Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17221899)

I have, aside from that fact that it's SUPER hard it works well if you know what you're doing. But then again it only helps if you are paying attention to EVERY single card coming across the table and even then a lot of the tables at the casinos here have the machines that are constantly rotating cards and isn't a regular shoe.

I lost WAY more money learning how to count cards at a table than I did actually learning how to play poker. The basic card counting strategy isn't difficult but even being able to add or subtract 1 as fast as some dealers deal is pretty tough.

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17221902)

No, not always, but based on your post it is no surprise that you do not win. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17221925)

I have played in Vegas, Reno, Tahoe, Bahamas, Riverboats and dozens of other places. I have NEVER walked away from a session a loser ... period. I am financially sound so really play for fun once in a while ... but, I don't need to commit my life to it. I golf a lot and enjoy life at 73 years of age. Don't want to sit in a Casino every day simply because I don't need the money. Have websites I set up years ago and make money there while I am golfing.

I see many people posting how they play, guess what other players are doing, etc etc.

Let me tell you ... LOTS of disastrous errors being made in the posts I see. Some very bad mistakes being made.

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17221756)

i totally believe that what people do on the table makes a huge difference. i have played blackjack for years and i will literally scout a table and the way players are playing.

each time that i have played with "quality" players i have done extremely well.

the deck works in trends, and when people play all over the place it is hard to see what is coming next. blackjack there is def skill involved. anytime a newbie buddy plays he will be toast with the first 30min when i will be playing most of the night.

again the deck comes down to trends and calling when the right trend is going to happen. if people are hitting all over the place it makes it near impossible to call this.

people are going to have their opinions but i can guarantee you the ones who say otherwise simply do not play alot of blackjack.

walk into the casino and go to the high rollers table and ask those guys their opinion. then report back. i can bet you they will tell you it does matter.

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17221917)

1. Learn basic strategy online with a trainer app. If possible set the rules to match the casino you play at the most.

2. Learn to count cards online with trainer apps or at home yourself by counting down decks and timing yourself. Never learn in a casino.

3. You can not count cards if the dealer is using a shuffle machine.

Some card counting methods are very hard, but there are many effective methods that are not difficult at all. With just a little practice you will be able to count the table in just a few seconds using nothing more than a glance.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17221925)

I have played in Vegas, Reno, Tahoe, Bahamas, Riverboats and dozens of other places. I have NEVER walked away from a session a loser ... period

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17221935)

would be better off carrying a rabbits foot and sticking to the slots.

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17221633)

Questions:

1. Do you believe it makes a difference how many players are at a table in regards to your chances, and cards?

2. Do you believe that everyone must play their cards right (i.e. basic strategy), and that if others do not, it will ultimately effect your hand and money making over the long term?

3. Do you think that progressive betting is necessary to play blackjack? Or do you simply play optimum betting strategy over the long haul?

:helpme

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17221901)

i already know how this one ends, when you are done the book you upsell volume 2? am i right or am i wrong? You are wrong ... no Volume 2 upsell

it is like people who have a converting site. are they going to go around and let people know every secret for a $35 fee? or are they going to keep that shit to themselves and make sure they make boat loads of money themselves?I played music in Casinos with Bill for several years (both trumpet players). Bill has made tons of money playing Blackjack and presently lives in Atlantic City but only plays BJ ocassionally now. He is 75, rich, and still plays music in Casino bands because he loves to do it.

either you are completely full of shit or you are the nicest guy on earth. Simple, Bill or I don't need the money but as businessmen are not going to GIVE the information away for free. If someone can't afford $35 for the cost of the information they simply should get back to slinging porn and/or MickeyD's. Products of any kind cost something. Cars, boats, books, or whatever.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17221799)

I own the company that publishes his book. Would be self-defeating giving the info out for free.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17221969)

Hope this makes sense to you. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17221925)

I have played in Vegas, Reno, Tahoe, Bahamas, Riverboats and dozens of other places. I have NEVER walked away from a session a loser ... period.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17221969)

Hope this makes sense to you. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17221975)

fuck. too early. or late it seems.

Either way, if you are going into it playing to make money you're going to lose. you're going to get emotional and stray from your strategy. find what works for you and you'll do fine.

