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Rochard 06-08-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17226142)
I think Iran should just start inspecting US ships in the Gulf. I mean, in the name of their self defense right?

Iran has that right. If it's off the coast of their country, they legally have the right to stop the ship, board it, and inspect it.

I was going to say that the Iranian Navy only has fucking speed boats, but I looked it up and they have a handful of destroyers and a few subs.

But I don't think the US has any civilian ships in the area. It seems to me that most of the tankers aren't American, but instead flagged under odd countries that don't pay much attention to shipping laws. It's a legal work around.

BFT3K 06-08-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VHNet (Post 17229177)
Soon to be WWIII -- n/s korea, china (who knows who they back), russia getting pissed, iran, iraq, palestine...afghanistan, iraq -- we'll be at full World War within the next couple of years I think...

Good thing is that the countries with the best tech are on our side :)

If we get dragged into Israel's Iran agenda, and Russia and China side with Iran, THEN we have an all-out WWIII

In the meantime, here's a little ditty about Henry Kissinger...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=T5vo7jLGOb8

cykoe6 06-08-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17226430)
look at your pic. you are the epitome of krakow ghetto genetically degenerate trash.go away. there is an old lady who needs her purse pickpocked.

But of course you do not hate Jews........ right? :winkwink:

DEA - banned for life 06-08-2010 04:38 PM

lol@iran

MetaMan 06-08-2010 04:59 PM

I am glad the world is slowly realizing what Israel is really about. Thank God for the internet or all media would be filtered bullshit.

i stopped watching TV in general. Especially the filtered news.

directfiesta 06-08-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17228285)
Good find roly but I've only seen/found partial lists never a FULL ban list.

http://www.fastforgaza.net/sites/def..._Gaza__0 .pdf

But it changes as per :

The number of items changes according to what is determined by The Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories. COGAT has refused the PA representative's request for an updated list of the items permitted into Gaza in writing, and passes the information only via the telephone.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...-gaza-1.276147


The purpose of the blockade is not really the arms issue, but to deprieve a population of essential goods and make them suffer so when the next election comes, they will not vote for HAMAS ... () which by the way were more then happy to support, arm and finance a few decades ago ... a bit like usa - bin laden .. )

SmokeyTheBear 06-08-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17225678)
One fact that's missing from all the drama: Israel routinely lets in food and other vital materials to Gaza.

you mean they let them have some of their own food. imagine that , what humatiarians.

Meanwhile many foods are banned and many medical supplies are also banned
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17228159)
They only want to inspect for weapons/rocket materials.



Maybe israel should let palestinians inspect their border shipments for weapons or rockets , why is that unreasonable ?

i mean the hundreds of thousand of rockets launched from israel in the past isn't enough reason ? the hundreds of babies and elderly killed by israeli rockets isn't enough.. maybe if 100 palestinians babies died for every one israeli person killed , would that be enough ?

onwebcam 06-08-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17229253)
If we get dragged into Israel's Iran agenda, and Russia and China side with Iran, THEN we have an all-out WWIII

In the meantime, here's a little ditty about Henry Kissinger...

People believe these people aren't pulling any strings and Henry was photographed leaving the Bilderberg meeting in Spain where he has a warrant for his arrest for war crimes. The police there protected the criminal and even they aren't happy about that.

SmokeyTheBear 06-08-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17229224)
Iran has that right. If it's off the coast of their country, they legally have the right to stop the ship, board it, and inspect it.

please stop with the myth. you can't board a ship with weapons in international waters without permission , they did not, as far as inspecting , they would have no reason or law to base an inspection , after all what could they possibly find that isn;t on israeli ships already ?

But don't take my word for it, grab some guns and go try to hop on the deck of a american warship in international waters and see how far you get with your inspection :)

The only rule israel followed is " he who has the bigger guns makes the rules"

theking 06-08-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17229792)
please stop with the myth. you can't board a ship with weapons in international waters without permission , they did not, as far as inspecting , they would have no reason or law to base an inspection , after all what could they possibly find that isn;t on israeli ships already ?

But don't take my word for it, grab some guns and go try to hop on the deck of a american warship in international waters and see how far you get with your inspection :)

The only rule israel followed is " he who has the bigger guns makes the rules"

"Might makes right"...historically has been the rule...still is the rule...and probably will always be the rule.

BFT3K 06-08-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17229787)
People believe these people aren't pulling any strings and Henry was photographed leaving the Bilderberg meeting in Spain where he has a warrant for his arrest for war crimes. The police there protected the criminal and even they aren't happy about that.

