hey what the fuck did i do to warrant this? so fucking what if the thread topic was loaded, i am getting the response i needed and shit is moving forward.

if anyone needs to understand why so many people here think you are a douchebag shitstain, they only need look at your 2 posts in this thread.

no, i did not. depending on the replies i receive over the next few days, i will send info to you.

:thumbsup

so what if it was loaded?

how about you give me the urls to your sites and i post all over the internet loaded topics to get feedback from people? how would you like it when someone DIRECTLY bashes your business with loaded questions? i bet you wouldnt.

why should i give a fuck what people who are douche bag shit stains think of me?

these are the type of idiots who will fuck over their best friend then make a 10 page thread for 1000s to view it. FUCK YOU IDIOTS.

maybe if you werent such a jerk off designers would be begging to work with you? my phone is always on im always around. why should people be around to respond to you? what do you mean to them? is it the designers fault that you dont matter? fuck off already!

penny pinching jerk offs who expect the world but want to invest nothing in it. HILARIOUS

where are you coming up with this stuff, man! it's like a switch was flipped somehow and you are just going on & on.

i mean, fuck dude, first, there wasn't a bit of whining in this thread, loaded, sure but no whining. but never the fuck mind that, you're gonna rant about the guys who whine about designers.

designers look for work here, i have no probs trying to send some there way, i make a *loaded* thread to get peeps moving on it and that makes me some sort of shit head? got it.


fuck, i could go on about how far out in left field you are on this, but what's the point, it's obvious to those reading the thread

and you certainly didn't sort it out when you've randomly gone off on others whom you know nothing about.

I guess zero.

hey man no lack of love! i wouldnt say a bad word to anyone ever about you. i dont know you enough, you are entitled to your opinion and i am to mine. no hard feelings from my end. im just a lil straight up i guess you could say lol.

i just will do what i have to do to stick up for designers because no one else does. designers are easy to hate on and i just have to put in my word where it belongs.

doesnt mean i dislike you or think your opinion is wrong, i may not agree with it but that's your opinion and i will do my best to respect it. :thumbsup

no one ever talks about the great site they got made, or how well their conversions have gone up with design change. it is always negative like we are rats mooching off the industry lol. and it does tick me off! so many 14hour days spent with 0 love, the last thing i want to hear is hate!

Theres a new designer Sheriff in town...

Yeah dude, I wanna work with YOU now. Jesus. What a joke you are. Being a DOUSCHEBAG and claiming you're THE MAN? Right. Let's SEE some of these great designs you do? I'll bet you $1000 Canadian that they suck balls, make SHIT and the "bank" you're "laughing all the way to" is probably a sperm bank.

Talk about a fucktard.

I've hired 4 designers here on GFY and were happy with 3 of them. The designs were great, they worked fast, responded to my own design suggestions, and improved my sales and the overall look of my network. But when a "designer" - if that's what you are - goes on and on ranting like a frickin' LOONY then there's something wrong with YOU, my friend. Maybe you just need to get laid.

well, i don't see where i was hating. in fact, i only see where i am trying to give people here business. yeah, i came up with a title that was loaded but the bottomline is that i am on a timeline- my timeline and i needed this to move forward and the title is a perfectly respectful way to attract designers ready to go.

not sure what type of design you need .... but if you're looking for a really good paysite design at a great price contact dwb's bro , nate, [email protected] . if you need a tgp, blog, tube etc krissy at kdadult.com is great !

tia

see, that's the part that really makes no sense to me. the dude comes here and shits in my thread about my *whining* about designers and he's in here playing captain save a designer talking down about designers the whole time.

i mean seriously. :upsidedow

:thumbsup thanks!

One of the cleanest most efficient designers, if not the best I've met here. I won't even lie, I can't afford to touch the level of work MetaMan does. If you don't know, you shouldn't be talking. If he wants to talk about being a "big man" at design, he has every right.

You want to test a designer's level of skill, throw them at a big $ mainstream project. I'll tell you right now 99% of the designers in adult can't do a mainstream design for shit...

