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LoveSandra 05-30-2010 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Konkan (Post 17189000)
thats overpricing........:2 cents:

indeed:2 cents::2 cents:

Paul Markham 05-30-2010 05:48 AM

When Eva and I first came to Czech we were paying 10,000 Krown a day. We soon learned that many others were only willing or able to pay 5,000. Did we lower what we paid so they were not priced out? No way, we wanted to get the best girls first because they were worth more money.

Years later Internet companies started coming here and started to pay 15,000 to 20,000 Krown a day. Did we moan and ask them to drop their rates or get on with finding girls to shoot for the price we were willing to pay?

We upped our efforts to find new girls to work for 10,000 Krown a day.

Grapesoda 05-30-2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17189144)
This is true...It's just a Risk/Return thing....I've shot girls for $20 that have sold like hotcakes....Then I find a young one and pay her $100 because she's young and my audience isn't even excited....The only thing that matters when shooting content is PROFIT.

this my thinking as well, that and treating all concerned with as much professional concern as possible

Grapesoda 05-30-2010 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17189063)
Except for one factor...if the girl doesn't make you one thin dime more.

I'd say pay anyone who can actually make sales for you based on her being in the scene a good fair price. If a girl has a big following and can bring in more money by her very presence then hell yeah.

In this day and age of piracy and every one of these girls being fucked in the ass in full scenes available for free everywhere...I simply wouldn't see paying a girl more money than she would be worth to my business.

Remember...everything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Right now content is so devalued from all this piracy and full member site rips that it would be a tough call to go paying 2 thousand dollars for a boy/girl scene.

Hell, it's almost to the point where you lose money if you pay them ONE dollar. :(

Not saying the girls aren't worth it in the talent and looks dept. I'm just saying are they worth it in the end result when the sales are added up, or would you make more profit using a super hot girl who doesn't charge as much.

EDIT: In other words it has nothing to do with being able to "afford" the girl. I can afford to rent a mansion for a few thousand dollars a day to shoot CM in. It would look GREAT! And everybody would slap me on the back and say how good it is. But it wouldn't make ONE more sale for me. Not one. So being able to afford something and then having it make business sense is two different things

yes it's about a clear understanding of your goals and objectives.... my objective is to profit from content production. lower production cost = higher net profit.

I shoot who I am told to shoot regardless of 'hotness' I am NOT a fan, I am a producer. when the budget crosses my 'expected net profit threshold' I walk away. there are many many many models available to shoot.

if an agent can get a producer to 'pay out the ass' for a shoot, more power to them.

MaDalton 05-30-2010 06:21 AM

we get fixed prices for our content - so we offer fixed prices to the girls. they can take it or leave. and not only once we had girls who demanded absurd money and came back later for the regular price when rent was due.

Grapesoda 05-30-2010 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17189859)
we get fixed prices for our content - so we offer fixed prices to the girls. they can take it or leave. and not only once we had girls who demanded absurd money and came back later for the regular price when rent was due.

that's the name of the game.... I know a guy shooting scenes for $300, for both the male and female talent BTW. at 2am when the dope runs out...

Paul Markham 05-30-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17189859)
we get fixed prices for our content - so we offer fixed prices to the girls. they can take it or leave. and not only once we had girls who demanded absurd money and came back later for the regular price when rent was due.

We adopted the same approach when we came here. The only downside was the magazine market where you could get a girl book her for 5 days and shoot the ass off her for magazines. But the girls usually came around to working for what they're offered when their "newness" wore off.

NemesisEnforcer 05-30-2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17189683)
But with Hollywood a familiar face can sell a film.

Yes, but Hollywood doesn?t shoot 20 movies a month with same faces and saturate the market with it.

Rochard 05-30-2010 07:30 AM

Offer them $2k on the phone, then when they come in say you changed your mind and it's $1k. Trust me, they'll jump for you. If not, pick up the phone and call the next girl.

LeRoy 05-30-2010 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17189170)
I work for $20 an inch.

10.00 per scene is a great price Mister Peabody :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DeanCapture 05-30-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17189945)
Offer them $2k on the phone, then when they come in say you changed your mind and it's $1k. Trust me, they'll jump for you. If not, pick up the phone and call the next girl.

That's a great way to fuck up you reputation. I see all kinds of problems that can result in doing this. Sure, you'll snag a model here & there but in the long run - bad idea. It's always best to be honest & up front with people if you have a long term business strategy :thumbsup

marcop 05-30-2010 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 17190060)

Originally Posted by Rochard
Offer them $2k on the phone, then when they come in say you changed your mind and it's $1k. Trust me, they'll jump for you. If not, pick up the phone and call the next girl.