Either way, it's still a happy little song...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=T5vo7jLGOb8

MetaMan 06-08-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17229799)
"Might makes right"...historically has been the rule...still is the rule...and probably will always be the rule.

wtf are you even talking about?

do you think it makes you sound intelligent making cowboy statements that have 0 truth to them?

onwebcam 06-08-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17229822)
Either way, it's still a happy little song...

Never said it wasn't :thumbsup


papill0n 06-08-2010 08:45 PM

http://i.imgur.com/WDqCe.jpg

theking 06-08-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17229824)
wtf are you even talking about?

do you think it makes you sound intelligent making cowboy statements that have 0 truth to them?

I live in the real world and that is the way of the world and that is the truth. I do not know what fantasy world you may live in.

MetaMan 06-08-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17229920)
I live in the real world and that is the way of the world and that is the truth. I do not know what fantasy world you may live in.

in the real world "might is right"? that has to be one of the dumbest things i have ever heard. it is the exact opposite. with power comes responsibility. just because i can go around, beat people up and force my view down their throat does not make it "right". might is wrong.

i cannot wait until all you cowboys fade away. your answer to everything is a caveman reaction.

you would be hard pressed to find 1 person on here who thinks you live in the real world.

theking 06-08-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17229931)
in the real world "might is right"? that has to be one of the dumbest things i have ever heard. it is the exact opposite. with power comes responsibility. just because i can go around, beat people up and force my view down their throat does not make it "right". might is wrong.

i cannot wait until all you cowboys fade away. your answer to everything is a caveman reaction.

you would be hard pressed to find 1 person on here who thinks you live in the real world.

"Might makes right" is a euphemism...sport...and of course does not literally make something "right"...but then again "right" and "wrong" are subjective terms. None the less might has made the rules...still makes the rules...and probablly will always make the rules...be it right or be it wrong.

Sausage 06-08-2010 10:06 PM

Why did this 'aid' include bullet proof vests, nightvision goggles etc?

Oh and this kid is a damn legend !


SmokeyTheBear 06-09-2010 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 17230008)
Why did this 'aid' include bullet proof vests, nightvision goggles etc?

so far i havent seen any evidence to suggest these things were onboard. I did physically see wheelchairs and medical supplies though.

I wouldnt believe much of what israel reports unless there is some proof attached. They have already admitted lying about there being al-queda mercenaries aboard ( they admitted later they meant people with no papers )

SmokeyTheBear 06-09-2010 06:32 AM

oh and for the record , i just looked up the "shipment of night vision goggles"

in reality it was like 6 or so regular binoculars you would find on ANY ship and a spotting scope.

the "bullet proof vests" were obviously for security and there weren't even enough for the crew of one boat to wear.

The knives you may have heard others refer to were like a dozen kitchen knives and various other knives you would find on any big boat

Don't let the racists fool you.

SmokeyTheBear 06-09-2010 06:35 AM

israel shows off huge haul of terror equipment
http://idfspokesperson.files.wordpre...6/jpg_0420.jpg
these might seem like regular binoculars you could find at walmart but you would be fooled, i hear they can see right through racists :)

LickMyBalls 06-09-2010 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17230710)
israel shows off huge haul of terror equipment
http://idfspokesperson.files.wordpre...6/jpg_0420.jpg
these might seem like regular binoculars you could find at walmart but you would be fooled, i hear they can see right through racists :)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Slingshot

sperbonzo 06-09-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17230695)
oh and for the record , i just looked up the "shipment of night vision goggles"

in reality it was like 6 or so regular binoculars you would find on ANY ship and a spotting scope.

the "bullet proof vests" were obviously for security and there weren't even enough for the crew of one boat to wear.

The knives you may have heard others refer to were like a dozen kitchen knives and various other knives you would find on any big boat

Don't let the racists fool you.

So then if the Israelis simply opened fire for not reason other than to kill people that they didn't like, then why didn't they open fire on the other 5 boats that they boarded?


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BFT3K 06-09-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17231296)
So then if the Israelis simply opened fire for not reason other than to kill people that they didn't like, then why didn't they open fire on the other 5 boats that they boarded?.

Waaaay too dangerous!

Turns out the other 5 ships were heavily armed with a good amount of small kitchen appliances...

http://cdn2.overstock.com/img/mxc/09...appliances.jpg

sperbonzo 06-09-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17231605)
Waaaay too dangerous!

