Awareness is step one. Dialog is step two. Battling mass apathy is an uphill fight.

indeed the awareness was in the 90's dialog as well. the judges have too much power.:2 cents: we need to get that fixed first.

If I purchase the tickets will that encourage you to go earlier? Take your agenda down there about the police and see how well it goes over. It's tiresome here. You have your attention, now take it south of the border.

Bottom line is this, if you are not in a scenario where these incidents happen, then they would not happen in the first place. Stop pointing blame elsewhere and accept accountability of the "victim" for a change. You sound like the kind of person that would blame McDonald's for you being overweight even though they didn't personally deliver the food to your house and force it down your throat.

Hey, if you're springing for tickets, I'll gladly take them any time.
Is that a real offer, or are you just spouting patriotic nonsense?

Seriously, I will most definitely accept airline tickets to Mexico if you're willing to buy them. Mexico has the Internet too you know. :)

again....

you throw a rock at me you will get shot....

thats what they train all cops as well... a rock is considered a deadly weapon .....

would you willingly let me pick a rock and throw it at you ? Hell NO you wouldn't

you think it was the cops fault when they were just reacting to what they were trained ....

don;t belive me go pick a city... go downtown and grab a few rocks and when the cops come start throwing those rocks at said cops and see how fast you end up shot...

IMO you throw rocks at cops you get shot...

and yes I teach my kids that as well...

don't start nothing won't be nothing... see what people don't understand is Cops and Judges are god in this country ....

I live in Las Vegas and I am amazed everyday to see the idiots on the strip arguing with cops ... "you can't do that " or "thats not illlegal" or "I'm within my rights" blah blah.... at the end they all either end up tazed or in jail.... the tazer is the best thing they made for cops.... fuck i'd be tazing everyfucking body..... you know what they have to deal with each day......

This post is wrong on so many levels it's physically painful.

I have several family members in law enforcement, and I will be asking them if that is part of their training. As long as you have no objections, I will ask them this question, "Does the police academy train new officers to kill civilians that throw rocks?"


I wouldn't kill you for it. Especially if I'm wearing kevlar body armor and a helmet.

Yes. I do.

Which is exactly why I won't be doing that. I already know the police will execute me.

Wrong. They are people entrusted to enforce the laws of this country. That does not exempt them from those laws.

Hey, I can't speak for people on the street in situations I know nothing about. But I am grateful you are not a cop, given your admitted hatred of the public. (i.e. "i'd be tazing everyfucking body")

Make sure when you ask your family in LEO make sure you word it like this...

"if a criminal was throwing rocks at YOU and you felt in fear of your life would you shoot the criminal"

there is a difference between throwing rocks in the street vs throwing rocks at a person your not an idiot you know that....

now lets say someone is throwing rocks at your wife would you not defend her?

my hatred for the public? you took me all wrong with the tazing everyfucking body statement....

when I say that I mean criminals .... sorry bro but when your a criminal you loose all your rights IMO....

as for the you throwing rocks.... I see so you understand then that throwing rocks is not a good idea especally at cops....


I have a girlfriend out here who's NHP (Nevada Highway Patrol) she was backing up marshalls on a homeless guy trespassing call in a desert... now as she approached the homeless guy he started throwing rocks at her one hit her in the head the other off her vest... the head one cut her pretty good... as she was retreating calling in for backup she tripped and fell over a bigger rock that took her footing... now here she lay on her back with a crazed homeless guy coming twords her with a huge rock in his hand... she managed to pull her service weapon and get 3 shots off 2 headshots and 1 centermass.. the homeless guy died .....


now a Jury and a coroner ruled it justifiable .....

so now tell me whats the fucking difference here.....

moral of the story and I think any smart person will agree .... you throw rocks at cops you might end up dead... period..... and I don't disagree what so ever.... thats my point....

now when you make a valid point I may agree.....

http://www.mexicoreporter.com/2008/0...ustice-system/

Their legal system is pretty fucked up, just like their government

And ours isn't? :1orglaugh

1. Again, I do not have a voice in Mexican affairs. I am not a Mexican citizen.
2. The article you're referencing says right in the first line, "Sweeping overhauls to Mexico?s criminal trial system announced last week could bring the country into the modern world", which means they are doing something about it. Why aren't we?

P.S. What happened to your election thread from last night? I looked for it for over an hour last night and couldn't find it anywhere. I wanted to discuss some of the results with you last night as they were coming in, but I was unable to locate it. :(

mexico is in a different class come on man.

Oh I agree with you. But we have our own problems, and instead of fixing them we collectively point to a more fucked up system and say, "See, we aren't so bad, they are worse." which makes us feel all warm and protected, just short of snuggling up on the sofa wrapped up in a US flag. That is our country's solution to our own problems. Point fingers at someone else.

I was sentenced to 8 years & 8 months or a $1,200 fine.

My bunkmate had to do 1.5 years or pay a $400 fine.

I was out 24 hours after I got my sentence. No way he was getting out.

Definitely a bit biased towards those with cash.

Yeah I remember Obama promising sweeping overhauls, so far we have more government, less people working and all the things people complained about like the war and the patriot act are still here. I don't know what happened to that thread. not going to look for it, it went the way I thought it would, it reflected people being pissed off, mostly because of unemployment

I was told that when you travel in Mexico, keep some money some place that you could hide it. If they take your wallet when they arrest you, you have nothing to barter with. I use to have a money belt I wore when I went down there, it's not illegal to offer a bribe, just to take one. I've had to offer a few bribes to get either myself or others out. They pay their cops shit.

and i wonder why the cartels shoot up the police stations in mexico. :1orglaugh

While I don't dispute your experience, that seems really disproportionate.... $1,200 bucks versus nearly 9 years? Who thought that up? :1orglaugh
I wonder if they set fine amounts at levels they think people will be able to pay and use the excessive jail time as incentive to fork over the $$.....

I don't necessarily agree with a lot of Mexico's ways either. Bribing cops as standard everyday practice, crazy jail sentences, etc.... they need plenty of changes too.

50% of the prison population was there for minor charges such as caught with drugs or knives on their person. The fines were always around $65-85 or 4 to 6 months. 95% of them did the 4 to 6 months because Tijuana is so poverty stricken.

I didn't make the fines, but since we were expecting a $10,000 fine I won't argue with $1,200.

do you live there? if not will you go back?