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dyna mo 06-13-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17243480)
I always thought it was 20 years. Do they modify that stuff?

it appears so, at least according to several articles i've read on the matter.

A generation is the time from the birth of a child to the birth of that child's first child. It varies from family to family, and can range from 20 years (or less) to 40 (or more, in rare cases).

While the usual accepted length is between 20 and 25 years, this tends to be too short (which, estimating large numbers, can cause problems).

Quite notable is the fact that, in general, the female generation length is shorter than the male generation length, because males are usually older than females in couples.

Females average around 28, and males average around 32. The difference, however, is highly culture-dependent, and may have been a bit different hundreds or thousands of years ago.

Where it used to be considered reasonable to estimate about 4 generations per century for purposes of genealogy calculations, it is now considered more reasonable to estimate 3 generation per century- even for older estimations.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-13-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17243480)
Not sure your point. Looks like you agree with me.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You're going to break his heart.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-13-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17243271)
bullshit they need to stay in school first over 50% dont finish high school :helpme

neither do redneck or ghetto kids . You didn't finish it, but look at you now.

TheDoc 06-13-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17243480)
Not sure your point. Looks like you agree with me.

Agree with what? You said...

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17243422)
I think the US Constitution disagrees. :2 cents:

Disagrees with what? What I stated is true, based off the U.S. Constitution... We all know everyone born in America is a citizen, thread topic?

That's the problem at hand - it's not logical and it's being abused because it's not clear enough. It should be changed how the majority of other Countries have it, which doesn't include allowing illegals or those breaking laws to become citizens.

TheDoc 06-13-2010 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17243566)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You're going to break his heart.

The thread title kinda hints that any moron knows America allows criminal persons to dump its children here thus allowing those half illegal children to become citizens at birth.

dyna mo 06-13-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17243750)
Agree with what? You said...



Disagrees with what? What I stated is true, based off the U.S. Constitution... We all know everyone born in America is a citizen, thread topic?

That's the problem at hand - it's not logical and it's being abused because it's not clear enough. It should be changed how the majority of other Countries have it, which doesn't include allowing illegals or those breaking laws to become citizens.

i wonder if the u.s would look to (or has ever looked to) other countries for how to alter our constitution.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-13-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17243756)
half illegal children

How are they "half-legal"? They are US citizens, moron.

TheDoc 06-13-2010 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17243844)
How are they "half-legal"? They are US citizens, moron.

Welp, it appears you can read English, so I must assume you're just a stupid ass that can't understand what you read... Here, let me help: (notice the bold)

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
"....those half illegal children to become citizens at birth"

Nobody is blaming anchor babies... it's the illegal parents fault they didn't leave the Country after the birth of the baby.

baddog 06-13-2010 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17243854)
Nobody is blaming anchor babies... it's the illegal parents fault they didn't leave the Country after the birth of the baby.

The baby would continue to be a citizen.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17243877)
The baby would continue to be a citizen.

Yes, everyone realizes that... but not if the parents left with the baby.

brassmonkey 06-14-2010 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17243569)
neither do redneck or ghetto kids . You didn't finish it, but look at you now.

:1orglaugh yeah i dropped out 5th grade to become a glass blower :helpme

escorpio 06-14-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17244280)
:1orglaugh yeah i dropped out 5th grade to become a glass blower :helpme

You're not a glass blower, you're a glass sucker.

http://slantmouth.com/articles/wayOf...rackSmoker.jpg

brassmonkey 06-14-2010 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17244411)
You're not a glass blower, you're a glass sucker.

http://slantmouth.com/articles/wayOf...rackSmoker.jpg

man i swear you act like a black man pipe snaked your wife/girlfriend. :1orglaugh :helpme did she leave you?

escorpio 06-14-2010 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17244432)
man i swear you act like a black man pipe snaked your wife/girlfriend. :1orglaugh :helpme did she leave you?

