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Grapesoda 05-17-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17147060)
Where did you study law ? If i jaywalk and a cop pulls out a gun and starts shooting at me and instead kills some kid, are you telling me i am responsible because i was jaywalking? not gonna happen.

While laws vary from state to state in detroit in order to charge the grandmother , she would have to have been committing a felony not a misdemeanor.

why are the cops throwing a flash bang to execute a search? why is the 'grandmother' attacking an armed cop? the reality is the cops weren't at my house executing a search warrant for murder with draw weapons and flash bang grenades.

chances are the brothers will burn down what's left of Detroit over this anyway...was the cop black or white?

if a cop is arresting me for jaywalking and I jump the cop and try and take his gun, it goes off and kills 'you' walking by.. yes it is my fault and I will be charged with murder and you're relatives will sue the crap out of me and the cops..

baddog 05-17-2010 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17147068)
she was an honour roll student fyi

Not to take away from the tragedy, but most 7 year-olds are honor students.

Raf1 05-17-2010 08:33 AM

sad story. These things happen...

beerptrol 05-17-2010 08:43 AM

I'll wait til the full report comes out. I saw the story on the local news and they said there might have been a scuffle which caused the gun to go off, details were still sketchy. Tragic either way

_Richard_ 05-17-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 17146616)
Funny how these two points were completely missed in the news report.

good eye..

did you catch this:

"In addition, a vehicle and a moped matching the descriptions of those involved in Blake's shooting were also found, he said"

This is not 'in addition', this is the premise they used to get a search warrant so they could flashbang a house, get into a fight with a grandmother, and then accidentally shoot 1 round into a childs head. A car and a moped 'matching descriptions'.

Sly 05-17-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17147172)
good eye..

did you catch this:

"In addition, a vehicle and a moped matching the descriptions of those involved in Blake's shooting were also found, he said"

This is not 'in addition', this is the premise they used to get a search warrant so they could flashbang a house, get into a fight with a grandmother, and then accidentally shoot 1 round into a childs head. A car and a moped 'matching descriptions'.

Sounds like pretty standard procedure to me. That is far more than coincidence.

Very tragic about the little girl, those team members will probably not sleep for a long, long time.

_Richard_ 05-17-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17147178)
Sounds like pretty standard procedure to me. That is far more than coincidence.

Very tragic about the little girl, those team members will probably not sleep for a long, long time.

i might be mistaken, is it acceptable for swat teams to enter houses when there is obviously children present?

Cyber Fucker 05-17-2010 09:09 AM

fuck the police





:(

leedsfan 05-17-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 17146684)
I'd have to say that until you do their job then it's hard to judge them. It's a shame a child was killed in a situation like this but there was obviously a reason the gun was out. Cops don't just pull their guns for no reason.

I'm sure after a bit of time we will find out if it was purely the cops fault or not.

if it was your child you would not be so passive with your comment. It's a total tragedy. Anytime a kid loses their life, it's a very sad day.

Forget who was to blame...loss of life is tragic when its innocent.

MaDalton 05-17-2010 09:19 AM

after reading some of the comments i must say that this world has become a very cold place. just shrugging when a kid gets shot is something that does not work with what my parents taught me

Barefootsies 05-17-2010 09:30 AM

Tragic is an understatement. Especially for a child.

Unfortunately will not be the last.

Bird 05-17-2010 09:31 AM

Well of course it's Detroit

just a punk 05-17-2010 09:35 AM

I "love" that country more and more.

bronco67 05-17-2010 09:36 AM

Why does it always happen to the "honor student"?

Couldn't they just once accidentally kill "the neighborhood bully douchebag?"

baddog 05-17-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17147187)
i might be mistaken, is it acceptable for swat teams to enter houses when there is obviously children present?

Of course it is, otherwise criminals would begin breeding like rabbits, just for the cover.

dyna mo 05-17-2010 09:51 AM

old detroit needs a new sheriff in town-

http://dietrichthrall.files.wordpres...07/robocop.jpg

Karupted Charles 05-17-2010 09:59 AM

As Father and a person that lives just outside Detroit this is something that has been discussed around my friends and home allot. Let me point soem thing out to bring it into perspective.

1. The family was housing a murder suspect in a very publicized case.

2. The child was in the living room at 2 am not in her room.

3. The family resisted arrest.

The fact is its not the child or the cops fault. It is 100% the piece of crap parents. If they had simply been good parents in one of 3 events this would not have happened.