The percentage of "designers" here who can claim that they've got clients who will relocate them to complete a job in person on location in adult is pretty fucking slim... :2 cents:

Well, two things Mr. Cat:

1. You're right about his work, I just looked. But someone as good as MetaMan shouldn't be so fucking INSECURE that he has to go ranting and raving like a loony bird. Maybe it's drugs, who knows? But people with skillz don't have to defend themselves in the way he chose to do.
2. Adult and mainstream ARE two differant animals in that what motivates someone to buy an adult membership - his dick is hard & he wants to orgasm NOW - are not the same parameters as in mainstream. So design is important but it's never "the key". "The Key" is the product you're selling. Design can "get in the way" but it shouldn't be the whole enchilada, if that makes sense.

So perhaps the OP shoud've been more clear that he was looking for a mianstream project from an adult designer, but it's fucking Saturday and I'm inclined to cut people who ACT DECENTLY on this board a little slack. MetaMan may BE "the man" but he's not coming across that way in this thread.

fuck yeah :1orglaugh :pimp

So you want a cheap designer for your mainstream project then? It's good that you came to GFY then, there's lots of cheap designers here. Cheap, I mean REAL cheap. And the prices aren't as expensive as Mainstream either.

Rule of Thumb: If someone is marketing their "Design" services on GFY, they can't get any real work, and NEED your money to pay for their hut, or broken trailer, or they are going to outsource the work, in which case you are paying too much for the cheap work you get back. So if Cheap is what you need, you have come to the right place.

Damn. That's kinda venomous.

cool thanks! it's funny people assume i haven't sought RFQs from mainstream designers but hey, it's gfy. i plan to market this product via adult websites, in addition to mainstream traffic.
i want to see how adult designers handle the requirements.

People always project their own experiences onto others. Even I do so sometimes (sorry). There are all kinds of designers here on GFY "al capone" - expensive ones, 'cheap' ones, good ones, bad ones, reliable ones, flakes, those that can do both adult and mainstream, or just adult....

MetaMan says he ain't cheap, Zuzanna ain't 'cheap', Czarina ain't 'cheap', there are plenty of others who will charge $1000+ for a simple two-three page design. So if you're thinking about promoting this mainstream thing along with Adult then I think you made the right choice coming to GFY. Kind of like a crossroads. I'm also sure you have enough intelligence to look outside of GFY for your design needs and, being unsatisfied (not DISsatisfied) you figured you'd try here.

Why all the bashing? I don't get it. And yes, I bash in defense of someone who doesn't even know me, or prolly like me, or who thinks I, myself, am a dousche. Just standing up for someone seeking to HIRE someone, and in this financially-troubled times that's a GOOD thing. At least, better than begging for money/work, that is. :)

Good luck with your search.

thanks! this is a nutrition product i've been working on with my mom. due to that, i do not want anything at all co-mingled with my current adult businesses.

but i do see that the product might get traction if marketed uniquely in this space and that's what i am going for here, i didn't think i needed to include all that in the op.

anyhoo, i hope it works!

Granted, I'm not technically "marketing" my services here. No junk in my signature, no avatar, no threads about "Special Deals!" or any of that. I'm just kinda.... here.

But I can't think of a single client I've ever had that would describe me as "Cheap".
I outsourced one project in my life, 8 years ago.
I have neither hut nor trailer.

He does good work. So does Nate.

I'm not cheap, but I work with all my clients through the project to assure the end result converts. I offer unlimited changes until my clients are 100% happy. I'm available via phone, Skype or e-mail 7 days a week from 6am est-9pm est.

I have a forum to manage all my clients and I find it to be the most successful way to keep quotes, projects and changes all in one central location. It?s composed of hundreds of private forums for my clients. Once you sign up, I will set you up your own private forum that only you and I can view. This is where I leave links for design previews so they don't get lost in emails or icq's. You are also notified by email whenever I leave a post so you know there is activity. I add all final psds, fonts and zips there in case you need to access them in the future as well.

dyna mo take a look at my site, if you like my style shoot me an e-mail we can chat about your design needs.

