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directfiesta 06-11-2010 10:09 AM

Seems like the Israelis did not manage to confiscate all footage of the attack on the Mavi Marmara

http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=12429821



Gaza flotilla attack: activist releases new footageDocumentary maker Iara Lee smuggles out video despite Israeli attempt to confiscate all recordings
(31)Tweet this (5)Haroon Siddique guardian.co.uk, Friday 11 June 2010 17.33 BST Article historyIsraeli Attack on the Mavi Marmara, May 31st 2010 // 15 min. from Cultures of Resistance on Vimeo. Warning: contains graphic scenes

New footage has emerged of the Israeli assault on a convoy of aid ships headed to Gaza in which nine activists were killed.

The high-quality film was reportedly recorded by New York-based documentary maker Iara Lee aboard the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish ship that bore the brunt of the Israeli attacks.

Israel attempted to confiscate all footage recorded by participants in the Gaza Freedom flotilla ? including taking away mobile phones ? but Lee managed to smuggle one hour of video out of the country by hiding it in her underwear, it was reported.

The 15 minutes of film posted online shows the moments leading up to and during the Israeli commandos' assault on the Mavi Marmara.

At one stage, the captain of the boat can be heard over the public address system saying: "Do not show resistance ? They are using live ammunition ? Be calm, be very calm." Gunshots can be heard.

The film includes footage of an Israeli inflatable boat carrying commandos, and troops can be seen rappelling from a helicopter on to the Mavi Marmara. While they do so, two men on the Marmara can be seen using catapults aimed at the soldiers, who are high above them, although the projectiles they are firing cannot be ascertained.

At one point, a passenger on the boat says to the camera: "[The activists] hold two soldiers down here, bleeding and wounded." One soldier can be seen being carried down the stairs of the vessel. In an interview with Democracy Now, Lee said the soldiers were injured in the commotion. "They got treatment by our passengers," she said.

A number of passengers are shown in the video receiving medical treatment for wounds, including one man being resuscitated. He does not appear to respond. At the end of the footage a woman can be heard shouting: "We have no guns here, we are civilians taking care of injured people. Don't use violence, we need help."

Lee described the attack as terrifying. "[The Israelis] came to kill," she said. "They wanted to take over the ship."

More than 600 pro-Palestinian activists were detained by Israel in the 31 May raids on the aid convoy. There was global condemnation of the assault but Israel claimed its troops acted in self-defence after coming under attack from members of an "extremist" Turkish group.

It announced on Monday it would conduct an internal investigation into the incident, defying pressure for a thorough international inquiry.

The UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions said any inquiry set up by Israel should include "all video and other records of the incident, including those confiscated from civilians". Philip Alston said it must be able to interview all key witnesses, including military personnel.

"Any inquiry set up by Israel to investigate the Gaza flotilla incident must be given a genuine capacity to find the facts. Without that capacity an inquiry will simply not be considered credible."

Alston said the inquiry must be independent of government, have full legal authority to investigate and make its final report open to the public

Rochard 06-11-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17234522)
the funny thing about laws is there are more than 1.

It is against the law to murder , it is lawfull to kill in self defense. Sometimes 1 law trumps another.

In this situation it may be lawful under certain conditions for a ship to be armed boarded, it is not lawfull to stop humanitarian aid.

Jesus fucking christ, get it through your head - they legally had the right the stop, board, and search the ship. There is no exception. It doesn't matter if they were carrying aid or dildos.

They legally stopped the ship, was attacked, and defended themselves. The ship violated international law by refusing to stop, and the ship violated international law by refusing to be boarded. At this point, it's a local law enforcement issue. It's pretty fucking simple - you attack any form of law enforcement, and they have the right to self defense. Plain and simple.

They legally attempted to stop the ship, they legally boarded the ship, and legally defended themselves when attacked.

SmokeyTheBear 06-11-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17234532)
There's an idiot ( someone smarter than i ) that doesn't know how to separate facts and form a logical conclusion.:winkwink:

FACT: Israel has illegal nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction.
CONCLUSION: Israel has no right to enforce international law while at the same time breaking the biggest international laws themselves.

I realise you are not smart enough to come to this conclusion without some help from someone educated.

