stupidest mofo on this board. I mean THE STUPIDEST.

No doubt, but I am glad he still has the balls to do his job...unlike the politicians we have in office now.

I just saw on the news about this family crying and moaning that their parents came here 12 years ago(illegally), during that 12 years of living here illegally, the parents had 10 children during that span of time. Now the children (anchor babies) are all upset that their parents might be sent back to mexico. I am sure the citizens of this country paid for all 10 of those anchor babies and maybe it's time these parents start paying back the money they stole form the citizens of this country to pay for the birth of their kids....:2 cents:

Well, no shit sherlock! They pushed and used the system to it's max and finally got caught....now they are wining and crying about it.
Good rule of thumb, if you take a gamble (illegally), it's bound to catch up to you later!

Adios mofo's :winkwink:

That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day... Do you really think that illegal aliens actually go to a gun store and buy their guns? Anti-gun legislation doesn't stop bad guys from getting guns.. it only stops law abiding citizens who follow the law.

Get a grip!
Sonny!

It's sad when peps bring racism into everything..... It's not about race its about border control. We need to establish a efficient a means (department) that will quickly qualify/screen and promptly issue visas to laborers (of any nationality) for work in the US. It takes too long currently. We need the laborers, but we also need to control access.

I was pointing that out to Aaron who claims I was racist for stating they were illegals when the first article stated suspected illegals. I knew the rest of you were smart enough to know they were illegals, which they were. They now refer to them as illegals, not suspected illegals.

Damn Nikki, you wake up early. Sheriff Joe rocks. He is the only person that actually enforces the laws and busts illegals.