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17221954)

Maybe your friends believe that line of bullshit but you really make yourself look stupid to people who know better.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17222003)

All I can say friend to that comment is ... KEEP LOSING. When I do play, which is seldom anymore, I'll enjoy your money. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17221999)

You can go and play daily if you like and make money. However, you have to eliminate the emotional and pride from the equation. You have to play how you are going to play consistently. Your favorite seat, or favorite dealer has no control in the cards. If you are getting you teeth kicked in, you need to move. You are playing with your money, not for pieces of plastic.

You need to know when to change tables, and cash out. Everyone in this thread, or regular at a casino has seen someone make a few grand in a sitting and lose it all.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17222003)

All I can say friend to that comment is ... KEEP LOSING. When I do play, which is seldom anymore, I'll enjoy your money. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17221977)

ok dude its nice to know the greatest player WHO HAS NEVER LOST AT BLACKJACK is on GFY.

please go fuck yourself in a hole somewhere, you just proved my point about you ebook idiots.

Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17222015)

I found I do better walking in with $100 than I do with more.

Honestly, I usually play with around $50 bucks for an hour or so, cash out and leave. If I lose it all right away, oh well. But for the most part I will walk with $200-$300 and I'm a happy camper. It all balances out though.

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17222026)

Here's a newsflash for you; the best counters on the planet and the best poker players on the planet have ALL had losing sessions. You really sound like some dumbass thats been to Vegas once and got lucky on a slot machine.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17222028)

Most hilarious statement I have read on here. Suggesting you would rather I lie to you. Have never met anyone like that before.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17221925)

I have played in Vegas, Reno, Tahoe, Bahamas, Riverboats and dozens of other places. I have NEVER walked away from a session a loser ... period.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17222033)

I wouldn't play a slot machine if YOU paid me to. Odds are fixed. In Blackjack I can change the house odds ... simple as that.

Do you want me to lie to you also?????:(

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17222040)

YES IDIOT YOU ARE LYING. to say you have NEVER lost at blackjack after years of playing is the most idiotic statement i have ever heard. seriously you are a complete tool.

no no dude pretty sure THIS is the most hilarious statement EVER made on GFY.



what is even sadder it is almost as if you have convinced yourself of this. you are a delusional old man. please do us all a favor and go slang your ebook on DP.

what a joke. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17222057)

My bet is that YOU have lost a lot on the BJ tables and are too stupid to understand that YOUR system of playing is superbly DUMB. And, you are absolutely too stupid to change.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17222057)

My bet is that YOU have lost a lot on the BJ tables and are too stupid to understand that YOUR system of playing is superbly DUMB. And, you are absolutely too stupid to change.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17221925)

I have played in Vegas, Reno, Tahoe, Bahamas, Riverboats and dozens of other places. I have NEVER walked away from a session a loser ... period. I am financially sound so really play for fun once in a while ... but, I don't need to commit my life to it. I golf a lot and enjoy life at 73 years of age. Don't want to sit in a Casino every day simply because I don't need the money. Have websites I set up years ago and make money there while I am golfing.

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17222061)

Another idiot who watched 21, thought it was real and now confuses the rest of his life with fantasy.

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17222046)

1. You are lying.

2. The best you can swing the odds in bj are under a 2% advantage. That does not equate to never having a losing session, not even close. Are you this stupid in real life or just on here?

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17222064)

do you really want to continue this? you already look like a complete asshat. i can keep going and really make you look like an even bigger idiot if you want me to.





read through your post again, do you really believe what you are typing? i am going to call the looney bin on you soon.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17222072)

Another one wanting me to lie to them. Lordy lordy ... they're coming out of the woodwork. People wanting to hear lies. Strange strange strange if I don't say so. Is it the truth you want me to lie to you??? :upsidedow

Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17221880)

Up until about a month ago I spent about 3-4 days a week in the casino playing blackjack for about a year. Sooo...



Yes, absolutely. I always pull back my bet when someone new sits down at a table. If they play stupid, I walk away. If they play smart I give it a couple hands to see how badly it affected the table. If the table is already cold I see if it helps. Sometimes it does, sometimes it makes it worse. But the number of players always affects the cards you're dealt. If there are two players + dealer I will sometimes play two hands if the table is really cold in order to switch things up. It only takes one player that doesn't know what they're doing to ruin it for everyone else, such as hitting a 16 when the dealer is showing a low card and pulling the dealers bust card. Just keep in mind that once you figure out what you're doing, you can suggest to other players what to do if they look unsure. That saved my ass a lot when I was learning how to play.