1. Dont let criminals stay at your home. Dont give me the they didn't know the older brother was a murderer parents will know if kids are in gangs or committing crimes if they pay any attention to their kids.


2. I have a 5 year old and honestly I feel like im failing on my job when I let him watch Wall-e till 11:30 in his room. There is sure in hell no way I let him sleep on the couch at 2 am. Children need boundaries.

3. Dont resiste arrest. Police are not judges, prosecutors or juries. The time to clear things up is after the situation is calmed down and your int he prosecutors office or the jail house or at least after the warrant is executed. If you resiste arrest you deserve what happens. I have been wrongfully detained before and searched under suspicion only to be let go as soon as they realize it is a mistake. A few minutes of lost time waiting for cops to smarten up has saved me night in jail for resisting.

It's easy to blame the cops but the fact is here in detroit it is bad enough with them doing there job if we tie there hands more or dont have them I can guarantee Anarchy would not be pretty.

_Richard_ 05-17-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17147296)
Of course it is, otherwise criminals would begin breeding like rabbits, just for the cover.

i sure hope i never have a car that matches descriptions then

would suck if they shot my dog or i mistook them for intruders

media 05-17-2010 10:12 AM

This story brought tears to my eyes. I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter and if this happened to me, if someone mistook my house for another house, or even if someone was staying with me that I did not know they were wanted, and my daughter was killed in the process, the department would be going through hell fury.

Amputate Your Head 05-17-2010 10:27 AM

I'm surprised the fucking pigs didn't tase the little girl first, then shoot her.

Detroit should riot over this. Oakland sure as fuck would. Oakland would be burning to the ground right now if that shit happened. :2 cents:

Karupted Charles 05-17-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by media (Post 17147376)
This story brought tears to my eyes. I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter and if this happened to me, if someone mistook my house for another house, or even if someone was staying with me that I did not know they were wanted, and my daughter was killed in the process, the department would be going through hell fury.

Media, I can sympathies but again your not comparing apples to apples. I was shocked when I first read the report and felt awful and still fill awful for the child but the fact is the more you read up on this you would never jeopardize your daughter like these negligent parents.


1. The cops did not mistake the house it was the right house and the arrested the suspect.

2. I dont see you resisting arrest especially with the life of your daughter at risk.

Mr Happy 05-17-2010 10:36 AM

Time for war! The cops and Gov are not your friends. Just wait til they witch hunt us people in porn!

JP-pornshooter 05-17-2010 10:53 AM

karup charles, well said..
many here dont realize the dangers of living in a criminal environment such as this family did.
i am in LA, often times here we have similar stories, it is very unfortunate that innocent children are in the middle of violence, but the law is establish to protect law abiding citizens, and to pursue and prosecute criminals regardless of the environment they may be hiding out...
sometimes i wish there is a requirement or license required to breed...

MrBottomTooth 05-17-2010 10:59 AM

These idiot cops need to have more regular training with their weapons.

Reminds me of the retard cop around here that fired at someone 19 times and missed every time. Of course his bullets hit a bunch of random houses in the area where people were sleeping.

Also reminds me of this dumb bitch. Oops.


baddog 05-17-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17147430)
I'm surprised the fucking pigs didn't tase the little girl first, then shoot her.

Detroit should riot over this. Oakland sure as fuck would. Oakland would be burning to the ground right now if that shit happened. :2 cents:

Idiotic response. Comes from not paying attention. :2 cents:

Marcus Aurelius 05-17-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17147068)
she was an honour roll student fyi

:1orglaugh

I would love to see the qualifications of being a 7 year old Detroit honour student.



PR_Glen 05-17-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 17147330)
As Father and a person that lives just outside Detroit this is something that has been discussed around my friends and home allot. Let me point soem thing out to bring it into perspective.

1. The family was housing a murder suspect in a very publicized case.

2. The child was in the living room at 2 am not in her room.

3. The family resisted arrest.

The fact is its not the child or the cops fault. It is 100% the piece of crap parents. If they had simply been good parents in one of 3 events this would not have happened.

1. Dont let criminals stay at your home. Dont give me the they didn't know the older brother was a murderer parents will know if kids are in gangs or committing crimes if they pay any attention to their kids.