Thanks, John.

P.S.: I feel like i need a list o f designers posted somewhere, those who live off this biz not hiding in moms basement.

Thanks on a good word.

That's a good system. I thought about switching to something like that. (still thinking actually).

I have something similar. I have a fully customized Client Extranet Repository, for each client. Each client receives a protected subdomain at [redacted]. The main client area lists projects grouped by network / category, has extranet updates & information, downloadable client brief template, and studio status indicator. (Online or Offline)

There is also a Code Base and an archive of news & updates. (wikis & calendar sync with the studio available by request).

The Project files (pages) contain everything that is involved in a particular project. Photoshop comps, coded file comps, creatives, fonts, content library, studio recommendations, downloads, isolated 300dpi vector logos, watermarks, galleries, banners, Flash projects,? the works.

All in a beautifully master-crafted, fully searchable, clean, professional atmoshpere style, secure site that any executive would be proud to house his fleet of advertising weapons. (I can also write copy). Your project data is secure in our studio vault, backed up on Caviar Black HDDs in a secure rackmount data cluster.

The studio uses primarily Macs, but I dev test in the latest of Safari, FireFox, Opera, and IE8 in Windows 7 and Windows Vista, as well as OS X. (specific alternate browsers on request).

I use standard Adobe file formats for the design source and use Wacom Cintiq 21ux InterActive Displays for absolute precision.

We (I) are Broken Zombie. And I rock.

Okay, now you're just braggin'. LOL WOW!

sorry, i got carried away at the end there.... lol

All emails replied to brother. :)

did I over do it and kill the thread? Or is everyone just out because it's Saturday and I'm the only loser still posting after 6 pm because I have no life?

If any of you designers have designed on Thesis, hit me up. Looking for a few designs.

You've oviously never hired from DP. :1orglaugh

LOL I'm still here. I have a broken foot and some cash on the NBA playoffs to keep me awake past 8pm. Let's go Lebron James.

If you don't meet the criteria mentioned above, then my post isn't referring to you. :)

That's your opinion. Oh, wait, you were referring to your price. Correct, you are overpriced for sure, but you gotta make some sort of a margin on those Philipinos, right? That's just my opinion though.

aaah, I just referred someone to you a few minutes ago :)

Just realized it's $650 for logo and integration. LOL WHAT

And $1000 for custom? LOL.

thread turned funnay

well.. fris had a hookup i think doing blog design and integration (WP) for 120 or 250 not sure exactly - excellent price, very cheap imho. quality is subjective, so doesn't matter what I think about quality. how much time you think 120-250 can cover of design, slicing, integration and project management?

its all good an dandy.

custom - it takes 1-2 days to produce concept and logo - hopefully with minimal changes after which can take some time - still its taking time.. then have to account if first concept won't be approved and lets say whole thing is demanded to be redone from scratch - can't predict how much time it will take to get an approved concept - can be fast or can take whatever, prices usually based on average time it takes to produce similar jobs overall (btw I'm NOT commenting Zuzana's prices and production). then create rest of pages (blogs are simpler not many unique page templates) then depending on amount of pages and complexity of design it can take from 1-2 days to several days to slice html - two page blog is simple so lets say 1 day job, then integration another 1-2days.. so over all before job starts 1 week must be reserved for the whole process and sometimes it takes longer (it is simpler with blogs as i said before) but its still 1 week job - you demanding someone dedicate full time, making sure your project moving without hickups, going back and forth with modifications and you laugh at 1k cost??? LOL

i know some jobs are simple and there is possibility to create themed blog in 1-4hours - change some colors here and there, some more styling, plaster 20min logo change bg and you set and go. - that probably costs 120-250 altogether. - some cater these kind of jobs, others take design more seriously, and there is demand for both types of approaches. just don't laugh at something you may not understand for what it takes to satisfy you guys. :2 cents:

^^ time estimations based around average time of good productive forces and not absolute, some may work faster some may work slower. I maybe off on some points, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

:thumbsup i'll be here captain