Turns out the other 5 ships were heavily armed with a good amount of small kitchen appliances...

http://cdn2.overstock.com/img/mxc/09...appliances.jpg


Ok man.... you made me do a spit-take with my water when I read this...



.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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SmokeyTheBear 06-09-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17231296)
So then if the Israelis simply opened fire for not reason other than to kill people that they didn't like, then why didn't they open fire on the other 5 boats that they boarded?
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Did i say they opened fire for no reason ? i didn't.

What would israeli fisherman do if armed iranian navy commandos hopped onboard there ships shooting paintball guns in international waters ? my guess would be like any boat they would try and thwart the efforts.

The israeli commandos had to defend themselves at some point , obviously they went overkill , obviously any sane person would not have started a flawed mission.

think of it this way , you know the huge superbowl parties after the superbowl ? the winning team usually has a celebration with people jaywalking downtown and having a good time. Now try dropping a couple cops with paintball guns into the center of the crowd of hundreds of people and start shooting them in the face with paintballs. Watch how fast the crowd rips the cops apart , watch how fast the cops need to "defend" themselves by shooting otherwise peacefull happy people. Thats why in civilized countries we don't create a situation to murder otherwise peacefull happy people.

SmokeyTheBear 06-09-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17231657)
Ok man.... you made me do a spit-take with my water when I read this...



.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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so did the little girl who's uncle was killed by israeli commando's because he wanted to bring her a wheelchair. Although it is possible she was merely realising how little she is worth compare to an israeli child. The sick part is my tax dollars pay for handouts so israeli kids can eat, meanwhile it's the kids next door starving, israel uses the money for the kids on weapons so it can kill starving kids.. all in a country so small you could fit 100 of them inside texas. what a world

Rochard 06-09-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17229792)
please stop with the myth. you can't board a ship with weapons in international waters without permission , they did not, as far as inspecting , they would have no reason or law to base an inspection , after all what could they possibly find that isn;t on israeli ships already ?

But don't take my word for it, grab some guns and go try to hop on the deck of a american warship in international waters and see how far you get with your inspection :)

The only rule israel followed is " he who has the bigger guns makes the rules"

Not this shit again.

Under International law, ships can be searched by the host country pretty much anywhere out to 200 miles from the shore. In this case, it was about 34 miles. Again, the United States - The US Coast Guard really - does this on a daily basis.

mayabong 06-09-2010 12:11 PM


BFT3K 06-09-2010 12:18 PM

The Israeli situation is rough, but you have to admit, this song is pretty complicated too..



https://youtube.com/watch?v=76knh7D_0QY

sperbonzo 06-09-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17231711)
Not this shit again.

Under International law, ships can be searched by the host country pretty much anywhere out to 200 miles from the shore. In this case, it was about 34 miles. Again, the United States - The US Coast Guard really - does this on a daily basis.


I have a buddy, Chris,(ex-coast guard) who was attacked by a guy, with a boat hook in the back, while they were boarding a boat for inspection. The guy who attacked him was shot and killed by the other coast guard guys on board.


...and yes, it happens a lot.


.:2 cents:

mayabong 06-09-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17231786)
I have a buddy, Chris,(ex-coast guard) who was attacked by a guy, with a boat hook in the back, while they were boarding a boat for inspection. The guy who attacked him was shot and killed by the other coast guard guys on board.


...and yes, it happens a lot.


.:2 cents:

Has israel ever done anything wrong in your eyes? if so what? Thanks.

AtlantisCash 06-09-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17231296)
So then if the Israelis simply opened fire for not reason other than to kill people that they didn't like, then why didn't they open fire on the other 5 boats that they boarded?


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it was most likely a message to Turkiye.

only a dumbest person on the earth wouldn't realize that and 9 innocent people died and others are wounded due to this dirty politic bs.

SmokeyTheBear 06-09-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17231711)
Not this shit again.

Under International law, ships can be searched by the host country pretty much anywhere out to 200 miles from the shore. In this case, it was about 34 miles. Again, the United States - The US Coast Guard really - does this on a daily basis.

blah blah rhetoric, you and i both know israel would not lets its ships be boarded for searches , nor would they allow their weapons to be confiscated.

A blockade may only be used against a soverign nation you are at war with ( not an internal conflict ) , since gaza is not recognized by israel as a soverign nation the blockade is illegal and thus so are the searches. The blockade is also in violation of Article 33 of the fourth Geneva Convention. http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/com/380-600038?opendocument

sperbonzo 06-09-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17232574)
blah blah rhetoric, you and i both know israel would not lets its ships be boarded for searches , nor would they allow their weapons to be confiscated.

