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Domain Diva 06-15-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrah (Post 17249062)
Even when no malice was behind it? I've read up on it and there has to be malice behind it or if you knew it wasn't true but still ran it. Whatever I say I believe is 100% true.

:Oh crap ..you mention you lifted your disclaimer from another site after seeing it in alot of places.....then you reprint/copy articles that are mentioned elsewhere etc....it seems that if you see something done elsewhere it will be ok for you ? ...maybe if they got it wrong ? then you would be screwed as well !

With the type of stories you distribute i would at least retain a lawyer to avoid a future post on gfy from you titled " Shit I just got hit with a $1 million dollar lawsuit "

Just my view...better to be safe than sorry...as it seems you really need one.

pornlaw 06-15-2010 08:21 PM

JustDave -- nice work.

Darrah read his post, re-read it and then memorize it.

You are a target waiting to be shot at -- realize that and govern your actions accordingly. Go ask Luke Ford about defending a libel lawsuit and what it cost him.

Even if you win, you will still be out a minimum of $50,000 just to defend the lawsuit and probably closer to $100,000 in legal fees.

Argos88 06-15-2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17186963)
Here is what needs to happen.

Porn needs to get old school again and start busting fucking knee caps. You steal my shit, I break your fucking leg with a ball bat. Who wants some?

You support those who are pirates, we break your fucking leg too. You also want some?

You want to make us wear rubbers? Which leg do you want us to hit?

OLD SCHOOL is the only way out of this mess. It's gonna have to get ugly.

Try breaking AWEMPIRE's legs, we don't even know who the owner is... Or does somebody know who's the owner of AWEMPIRE?

They support illegal sites all over the net...

To fix this, we don't even need something complex like a LAW, we need sponsors to stop supporting illegal sites and the problem is solved, easy as that.

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Argos88 06-15-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 17187375)

While it's easy to blame the tubes and everything else, the dinosaurs of the video era failed to adapt and are going bye-bye....

What do you mean EXACTLY with "Adapt" ?

Just wondering, I read this "ADAPT" thing everywhere, BUT NOBODY explains what they mean with it.

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Darrah 06-15-2010 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17249988)
Slander and Liable are two torts that involve the communication of false information about a person, a group, or an entity such as a corporation. Libel is any Defamation that can be seen, such as a writing, printing, effigy, movie, or statue. Slander is any defamation that is spoken and heard.


Collectively known as defamation, libel and slander are civil wrongs that harm a reputation; decrease respect, regard, or confidence; or induce disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against an individual or entity. The injury to one's good name or reputation is affected through written or spoken words or visual images. The laws governing these torts are identical.


To recover in a libel or slander suit, the plaintiff must show evidence of four elements: that the defendant conveyed a defamatory message; that the material was published, meaning that it was conveyed to someone other than the plaintiff; that the plaintiff could be identified as the person referred to in the defamatory material; and that the plaintiff suffered some injury to his or her reputation as a result of the communication.


To prove that the material was defamatory, the plaintiff must show that at least one other person who saw or heard it understood it as having defamatory meaning. It is necessary to show not that all who heard or read the statement understood it to be defamatory, but only that one person other than the plaintiff did so. Therefore, even if the defendant contends that the communication was a joke, if one person other than the plaintiff took it seriously, the communication is considered defamatory.


Defamatory matter is published when it is communicated to someone other than the plaintiff. This can be done in several different ways. The defendant might loudly accuse the plaintiff of something in a public place where others are present, or make defamatory statements about the plaintiff in a newsletter or an on-line bulletin board. The defamation need not be printed or distributed. However, if the defendant does not intend it to be conveyed to anyone other than the plaintiff, and conveys it in a manner that ordinarily would prevent others from seeing or hearing it, the requirement of publication has not been satisfied even if a third party inadvertently overhears or witnesses the communication.


Liability for republication of a defamatory statement is the same as for original publication, provided that the defendant had knowledge of the contents of the statement. Thus, newspapers, magazines, and broadcasters are liable for republication of libel or slander because they have editorial control over their communications. On the other hand, bookstores, libraries, and other distributors of material are liable for republication only if they know, or had reason to know, that the statement is defamatory. Common carriers such as telephone companies are not liable for defamatory material that they convey, even if they know that it is defamatory, unless they know, or have reason to know, that the sender does not have a privilege to communicate the material. Suppliers of communications equipment are never liable for defamatory material that is transmitted through the equipment they provide.


In general, there are four defenses to libel or slander: truth, consent, accident, and privilege. The fact that the allegedly defamatory communication is essentially true is usually an absolute defense; the defendant need not verify every detail of the communication, as long as its substance can be established. If the plaintiff consented to publication of the defamatory material, recovery is barred. Accidental publication of a defamatory statement does not constitute publication. Privilege confers Immunity on a small number of defendants who are directly involved in the furtherance of the public's business—for example, attorneys, judges, jurors, and witnesses whose statements are protected on public policy grounds.



In short to answer your question, the absence of malice is no defense. Believing it is true and not using due diligence to verify that what you are writing is true and in fact what you write is not true=fucked! But if what you publish, you believe is true and in fact it is the truth you will be golden.

A perfect example where you put yourself in a bad legal position is when; A female performer calls you saying that this particular producer is a thief, doesn't pay talent, forces female talent to have sex with them, etc and in fact she is lying or has her own agenda and you run that story, she is liable for "slander" and by you writing it up, you are liable for the tort violation of "libel." Her for the "slander" and you for the "republication" of the "defamatory statements" in a libelous form.



Hope this little law lesson helps you out with what ever you choose to write.