Originally Posted by DeanCapture
That's a great way to fuck up you reputation. I see all kinds of problems that can result in doing this. Sure, you'll snag a model here & there but in the long run - bad idea. It's always best to be honest & up front with people if you have a long term business strategy :thumbsup

I thought Rochard's post was so outrageously stupid, he was actually being sarcastic or ironic or something.

The Porn Nerd 05-30-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 17189950)
10.00 per scene is a great price Mister Peabody :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

In this market I'm glad to get even that. I ain't proud. :D

fuzebox 05-30-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17189063)
So being able to afford something and then having it make business sense is two different things

Great quote which applies to almost everything... I hate it when people make comments about what people can and can't afford.

davecummings 05-30-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17189063)
Except for one factor...if the girl doesn't make you one thin dime more.

I'd say pay anyone who can actually make sales for you based on her being in the scene a good fair price. If a girl has a big following and can bring in more money by her very presence then hell yeah.

In this day and age of piracy and every one of these girls being fucked in the ass in full scenes available for free everywhere...I simply wouldn't see paying a girl more money than she would be worth to my business.

Remember...everything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Right now content is so devalued from all this piracy and full member site rips that it would be a tough call to go paying 2 thousand dollars for a boy/girl scene.

Hell, it's almost to the point where you lose money if you pay them ONE dollar. :(

Not saying the girls aren't worth it in the talent and looks dept. I'm just saying are they worth it in the end result when the sales are added up, or would you make more profit using a super hot girl who doesn't charge as much.

EDIT: In other words it has nothing to do with being able to "afford" the girl. I can afford to rent a mansion for a few thousand dollars a day to shoot CM in. It would look GREAT! And everybody would slap me on the back and say how good it is. But it wouldn't make ONE more sale for me. Not one. So being able to afford something and then having it make business sense is two different things

Realistic, and well said. Your comment Robbie in your above 3d paragraph, i.e., --"In this day and age of piracy and every one of these girls being fucked in the ass in full scenes available for free everywhere.." is definitely important for us to realize.

Maybe some "Agents" like it when girls keep their rates high?

davecummings 05-30-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker (Post 17189072)
Jenna Haze is quite known and hot, isn't she? So 3k for a day of her pussy drilling seems to be not that much... but well, I'm not a specialist and I might be wrong, guys above me know much more about this business for sure. :D

Is the 3K for the entire day, or just a girl/boy scene?

amacontent 05-30-2010 10:50 AM

Plenty of hot girls working for $700 - $800 here. SCrew the over priced big names. You can see free content of them everywhere. Why would anyone pay those rates. Not anymore. 5 years from now those high priced whores will be broke.

Robbie 05-30-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 17190282)
Is the 3K for the entire day, or just a girl/boy scene?

I'm sure it's just one scene. I don't think Cyber Fucker worded that correctly or maybe isn't aware of how it usually works. Hell, I'd pay her 3 grand in a heartbeat if I had an entire day. I'd get 5 b/g scenes, one g/g, one solo, and 10,000 pics...and I'd fuck her myself. lol

SpongeBub 05-30-2010 11:08 AM

Well put, Robbie. I honestly don't know how you guys afford to keep shooting. I can find any scene I want with about 5 minutes effort and then d/l it for free (of course, I don't do that but you know what I mean). The only thing I can see keeping the porn biz going is that guys, being the pervs we are, will always want to shoot porn, even if we lose money doing it. Hell, I shot girls (pros and amateurs) in the Tampa/St. Pete area for years and never released a bit of it. I just did it because I like doing it and it gets me off to pay a girl to do shit like that. So I guess no matter how bad it gets, some guys will still shoot porn. But I know that it must be really tough for you pros who have long gotten past the thrill of getting a girl to take a dick on camera and do it only to pay the bills.

Robbie 05-30-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SpongeBub (Post 17190325)
must be really tough for you pros who have long gotten past the thrill of getting a girl to take a dick on camera.

Most of the people shooting don't get excited by it.

Me? I'm one of those guys who NEVER gets tired of it. I love what I do. Started shooting content in 1993, started, owned, and shot all the content for Pure Candy Images until we sold it in 2002. And of course what I do now. I actually do get excited to shoot every scene and always have a hard on the entire time I'm doing it...I just plain out love sex. That's probably the only reason my shit is successful.

Lace 05-30-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy (Post 17189084)
Who and the hell would pay a fat ass like Sunny Lane 10k ? How funny!

10k to let her fat ass blow me.

jackknoff 05-30-2010 07:02 PM

$500.00 to $800.00 per scene, if she's a top name, maybe $1200.00 max. Sounds more like the agency and not the girl. Tough times...


Spanx!
Jack

NaughtyRob 05-30-2010 07:03 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
They must be crazy or just dont want to work.