A blockade may only be used against a soverign nation you are at war with ( not an internal conflict ) , since gaza is not recognized by israel as a soverign nation the blockade is illegal and thus so are the searches. The blockade is also in violation of Article 33 of the fourth Geneva Convention. http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/com/380-600038?opendocument

Actually, if an Isreali ship, or any ship, comes within 200 miles of the US, (or most countries that have a coast guard or effective navy), they can and ARE boarded for inspection... ALL THE TIME. This is not rhetoric, this is a daily reality. I spend a lot of time on boats, traveling in and out of US waters, and I have buddies in the coast Guard. If you don't believe me try asking someone in the coast guard about it.

There is no blah blah blah rhetoric about it. It's a daily reality on the sea. Ships are boarded for inspection all the time, and if force is used against the boarders, deadly force will be the response.

Do some checking... and not just on google. Try calling your local coast guard station and ASKING THEM.


.:2 cents:



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directfiesta 06-09-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17231711)
Not this shit again.

Under International law, ships can be searched by the host country pretty much anywhere out to 200 miles from the shore. In this case, it was about 34 miles. Again, the United States - The US Coast Guard really - does this on a daily basis.

Again, please link to that part of the law .... ( Sorry, after your no-fly zone convictions, hard to believe your saying .. )

crowkid 06-09-2010 04:25 PM

the Jew haters will always find Israel at fault...Can you all imagine if Mexico's people elected a pro-terrorist government who's sworn declaration is to destroy the USA, and they sent a ship off the coast of Texas with all kinds of equipment, and you're telling me we wouldn't inspect it? We'd just lie down and let them kill us? What world do you all live in? Just because you hate Jews and you want to see them dead doesn't mean they're supposed to be the ONLY country in the world not allowed to inspect what's coming in... Liberalism is truly a mental disorder, Doctor Savage was right.

crowkid 06-09-2010 04:30 PM

It's amazing the way 99% of you bend over backwards to defend anything that's terrorist-related; when the reality is, some of you are homosexuals, and most all of you at least sell porn, these people aren't your friends and the way you live your lives you would be minus your head if any of you lived in these countries. Period. Whereas, if any of you have been to Israel, gone to clubs, the women are nice, they don't wear bee-keeper costumes, people can fuck, consume alcohol , theyre JUST LIKE us. When are you going to drop this politically-correct idea that you got from the media that WE'RE ALL ALIKE, it's simply not true these people oppress their women and have a disgust for intelligent thought and rationale. Keep defending the cave men though and likening Christians to these beheaders; yea because there is so many Christian bombings daily I just cant keep count.

MetaMan 06-09-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crowkid (Post 17232649)
It's amazing the way 99% of you bend over backwards to defend anything that's terrorist-related; when the reality is, some of you are homosexuals, and most all of you at least sell porn, these people aren't your friends and the way you live your lives you would be minus your head if any of you lived in these countries. Period. Whereas, if any of you have been to Israel, gone to clubs, the women are nice, they don't wear bee-keeper costumes, people can fuck, consume alcohol , theyre JUST LIKE us. When are you going to drop this politically-correct idea that you got from the media that WE'RE ALL ALIKE, it's simply not true these people oppress their women and have a disgust for intelligent thought and rationale. Keep defending the cave men though and likening Christians to these beheaders; yea because there is so many Christian bombings daily I just cant keep count.

um are you that stupid? how old are you kid im guessing 18?

do you have any idea that the muslim world is much more westernized than you think?

this may surprise you but countries like, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon, UAE all have clubs and the women do not wear "bee keeper" costumes. and yes even in the muslim world people have sex outside of marriage. i know double gasp!

have you ever been to anywhere in the middle east?

you talk like "the media" but im trying to understand where you get your brain washing from.

crowkid 06-09-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17232661)
um are you that stupid? how old are you kid im guessing 18?

do you have any idea that the muslim world is much more westernized than you think?

this may surprise you but countries like, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon, UAE all have clubs and the women do not wear "bee keeper" costumes. and yes even in the muslim world people have sex outside of marriage. i know double gasp!

have you ever been to anywhere in the middle east?

you talk like "the media" but im trying to understand where you get your brain washing from.


Please visit the Middle East, homosexual.


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