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onwebcam 06-13-2010 10:06 PM

Just in case you missed Rockefeller talking about his bill last year..



You see old J.R. can't stand the fact that his criminal family roots are being exposed around the World. And his family owned newsapers, publishers, TV networks, and radio stations can't control the flow of information.

MetaMan 06-13-2010 10:45 PM

With govt never say never!

as said above govt doesnt like things that they dont control.

the internet is the last tool that is open that keeps you from being completely brainwashed. if you think the govt likes this you are tripping.

they will start with a small bill to stop "internet terrorism" and slowly move towards filtering packets on every ISP. saying that they are "protecting the network". it is coming :)

when the internet is fully regulated you will know that shit has hit the fan.

they dont take all your liberties away in one day. they slowly peel them away bit by bit so you do not notice. until one day you only have the shoes left on your feet. until they make it illegal to wear those also.

never say never it has happened throughout history.

the best thing you can do IS talk about it and help keep people informed.

big govt is bad news. the more laws they make the more it keeps the politicians in business. they care about being in business not about you.

JustDaveXxx 06-13-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17241059)
I would imagine, if we were under a cyber attack that was damaging, or about to damage our infrastructure (power grids, nuclear plants, etc.), that having a kill switch shutdown is not so bizarre.

I don't think the government would just randomly kill the internet, just for no fucking reason.

Not sure why this idea is being met with so much resistance...


This is how it starts. So called emergency use only. Then the government will try to gain more control over the internet, then try to sensor it, then tax it and ultimately tax anybody and everybody that uses it. There is nothing positive that will come of this in the long run.


Look at what happened with taxes. It started as something simple, where everyone had one simple tax that they paid. Easy and simple, everyone paid all was good. Then federal income tax, the state income tax, sales tax, property tax, utility tax, luxury tax, import tax, business tax, anything that makes money or any bill that you pay out gets taxed.


I dont think that taxing the shit out of everyone in this country was the plan when this country was formed. "No taxation with out representation" You know how many taxes get passes without anybodies knowledge ? Or all the taxes that get stuffed into bills with titles like "save our planet" or "save the trees"? Every fucking bill that gets passed taxes the shit out of the people and lines the pockets of people that have no right to our tax dollars. If people really knew in detail, where their tax dollars went, this country would be up in arms.


Anytime the government wants more control of anything, i pause with concern. Just look at our governments history with promises.:2 cents:


Thats all... sorry about standing on the soap box.:thumbsup

MetaMan 06-13-2010 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17243831)
This is how it starts. So called emergency use only. Then the government will try to gain more control over the internet, then try to sensor it, then tax it and ultimately tax anybody and everybody that uses it. There is nothing positive that will come of this in the long run.


Look at what happened with taxes. It started as something simple, where everyone had one simple tax that they paid. Easy and simple, everyone paid all was good. Then federal income tax, the state income tax, sales tax, property tax, utility tax, luxury tax, import tax, business tax, anything that makes money or any bill that you pay out gets taxed.


I dont think that taxing the shit out of everyone in this country was the plan when this country was formed. "No taxation with out representation" You know how many taxes get passes without anybodies knowledge ? Or all the taxes that get stuffed into bills with titles like "save our planet" or "save the trees"? Every fucking bill that gets passed taxes the shit out of the people and lines the pockets of people that have no right to our tax dollars. If people really knew in detail, where their tax dollars went, this country would be up in arms.


Anytime the government wants more control of anything, i pause with concern. Just look at our governments history with promises.:2 cents:


Thats all... sorry about standing on the soap box.:thumbsup

thank god some people still stop and think.

what does govt do properly EVER!?

NOTHING!

anything they touch turns into a complete shit storm. i have no idea why people are ok with giving people who have no business being in power more power. IN ANY WAY.

FetishWeb 06-14-2010 12:47 AM

New decade, new boogey-man on the horizon :1orglaugh

Sarah_Jayne 06-14-2010 04:04 AM

One day, somebody that actually understands the internet and how it works will propose a bill.

Sarah_Jayne 06-14-2010 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17241059)
I would imagine, if we were under a cyber attack that was damaging, or about to damage our infrastructure (power grids, nuclear plants, etc.), that having a kill switch shutdown is not so bizarre.

I don't think the government would just randomly kill the internet, just for no fucking reason.

Not sure why this idea is being met with so much resistance...

Yes, and the Chinese government is just protecting their population from outside news. Really, it is for their own good.

Altwebdesign 06-14-2010 04:09 AM

no no nooo!!!

ottopottomouse 06-14-2010 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 17244145)
One day, somebody that actually understands the internet and how it works will propose a bill.

Will be a few years yet though.

Was talking about something similar to one of my friends last week. When we were at school the total amount of computery stuff we did was play snake on the few computers that lived in the computer room. The internet didn't exist to the public. Computers in homes were pretty much only used for playing games on. Any children at school now have been brought up around computers and the internet and have much more of an understanding how everything works. Although it won't be instant, it won't take too long before there are people in government that do actually understand the internet.

Cyber Fucker 06-14-2010 10:56 AM

Sounds fucked up.

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Fuck'em all!

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 06-14-2010 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17244243)
Will be a few years yet though.

Was talking about something similar to one of my friends last week. When we were at school the total amount of computery stuff we did was play snake on the few computers that lived in the computer room. The internet didn't exist to the public. Computers in homes were pretty much only used for playing games on. Any children at school now have been brought up around computers and the internet and have much more of an understanding how everything works. Although it won't be instant, it won't take too long before there are people in government that do actually understand the internet.

snakes? fuck me that game was awesome! going to find a download now...


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