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Barefootsies 05-18-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Why (Post 17150578)
i think what your doing is certainly working in the right direction and i think both your hearts are in the right place.

Agreed.

I think Damian does a good job making some educated arguments as well. He posts on some other industry boards, and some of the discussions are always fairly thought provoking at times.

Robbie 05-18-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Why (Post 17150578)
robbie: good luck "nailing" someone who put a video on bit-torrent that they stream ripped off your site that has an IP on it once in a while. i doubt any court in the world would let that stand. tooo many variables, remember in court, its not what you know its what you can prove. and thats not "proof" of anything.

The vid has their username and IP showing at random. I have all their info in NATS. Name, home address, etc. I think that is enough to make a person think twice before doing a screen recording and uploading the vid to a pirate site.

ottopottomouse 05-18-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Why (Post 17150578)
i think what your doing is certainly working in the right direction and i think both your hearts are in the right place.

robbie: good luck "nailing" someone who put a video on bit-torrent that they stream ripped off your site that has an IP on it once in a while. i doubt any court in the world would let that stand. tooo many variables, remember in court, its not what you know its what you can prove. and thats not "proof" of anything.

I think the IP Address is more of a deterrent to your average clueless sharer than a see-you-in-court thing.

ottopottomouse 05-18-2010 11:22 AM

Shit didn't notice was another page now I sound like a drunk parrot :(

Robbie 05-18-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17150702)
I think the IP Address is more of a deterrent to your average clueless sharer than a see-you-in-court thing.

Absolutely. Plus the username and the knowledge that since you joined the site, I know who you are and where you live as part of what I can tell the authorities.

But those are the kinds of things that our members don't even think about.

The ONLY person who is going to be worried about that is the one in a thousand who might be looking to steal our content. They are the only ones who would be interested in doing a screen recording. I already give them a downloadable version of the scene for personal use.

The screen recording is never going to look as good as the download I already give them. So the only reason to screen record the stream would be to get a copy with bigger dimensions to put up on a pirate site. It's a definite deterrent to a thief.

But to our members? They don't even notice it. Why would they?

It's just like everything else in this world. When you go to Walmart, do you spend all your time staring at the security cams that are watching your every move? Or do you just shop for what you want? Well, the THIEVES are definitely watching those security cams and worried about them and trying to figure ways around. Normal people who are legitimately shopping don't even notice it.

It's all about intent in that regard.

Anyway, all I can tell you people is this...it works. I wouldn't do anything that would COST me money. Everything I do MAKES me money. If something doesn't work, I stop doing it. When something does work, I continue. Again, this ain't rocket science.

The law of supply and demand ALWAYS takes precedence. If people on GFY believe me, cool. If they don't, I don't care. I'll live my lifestyle and continue to move forward and make money and give CM's fans exactly what they want.

Davy 05-18-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17148830)
No standard methods work, and YOU do not understand how RTMPE works at all, it is not the same as a standard flash stream.

You were talking about RTMPE the whole time? Ahahaha.. :1orglaugh
Your videos can be screen-recorded like anything else. Next thing you tell me is that you can protect images from being downloaded locally... :1orglaugh

fuzebox 05-18-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17150225)
I see no proof that any of the time Robbie, or anyone, spent removing/"protecting" content has boosted income. People that infringe copyright are not (imho) a lost sale.

My biggest problem with piracy is that the torrent and tube sites rank higher in search engines than legitimate sites for the paysites name. The people who steal the movies would have never bought anyway, but now that you can search for a model's name and there are 5 full length tube sites or torrent sites in the top 10 search results, you are losing sales from potential buyers :2 cents: This is a shift that just happened in the last couple of years with the stolen content sites steamrolling the SERPS.

LickMyBalls 05-18-2010 01:29 PM

One could also argue that the border should be open as illegal immigration cannot be stopped. We should also tell all the police agencies, worldwide, to stop busting drug dealers because it cannot be stopped. :thumbsup


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