SmokeyTheBear 06-11-2010 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17238252)
Jesus fucking christ, get it through your head - they legally had the right the stop, board, and search the ship.

no they didnt and you havent shown one shred of evidence to support your fantasy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17238252)
. It doesn't matter if they were carrying aid or dildos.

unless you follow laws of course , the law says you cannot interfere with an aid ship , they did , making it an illegal boarding
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17238252)
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They legally stopped the ship,

israel says legal, racists say it's legal , the rest of the world and international law says ILLEGAL.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17238252)
. They legally attempted to stop the ship, they legally boarded the ship, and legally defended themselves when attacked.

only if by legal you mean completely illegal and against the geneva convention.:thumbsup

Fletch XXX 06-11-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17238199)
Seems like the Israelis did not manage to confiscate all footage of the attack on the Mavi Marmara

http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=12429821



Gaza flotilla attack: activist releases new footageDocumentary maker Iara Lee smuggles out video despite Israeli attempt to confiscate all recordings
(31)Tweet this (5)Haroon Siddique guardian.co.uk, Friday 11 June 2010 17.33 BST Article historyIsraeli Attack on the Mavi Marmara, May 31st 2010 // 15 min. from Cultures of Resistance on Vimeo. Warning: contains graphic scenes

New footage has emerged of the Israeli assault on a convoy of aid ships headed to Gaza in which nine activists were killed.

The high-quality film was reportedly recorded by New York-based documentary maker Iara Lee aboard the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish ship that bore the brunt of the Israeli attacks.

Israel attempted to confiscate all footage recorded by participants in the Gaza Freedom flotilla ? including taking away mobile phones ? but Lee managed to smuggle one hour of video out of the country by hiding it in her underwear, it was reported.

The 15 minutes of film posted online shows the moments leading up to and during the Israeli commandos' assault on the Mavi Marmara.

At one stage, the captain of the boat can be heard over the public address system saying: "Do not show resistance ? They are using live ammunition ? Be calm, be very calm." Gunshots can be heard.

The film includes footage of an Israeli inflatable boat carrying commandos, and troops can be seen rappelling from a helicopter on to the Mavi Marmara. While they do so, two men on the Marmara can be seen using catapults aimed at the soldiers, who are high above them, although the projectiles they are firing cannot be ascertained.

At one point, a passenger on the boat says to the camera: "[The activists] hold two soldiers down here, bleeding and wounded." One soldier can be seen being carried down the stairs of the vessel. In an interview with Democracy Now, Lee said the soldiers were injured in the commotion. "They got treatment by our passengers," she said.

A number of passengers are shown in the video receiving medical treatment for wounds, including one man being resuscitated. He does not appear to respond. At the end of the footage a woman can be heard shouting: "We have no guns here, we are civilians taking care of injured people. Don't use violence, we need help."

Lee described the attack as terrifying. "[The Israelis] came to kill," she said. "They wanted to take over the ship."

More than 600 pro-Palestinian activists were detained by Israel in the 31 May raids on the aid convoy. There was global condemnation of the assault but Israel claimed its troops acted in self-defence after coming under attack from members of an "extremist" Turkish group.

It announced on Monday it would conduct an internal investigation into the incident, defying pressure for a thorough international inquiry.

The UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions said any inquiry set up by Israel should include "all video and other records of the incident, including those confiscated from civilians". Philip Alston said it must be able to interview all key witnesses, including military personnel.

"Any inquiry set up by Israel to investigate the Gaza flotilla incident must be given a genuine capacity to find the facts. Without that capacity an inquiry will simply not be considered credible."

Alston said the inquiry must be independent of government, have full legal authority to investigate and make its final report open to the public

exactly, the fact they took all mobile phones and tried to destory all evidence says alot.

Zester 06-11-2010 10:46 AM

I don't understand why every time the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the president of Iran does a speech and yells "death to Israel" he also yells "death to America"

why does america have anything to do with it?

BFT3K 06-11-2010 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zester (Post 17238320)
I don't understand why every time the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the president of Iran does a speech and yells "death to Israel" he also yells "death to America"

why does america have anything to do with it?

That was a joke, right?


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