Everything I post I believe to be 100% true. I wouldn't write it if I didn't believe it's true. I'm not Perez Hilton who pulls shit out of my ass. There are many things I never run because either there's no proof or I don't believe it.

But can you damage the reputation of anyone who has one of the worst reputations in the industry? I'm also told a lot that this is porn and no one will sue me and how ____ and _____ wouldn't dare risk going to court having everything about them to now be public.

My stalker for the past year just last night emailed a certain porn company CEO and a certain porn agent (guess whiiiiiiiiich agent). The CEO doesn't matter because he already knew what I wrote months ago and even later invited me to his next porn shoot to see how a porn shoot is done. I also ran his replies on the matter. My stalker sent the agent a zip file of everything I ever wrote about him for the past 2 and a 1/2 years. But I'm the one with problems?? Let's just say this certain porn agent has a REALLY bad reputation.

Stalker boy knows this. I even left a porn forum I was on so to get away from him thinking he would get bored. It only got worse and he followed me to Twitter. Then the owner of that porn forum posted my IP number on his forum. It's now that IP number that's now being passed around. D*nny L*ng was either given this IP or he saw it but he's now threatening me too and telling me to pull my stories about him from my blog. I refuse but told him to contact Wordpress if he wants them down. How my blog would then be temporarily suspended until I log in and take down the information.

How can I ruin their reputations, especially the agent's reputation, when people actually in the industry (which I'm not) warn women to stay away from the?

Darrah 06-15-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberClaire (Post 17250025)
:Oh crap ..you mention you lifted your disclaimer from another site after seeing it in alot of places.....then you reprint/copy articles that are mentioned elsewhere etc....it seems that if you see something done elsewhere it will be ok for you ? ...maybe if they got it wrong ? then you would be screwed as well !

With the type of stories you distribute i would at least retain a lawyer to avoid a future post on gfy from you titled " Shit I just got hit with a $1 million dollar lawsuit "

Just my view...better to be safe than sorry...as it seems you really need one.

I had also run the disclaimer through Google to also see if it was a real disclaimer. I liked it because it covered all bases. I checked Google and found it said on other blogs. I also wrote a copyright infringement page which I researched myself linking back to copyright.gov. Last night I showed both the disclaimer and the copyright infringement pages to someone knowledgeable in this field and he started laughing saying wow don't worry and how I'm covered and how no one in this industry will do anything.

My intent is to inform the women in this industry so they can better protect themselves. If I truly wanted to destroy anyone's reputation or business, I would have print a long time ago EVERYTHING that I know about both of them.

Darrah 06-15-2010 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 17250226)
JustDave -- nice work.

Darrah read his post, re-read it and then memorize it.

You are a target waiting to be shot at -- realize that and govern your actions accordingly. Go ask Luke Ford about defending a libel lawsuit and what it cost him.

Even if you win, you will still be out a minimum of $50,000 just to defend the lawsuit and probably closer to $100,000 in legal fees.

Wasn't Luke sued because he said she had sex with a dog? She sued for his writer's guild insurance and won it. Luke was then later kicked off the guild after the lawsuit. Well that's the story I heard about his lawsuit.

Has any other porn writer besides Luke ever been sued for libeling a porn agent and a porn company CEO who both have bad reputations?

WarChild 06-15-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrah (Post 17249062)
Even when no malice was behind it? I've read up on it and there has to be malice behind it or if you knew it wasn't true but still ran it. Whatever I say I believe is 100% true.

See, this right here is the basis of everybody's problem with you.

You've "read up on it" and you ACTUALLY believe that the standard for libel is what YOU BELIEVE to be true. You honestly think there's a glaring loop hole in the law the allows you to print libelous information simply because you believe it's true? Do you have any idea how juvenile that sounds?

Honestly, your track record with solid research hasn't been very good. You're clearly an outsider hoping to push your way so you can represent the poor women working in porn. The glaring error in your reasoning is that you don't have anybody for a client. In plain English, YOU DON'T REPRESENT ANYONE. The only information you have is second hand in the best cases and pure conjecture in the worst. You're not a journalist and you're in way over your head. Stop before you do yourself some real harm.

WarChild 06-16-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrah (Post 17250572)
My intent is to inform the women in this industry so they can better protect themselves. If I truly wanted to destroy anyone's reputation or business, I would have print a long time ago EVERYTHING that I know about both of them.

Don't be ridiculous. No women in the industry are running to your silly little blog to get the bottom line about perspective employers from you. The only eyes you get are when you come here to cut and paste your blog postings. You might like to think of yourself as a journalist, but it's plain as day that you are not. You aren't now nor will you ever be "saving" anyone.

One of the people here trying to tell you how ridiculous you're being is an attorney that works specifically in adult law. You may have it from a "good source" that what you're doing is harmless and not actionable, but somebody with I'd wager much better credentials than your friend in the know is trying to tell you otherwise and you're too blind to see it. Starting to notice a pattern here?

ottopottomouse 06-16-2010 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17250582)
See, this right here is the basis of everybody's problem with you.

You've "read up on it" and you ACTUALLY believe that the standard for libel is what YOU BELIEVE to be true. You honestly think there's a glaring loop hole in the law the allows you to print libelous information simply because you believe it's true? Do you have any idea how juvenile that sounds?

If Wikipedia says it's true then it's true :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 06-16-2010 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrah (Post 17186859)
It is well known in the industry that any current performer who comes out publicly in support of better working conditions can

best laugh I've had in a while... lets see you go sit around someone living room for a few hours, get laid, make a $1000... tough fucking life


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