2. I have a 5 year old and honestly I feel like im failing on my job when I let him watch Wall-e till 11:30 in his room. There is sure in hell no way I let him sleep on the couch at 2 am. Children need boundaries.

3. Dont resiste arrest. Police are not judges, prosecutors or juries. The time to clear things up is after the situation is calmed down and your int he prosecutors office or the jail house or at least after the warrant is executed. If you resiste arrest you deserve what happens. I have been wrongfully detained before and searched under suspicion only to be let go as soon as they realize it is a mistake. A few minutes of lost time waiting for cops to smarten up has saved me night in jail for resisting.

It's easy to blame the cops but the fact is here in detroit it is bad enough with them doing there job if we tie there hands more or dont have them I can guarantee Anarchy would not be pretty.

What a bunch of shit... so is it your brother or your dad who is a cop and you are sticking up for what they do?

It's up to SWAT to assess the situation before moving in.. that includes CHECKING FOR CHILDREN IN THE HOUSE! Because they didn't do that they went ahead and flashbanged it, despite that being against regulations with the presence of children, and went in with one asshole who seemed to be more trigger happy than a 17 year old boy on prom night... Cops are already commenting on it saying that they were in the wrong, but they have you standing up claiming things like 'standard procedure'.

Think about it, what if they did have the wrong house, and they bust into yours instead. Flash banging all your bedrooms and your child was shot in the process. Would you be claiming the same thing? This exact thing happened to my mother. Some moron gave them the wrong address and told them that there was a drug operation going on there and they kicked the doors in and slammed her to the ground and had her hogtied. Being in Canada, she was lucky enough that they don't allow things like flashbang grenades.

bad parents? It wouldn't be the first time that a kid fell asleep on a couch in the living room, and no, not all parents are completely aware of all their kids wrong doings, because that would be IMPOSSIBLE.

kristin 05-17-2010 11:31 AM

While very sad, they were in the house for some reason.

Now if they truly did have the wrong house, that is horrible. But something had to be going on for the cops to be there in the first place.

_Richard_ 05-17-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 17147489)
karup charles, well said..
many here dont realize the dangers of living in a criminal environment such as this family did.
i am in LA, often times here we have similar stories, it is very unfortunate that innocent children are in the middle of violence, but the law is establish to protect law abiding citizens, and to pursue and prosecute criminals regardless of the environment they may be hiding out...
sometimes i wish there is a requirement or license required to breed...

if that is true, what law did the child break?

she was exempt from this protection? cause she's the only one dead

TrainWreckContent 05-17-2010 11:37 AM

that is just fucked up...i know they are just trying to do their job but a a 7 yrs old girl wtf

Karupted Charles 05-17-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17147585)
What a bunch of shit... so is it your brother or your dad who is a cop and you are sticking up for what they do?

Neither. None of my family are cops. As I even stated I have been on the receiving end of a misunderstanding that lead to detention that was later apologized for and I was let go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17147585)
It's up to SWAT to assess the situation before moving in.. that includes CHECKING FOR CHILDREN IN THE HOUSE! Because they didn't do that they went ahead and flashbanged it, despite that being against regulations with the presence of children, and went in with one asshole who seemed to be more trigger happy than a 17 year old boy on prom night... Cops are already commenting on it saying that they were in the wrong, but they have you standing up claiming things like 'standard procedure'.

1. The cops are sorry a kid got shot who would not be?

2. Who said he was trigger happy did you miss the resisting arrest and the fact the mother grappled with the officer?

3. Please show me where I said Standard procedure cause I read it again and I didn't say that. Mainly cause as I am not a cop or a relative of a cop I have no idea what Standard procedure is.

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17147585)
Think about it, what if they did have the wrong house, and they bust into yours instead. Flash banging all your bedrooms and your child was shot in the process. Would you be claiming the same thing? This exact thing happened to my mother. Some moron gave them the wrong address and told them that there was a drug operation going on there and they kicked the doors in and slammed her to the ground and had her hogtied. Being in Canada, she was lucky enough that they don't allow things like flashbang grenades.

bad parents? It wouldn't be the first time that a kid fell asleep on a couch in the living room, and no, not all parents are completely aware of all their kids wrong doings, because that would be IMPOSSIBLE.


