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ASW 05-17-2010 12:34 PM

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gideongallery 05-17-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17147408)
Wouldn't that be something? An actual user submitted porn tape that they shot themselves and then decided to put up on a tube site for free. Does one even exist anywhere? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

That's the funny thing. It's not like those sites have thousands of "user submitted" content (meaning user CREATED) and every once in a while a "real" porn vid that doesn't belong to the uploader slips in.

Nope, it's ALL stolen content with ZERO user created content. Hardly a "free speech" issue.

That's why gideongallery switches his argument back and forth between "censorship" and "time shifting" Whichever one fits his love of thieves at the moment.

says the guy who claims that the only way the fair use of parody would allow the use of his content is to not use his content at all.

:error:error:error

by your definition of fair use your right

luckly for me/fair use the court have ruled that simply changing adding comedic subtitles to someone elses video clip is more than enough to qualify as parody

see downfall parodies.

oh and btw timeshifting is for torrents

commentary (as in check you quest crews best dance routine) covers tube sites.
you might want to get the appropriate fair use for the medium.

Robbie 05-17-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17148087)
says the guy who claims that the only way the fair use of parody would allow the use of his content is to not use his content at all.

:error:error:error

by your definition of fair use your right

luckly for me/fair use the court have ruled that simply changing adding comedic subtitles to someone elses video clip is more than enough to qualify as parody

see downfall parodies.

oh and btw timeshifting is for torrents

commentary (as in check you quest crews best dance routine) covers tube sites.
you might want to get the appropriate fair use for the medium.

As I said...wouldn't it be something if people actually CREATED stuff and uploaded it for free. As in shot their own footage just like a REAL parody skit on Saturday Night Live does. And yes, there are some funny ones on youtube using stolen footage. No doubt the Hitler one is funny as hell.

But would the movie producer be laughing if they used the ENTIRE movie, overdubbed new words, then MONETIZED it and called it "parody"

Once again you're avoiding what is REALLY going on with piracy and the adult industry.

craftyc 05-17-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17146790)
There were no tubes in 2000, I am referring to tube sites, nothing else here if read correctly.

Yes but adapting is a universal thing and many of the people who started this business are not here and others adapted went onto flourish. Anyone here remember "The General" he went on to found fabulous domains. I worked for him in the early days and he was making millions a month, last time I looked at his stats about 2000, he was clearing 12 million a month after paying advertisers. I doubt few people these days would be making millions a month in Porn. I could be wrong though. He saw the writing on the wall and moved on while he was still making the good bucks. Some people see whats around the corner and move and adapt. Other Die.

craftyc 05-17-2010 05:27 PM

Actually I am wrong AFF makes millions a month and thats just a porn site when you boil it down.

will76 05-17-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by craftyc (Post 17148675)
Actually I am wrong AFF makes millions a month and thats just a porn site when you boil it down.

There are more than a few companies and larger sites that make 1M + a month.

XXXMovie4M 05-17-2010 06:06 PM

try stealing from a store and tell them they can get their product back if they send you a request in writing. and if i get caught i can tell them they need to adapt?

if everyone really believes the "adapt or die" motto then when is everyone pissed at tubes. that's their way of "adapting"...right?

can't well all steal from each other and claim that we're adapting?

the authorities can't do anything about content theft but does that mean you broke into vivid's DVD wharehouse you can steal as much as you want without getting charged?

XXXMovie4M 05-17-2010 06:10 PM

try stealing from a store and tell them they can get their product back if they send you a request in writing. and if i get caught i can tell them they need to adapt?

if everyone really believes the "adapt or die" motto then when is everyone pissed at tubes. that's their way of "adapting"...right?

can't we all steal from each other and claim that we're adapting? we can all understand that right?

will76 12-15-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17147133)
I respect you and I think you are a very knowledgeable, If our Cams Sales stayed the way they are right now, I would be very happy. I'm not trying to be the next Cams.com,
If you want a job working out of our offices, I could arrange that, but we don't outsource work.

This post had nothing to do with Cams, it had to do with you don't need to start a tube site or else close your doors. That's All.

If I wanted any advice regarding our Cams Site, you would be by far the first and only person I would talk to.

you tried to start a tube site and failed.

you should have gotten advice from someone for your cams site, and other projects you were working on and not rode Cyberage into the ground. If you would have put more effort into your cam site it could have made up for the lost sales that the AVS sites was having.

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17775735)
you tried to start a tube site and failed.

Not the Bump old threads game. How old are you. 4?
Who cares, you failed in Life. You have Nothing to show for everything you have worked for.
Stop bumping old threads Will. Grow Up already.

will76 12-15-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775741)
Not the Bump old threads game. How old are you. 4?
Who cares, you failed in Life. You have Nothing to show for everything you have worked for.
Stop bumping old threads Will. Grow Up already.

Now I am a failure? A couple days ago you said you respected me and thought I was great. Now I am a failure? what happened to make me a failure, because I bumped some of your threads ?

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17775754)
Now I am a failure? A couple days ago you said you respected me and thought I was great. Now I am a failure? what happened to make me a failure, because I bumped some of your threads ?

I still respect you for trying to make it in this business, but doesn't mean you're still not a failure.

How do you feel about yourself for bumping old threads to attack me. Does that make you sleep better at night? Do you feel like a Man. A tough man?

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17775735)
you tried to start a tube site and failed.

Lets see, I spent $1500.00 on a Tube site script which including design, I own all the content. And I'm pretty sure I made more then $1500.00 on it. SO ACTUALLY, it's not considered a failure.

Again, you need that Business Class.

96ukssob 12-15-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17146334)
Adapt or die doesn't mean you need to make an illegal tube.

exactly :thumbsup

surfers don't want to have to download 30 second clips to their computer anymore, then want to click and play, just like they are used to on YouTube when they have both hands on the keyboard :winkwink:

same went for TGP's back in the day versus "free sites." there will always be illegal tubes and maybe one day they will slowly get shut down, but if you want to compete in the space, you have to think outside the box.

crying isn't going to get you anywhere

seeric 12-15-2010 12:19 PM

this thread time shifted itself.


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