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy (Post 17189030)
Jenna Haze demands $3,000 per BG scene no anal, anal is more.

Chanel Preston Demands $2,000 BG scene no anal.


NaughtyRob 05-30-2010 07:07 PM

She is totally bullshitting you unless for example she had a $100,000 - 4 movie per year deal. But she probably forgot to mention all the appearances, feature dancing gigs etc that comes with being a contract girl.
:2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 17189418)
When I shot Briana Banks recently, she said in her prime she was making $25k a scene.


CheeseHead Nacho Burger 05-30-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 17190162)
I think Rochard is outrageously stupid

Fixed. And agreed.

fatfoo 05-30-2010 09:07 PM

I read an article that there is a prostitute in Las Vegas and she charges $30,000 a night - unbelievable.

marcop 05-30-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseHead Nacho Burger (Post 17191724)
Fixed. And agreed.

You edited my quote to say something that I didn't say. You're a useless sack of rancid shit. Go fuck yourself.

The Porn Nerd 05-30-2010 09:32 PM

Will fuck for food....

marcop 05-30-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseHead Nacho Burger (Post 17191724)
Fixed. And agreed.

Donny... are you off your meds again? I thought you were doing sales and marketing for Jesus and his wacko Christian zombie followers. Why are you fucking with me? Don't you have souls to save and bigger fish to fry???

Raf1 05-31-2010 07:34 AM

if they get work for that much, then good for them. I think a lot of them are without a job at the moment :)

Jay-Rock 05-31-2010 10:49 AM

I understand why some of the hotter girls have higher rates. You should see what happens to their pussies after they are booked too much. When these girls (that work almost daily) tell me they have a BF at home I wonder what he thinks about he girls pussy constantly blown the fuck out. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Duck 05-31-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17189945)
Offer them $2k on the phone, then when they come in say you changed your mind and it's $1k. Trust me, they'll jump for you. If not, pick up the phone and call the next girl.

That is just unethical and assholish.

Paul Markham 05-31-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Raf1 (Post 17192727)
if they get work for that much, then good for them. I think a lot of them are without a job at the moment :)

Then they would be lowering their rates. It does not make economic sense for a model or agent to price girls out of every bodies price range. They both would soon go broke.

Maybe they earn more money escorting, stripping or what ever. But they earn money or go broke.

Naechy 05-31-2010 12:45 PM

that is too much :)

Mr. E 05-31-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 17191569)
She is totally bullshitting you unless for example she had a $100,000 - 4 movie per year deal. But she probably forgot to mention all the appearances, feature dancing gigs etc that comes with being a contract girl.
:2 cents:

Yea, did 6 scenes a year, $150k. Second highest paid contract girl behind Jenna Jameson.

SBJ 05-31-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 17189095)
Oh ok, I know who Mr. Happy is now.... :1orglaugh

yup some things never change.. I knew it was him after 60 posts mos ago :1orglaugh

Cyber Fucker 05-31-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17190292)
I'm sure it's just one scene. I don't think Cyber Fucker worded that correctly or maybe isn't aware of how it usually works. Hell, I'd pay her 3 grand in a heartbeat if I had an entire day. I'd get 5 b/g scenes, one g/g, one solo, and 10,000 pics...and I'd fuck her myself. lol


Yes, I wasn't aware it takes less time. I was thinking that some scenes might need to be repeated when a director is not satisfied and it takes whole day to finish the final product.. :D

Robbie 05-31-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker (Post 17194579)
Yes, I wasn't aware it takes less time. I was thinking that some scenes might need to be repeated when a director is not satisfied and it takes whole day to finish the final product.. :D

Some guys are "slow shooters" and take 7 or 8 hours to do a scene.

I respect them and all...but common sense tells me you're gonna lose any "real" sex that might have happened on the set. And you're gonna end up with a real well lit, well shot, scene that isn't gonna be as hot as when you have a guy who REALLY wants to fuck the girl and you get the shoot done in a couple of hours with as little intrusion as you can.

And when I say as "little intrusion" it's still a lot because you do have to get certain things done (stills, positions, etc.)

But when you made your original comment you were talking about shooting her all day long. And yeah, it does happen...Score is notorious for trying to do what I said earlier, shoot 2 or 3 scenes and picture sets for the price of one by making it a "day rate"

But most don't. And I'm sure her outrageous price comes from an agent, and is only for exactly ONE scene.

Forest 05-31-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 17189075)
I charge $20 for a BJ

giving or receiving?

AmeliaG 05-31-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17189063)
I simply wouldn't see paying a girl more money than she would be worth to my business. . . . But it wouldn't make ONE more sale for me. Not one. So being able to afford something and then having it make business sense is two different things

There you go with the business sense and actually knowing basic math again :winkwink:


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