Not good at all for them.

I'm not pointing any fingers.

As someone who lost money when a processor was shut down for doing business with companies that were clearly flouting VISA's rules I say we all need to be vigilant. Anyone excepting uploaded content from anyone who wishes to is clearly running a risk for all of us.

Why are all those ex-gf sites so fucked up beyond belief?
I make sure to stay away from them...

In this thread: producers are butthurt that no one is buy their "Ex-GF" content.

Just been to one of the sites and read the banner headline.

15 000+ GIRLFRIENDS AND GROWING DAILY!

Anyone in the business will tell you the ex GF niche has not been going long enough to make it possible for a site to have 15,000 legal 2257 compliant models. That should of waved a red flag and warranted extra investigation.

Sending their urls to every law enforcement agency in the US :thumbsup

This raises some interesting questions really. At what point is who liable?

If I'm renting my house to someone selling drugs, am I responsable legally? Is the power company or the water company for supporting a drug enterprise?

No but they can seize your house and sell it at auction.

dig deeper youll find out why. there is ALWAYS a reason people do things.

I love this part...

"Later, Doe's co-workers viewed the photos on numerous websites. They told Doe that they saw her in poses on SeeMyGF.com, which subsequently removed the photographs."

I always knew that douchebag had CP on his site. I fucking hate that guy and everything he stands for.

Keep pushing that stolen ex-gf shit, fellas! Way to go!

- PornAddict

Fifty vengeful ex-girlfriends...

Yea, I must say I agree, something isn't right with this post. :disgust

Easy there.

You can't expect a processor to know whether a client site is scraped or not.

this will clearly shake a industry a little bit

Stupid thread.

I really dont think Mutt understood or even read the article before posting. :2 cents:

how is it netbilling's fault?

netbilling is just a gateway not even a processor

if anything it would be the bank that approved the site for visa/mc in the first place at fault here

i didn't say it was Netbilling's fault - not surprising since the average webmaster is working with a GED level education at best. your reading comprehension skills are on a par with your ethics and morals.

I asked Netbilling 'how does it feel to have your company connected/associated with the term CP in the adult press and mainstream press?'. And it's a fair and valid question. The lawsuit does exactly that.

Listen those of us in the teen and solo girl niche know far more about this dirty little secret called EX-GF than any of you know nothings. In fact I think I know who this girl actually is, I was shown her 2 years ago and googled and traced her myspace page - Orlando, Florida.

Ask any EX-GF site owner if they've ever been contacted by an underage girl or their parents about their photos or videos being online - they all have, those that say they haven't are lying or have hidden their contact information.

I have well over 10,000 ex-member emails from my teen solo site which is perfectly targeted towards EX-GF sites - I have upsells in my members area - for the last two years I could have make a little bundle cash sending that traffic to EX-GF sites with a click of a button. BUT I know what those sites are, I know how old many of the girls are - I don't do it. Because it's wrong and in the long run when the national media picks up on the EX-GF porn phenomena and what it's a code phrase for it's absolutely the stupidest move the porn industry has ever made.

1. I think your reading comprehension skills arent the best either.
2. You googled and traced an underage girl? Why?
3. You are a saint. I wish there where more people just like you.

this coming from a guy who has made threads about reading 16 year old girls blog entries while scouting myspace for models

lols at you

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=966925

Your intentions were pretty clear to point a finger at us.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/index.php
 

Your initial title and thread was quite inflammatory and accusatory.

This combined with the above statement: You're an asshole flinging shit at the wall for pageviews.

common sense :2 cents: if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, shouldn't you at least check to make sure it's not a duck ?

These sites get approval from the processor first right ?, considering the content i would assume they ask for some sort of documents at random, so yes the processor should know if the content was scraped.

I would feel a tad uncomfortable ( to say the least ) processing for a site that can't verify its models aren't children regardless of what the law might say.

Tell that to VISA or the bank issuing the merchant account when they pull the account and freeze the money. They do expect a processor to know. How many have been closed down for not knowing?

keep stacking that paper.

Seminole county is not a porn friendly county. Not at all

I sharted from laughter looool

I guess it's easy to look the other way when the money is good... :winkwink:

Exactly right, nobody misunderstood his intentions in this thread but he himself it seems.

do you have something against netbilling? why would you just call out netbilling

Because he is a butthurt moron that has a reading comprehension.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

By asking a biller you get a general idea rather than 1 site who will say blah blah, close and open up the same site on a different domain with another Cyprus Corp.

If Netbilling said 'This is terrible we do not want out company associated with these sort of allegations and will not process any exgf sites without a full check.'

You know where the niche stands billingwise.. nope?

You alive mother fucker? Give me a shout I miss you!

And it'll be a great day when billing companies start asking to see 2257 docs before approving a site. Then they'll be earning the 15% they charge!

Netbilling is a GATEWAY. They don't actually process anything. A bank does. And when we got our merchant accounts the bank went through our sites with a fine tooth comb. Made us change any words they didn't like and even took photos of our office space. It was pretty intense.

Netbilling has nothing to do with any of that. It is the various merchant banks that we all depend on in this business. And for whatever reasons, they decided to process credit cards for those sites.

I'm no expert on foreign merchant banks because we are still at good old Humboldt right here in the US. But I don't think a US merchant bank would allow that stuff.

But anyway, Netbilling has nothing to do with what is on a website. It's the bank that approves or disapproves a merchant account.

Thx for the explanation.. So why are they named in the suit should be the banks nope?

My only guess would be general ignorance about how billing actually works. I wouldn't have known if we didn't have NATS and use cascading billing including our own merchant account with netbilling as the gateway. It's not really something that most people would have knowledge of or care to I suppose.

I'm guessing they just kept clicking on the "join" page and looked at each "biller" One of them shows up as "Netbilling" so they included them.

Pretty typical when attorneys that don't know how a business works try to figure it out. After all it would look like Netbilling is some kind of company like CC Bill at first glance to the "civilian" eye.

does netbilling not look at the site at all? they dont have any sort of approval process for the site?

That's like asking if NATS checks all sites... it isn't going to happen. Netbilling has no legal power to do that or request it, if they did people would just move - something nb can't stop either.