You just have to be smart and play how you play and play consistently. I always stay on my 6's no matter what a dealer is showing. I never split tens, I always double down on soft 15, split aces and 8s, basic strategy. I bought in with a couple hundo one time to test out a betting strategy where you would play simple strategy but bet 1x, 4x, 2x and 6x table minimum (assuming you continue winning hands, if you lose you start over) and I made good money doing that. If you win all 4 in a row you start over then even if you lose the next 6 hands you're still way ahead.



This is where it varies, person to person or even visit to visit.

Me personally, I buy in small to each table (usually about 8x table minimum) and I will play the minimum until I have doubled my buy-in. Then I will start changing my bets according to how hot the table is. If my first four hands are losers I will simply get up and walk away and find another table with the same min. bet. If the table gets hot and people are playing consistently I will raise my bet. I played 9 straight hours about 2 months ago at a $100 min table, everytime I'd get back down to $100 I'd get back up to about a grand then go down and up and down and up. Normally when something like that happens I'll bet the min 4 times and walk away regardless of the outcome.

At the end of the day the dealer always wins, so keep track of how much you buy in to for the month vs how much you win. After a couple of months if you are up, keep playing how you have been. If you're in the red, either change up how you play or just stop. Try to keep emotions out of it, you will always lose hands and you will always win hands, it's just a matter of being a consistent player and not changing your technique because you have a bad feeling or you think you should. If you're consistent and lose, chances are you would have lost that hand anyway. Can't tell you how many times I have "thought" I should hit a 16 then did and I busted and I pulled the dealers bust card and they hit a 21 ruining it for the whole table.

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17222103)

jerryb lets clarify in your years of blackjack you have NEVER lost?

how many years have you played?

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17222103)

jerryb lets clarify in your years of blackjack you have NEVER lost?

how many years have you played?

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17222170)

I was never a maniac at playing BJ like Bill was. He has played for over 40 years figuring out his method of winning. And, he played almost every day when I was traveling with him in big bands.

I played for about 8-10 years off and on, but did not play everyday, when I was a musician in the Casinos. And then, I did not dedicate my life to playing BJ like Bill. Bill taught me what to do before I ever sat down at a table and he coached me in the next chair when I started.

If you knew me personally you would know I am not lying. I have never lost in a BJ session ... and, THAT'S A FACT. Whether anyone believes it or not does not bother me one iota. I know the facts.

I feel sorry for the people here that doubt it but such is life.

They are the people that state and want you to believe:

1. Having my best month ever in porn sales.
2. My site is converting 1:46
3. My best year ever.
etc etc etc etc

I have no reason to lie and could care less if you buy the book. We sell around 80-90 of the books a month and have many testimonials from people who have thanked us for sharing Bill's method of playing BJ.

Bill wanted me to publish the book to share his knowlege and break many of the stupid myths of playing BJ that people have stated in this thread. Bill and I are very very financially secure but are not going to GIVE the book and information away. Simple as that.

Hope I didn't hurt any feeling on the board here and still consider you all friends. We just have a difference of opinions and facts.

Peace :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17222154)

This whole post is a big bowl of wrong!

1. What anyone else does at a table means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to your hand. It's basic math. Argue it all you want but its like arguing creationism vs evolution. One side has firm science behind it and one has gut opinion.

2. You claim you play basic strategy yet always stick on 6's no matter what the dealer shows?? Always hit soft 15? :helpme

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17222183)

you know how i know you are lying? you go off on some rampant explanation instead of simply answering the question.

well not to mention you are completely full of shit anyway to say you have never lost in 8-10 years of playing.

Originally Posted by jerryb (Post 17222200)

Duhhhhh. I answered BOTH questions. Is you mathematics wrong here too?????

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17222183)

you know how i know you are lying? you go off on some rampant explanation instead of simply answering the question.

well not to mention you are completely full of shit anyway to say you have never lost in 8-10 years of playing.