Again selective reading would lead you to this conclusion. Ill clarify it again the easiest one. Is dont resist arrest. Do you live in Detroit? Have you seen it recently? To say people live like animals here is an understatement. City blocks sell for under 100K. Houses are being burned down so the starving families can grow vegetables on vacant lots. I have had 2 employes houses with kids inside get shot up due to thats the new gang initiations. This is the shit we have to deal with cause people like this kids older brother want to fit in. Now due to his actions which clearly come from the shitiest parents in the world, has lead to this innocent childs death. There are fingers to point here but its at the pieces of crap in this family not the cops that have the guts to go into these neighborhoods to protect us.

Amputate Your Head 05-17-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17147514)
Idiotic response. Comes from not paying attention. :2 cents:

Aren't the police supposed to be looking out for the interests of innocent people like 7 year-old girls? I suspect that had the police not done things the way they did, she'd still be alive. They were in control. She didn't have to die.

baddog 05-17-2010 11:44 AM

Canadians can be funny.

Arnox 05-17-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 17147330)
As Father and a person that lives just outside Detroit this is something that has been discussed around my friends and home allot. Let me point soem thing out to bring it into perspective.

1. The family was housing a murder suspect in a very publicized case.

2. The child was in the living room at 2 am not in her room.

3. The family resisted arrest.

The fact is its not the child or the cops fault. It is 100% the piece of crap parents. If they had simply been good parents in one of 3 events this would not have happened.

1. Dont let criminals stay at your home. Dont give me the they didn't know the older brother was a murderer parents will know if kids are in gangs or committing crimes if they pay any attention to their kids.


2. I have a 5 year old and honestly I feel like im failing on my job when I let him watch Wall-e till 11:30 in his room. There is sure in hell no way I let him sleep on the couch at 2 am. Children need boundaries.

3. Dont resiste arrest. Police are not judges, prosecutors or juries. The time to clear things up is after the situation is calmed down and your int he prosecutors office or the jail house or at least after the warrant is executed. If you resiste arrest you deserve what happens. I have been wrongfully detained before and searched under suspicion only to be let go as soon as they realize it is a mistake. A few minutes of lost time waiting for cops to smarten up has saved me night in jail for resisting.

It's easy to blame the cops but the fact is here in detroit it is bad enough with them doing there job if we tie there hands more or dont have them I can guarantee Anarchy would not be pretty.

I wish the world was populated with more people such as yourself who are logical and have an ability to think things through.

Everyone else: take your anti-police fallacies somewhere else.

baddog 05-17-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17147649)
Aren't the police supposed to be looking out for the interests of innocent people like 7 year-old girls? I suspect that had the police not done things the way they did, she'd still be alive. They were in control. She didn't have to die.

And if someone grapples with a cop that is holding a loaded gun, what do you think the proper procedure would be? Just leave?

Amputate Your Head 05-17-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 17147655)
I wish the world was populated with more people such as yourself who are logical and have an ability to think things through.

Everyone else: take your anti-police fallacies somewhere else.

bullshit. It is 100% the fault of the police. Preaching moral hindsight is fucking lame. If the pigs can't serve a search warrant without killing little sleeping girls, they need to find another line of work. Maybe the fucking postal service or something.

Sly 05-17-2010 11:48 AM

Question: what would you have the police do if they enter a home to arrest a murderer and were met with resistance and a fight? What should proper protocol be? What should they do? What should the police do to ensure that no child, or dog, is never anywhere to be found near a raid? And if there is a child, or dog, anywhere near a raid... what should be done instead?

Amputate Your Head 05-17-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17147657)
And if someone grapples with a cop that is holding a loaded gun, what do you think the proper procedure would be? Just leave?

So you're actually telling me that the SWAT Team is incapable of gaining control over someone grappling with a cop? What the fuck are they training for? A movie?

Sly 05-17-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17147666)
bullshit. It is 100% the fault of the police. Preaching moral hindsight is fucking lame. If the pigs can't serve a search warrant without killing little sleeping girls, they need to find another line of work. Maybe the fucking postal service or something.

Just the other day you were telling us how people should not be protecting themselves with weapons and instead should be calling the police. Now you are telling us that police are pigs and should not be trusted.

baddog 05-17-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17147672)
So you're actually telling me that the SWAT Team is incapable of gaining control over someone grappling with a cop? What the fuck are they training for? A movie?

Apparently they did gain control, because no cops were killed. You act like the cops busted in there, took aim at the kid and fired.


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