You act like a Mexican hates your guts for knocking up his puta daughter.

brassmonkey 06-14-2010 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17244446)
You act like a Mexican hates your guts for knocking up his puta daughter.

ill take that as a yes

http://www.extenze.net/images/extenze-bottle.jpg

mi burro grasa

escorpio 06-14-2010 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17244457)
ill take that as a yes

Why? Because I hit you with a painful truth about your life and all you can do is babble nonsense about male genitalia, like a typical negro?

Hank_Heartland 06-14-2010 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17243422)
I think the US Constitution disagrees. :2 cents:

Please be advised that when the Constitution was written, it excluded several races and classes of people that were not considered "FREE MEN" including slaves, indentured servants, native americans, etc, etc... Only with amendments has it come to include more and still does not include everyone who don't meet certain qualifications:thumbsup

brassmonkey 06-14-2010 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17244472)
Why? Because I hit you with a painful truth about your life and all you can do is babble nonsense about male genitalia, like a typical negro?

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...finMexican.jpg

maybe thats why :helpme :1orglaugh id like to play with you but you have nothing to say. 50+ and just racist bullshit. Do you have a proper education? im hoping you didnt have children.

Hank_Heartland 06-14-2010 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17243750)
Agree with what? You said...



Disagrees with what? What I stated is true, based off the U.S. Constitution... We all know everyone born in America is a citizen, thread topic?

That's the problem at hand - it's not logical and it's being abused because it's not clear enough. It should be changed how the majority of other Countries have it, which doesn't include allowing illegals or those breaking laws to become citizens.

Now hear this folks...every child born in the US in NOT a US citizen!!! You are dead wrong if you think so, period. Name me one foreign diplomats kid who was born here during their foreign service that's a US citizen:winkwink:

escorpio 06-14-2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17244511)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...finMexican.jpg

maybe thats why :helpme :1orglaugh id like to play with you but you have nothing to say. 50+ and just racist bullshit. Do you have a proper education? im hoping you didnt have children.

You can't spell or construct a sentence and you want to question MY education? LOL Silly negro. You should stick to whining about "racism", like a typical negro.

I have a 21 year old son. How many government supported crackbabies has your puta shit out?

brassmonkey 06-14-2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland (Post 17244528)
Now hear this folks...every child born in the US in NOT a US citizen!!! You are dead wrong if you think so, period. Name me one foreign diplomats kid who was born here during their foreign service that's a US citizen:winkwink:

that is true.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland (Post 17244528)
Now hear this folks...every child born in the US in NOT a US citizen!!! You are dead wrong if you think so, period. Name me one foreign diplomats kid who was born here during their foreign service that's a US citizen:winkwink:

Aye, that's what I've been trying to say... to them its absolute, when it's not.

brassmonkey 06-14-2010 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17244641)
Aye, that's what I've been trying to say... to them its absolute, when it's not.

its time to do a head count. :2 cents: in every state.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17243854)
Welp, it appears you can read English, so I must assume you're just a stupid ass that can't understand what you read... Here, let me help: (notice the bold)



Nobody is blaming anchor babies... it's the illegal parents fault they didn't leave the Country after the birth of the baby.

God damn, you are stupid fuck.
Please explain me this

"those half illegal children"

How are they half illegal, dumb ass?

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17244280)
:1orglaugh yeah i dropped out 5th grade to become a glass blower :helpme

Shitty designer that doesn't pay income tax?

TheDoc 06-14-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17244673)
God damn, you are stupid fuck.
Please explain me this

"those half illegal children"

How are they half illegal, dumb ass?

Is the concept really that hard to understand?

If one parent is black and the other is white, you're half black or half white... if you're parents are illegal and you being born here makes you a citizen, you're half legal or a half illegal or maybe only a 1/3 legal - ouch. Depending on how you view the cup.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17244900)
Is the concept really that hard to understand?

If one parent is black and the other is white, you're half black or half white... if you're parents are illegal and you being born here makes you a citizen, you're half legal or a half illegal or maybe only a 1/3 legal - ouch. Depending on how you view the cup.

Its not a concept, its horseshit.
If one of your parents is a convict does it make you a 1/2 convict? I would like to see you pushing that to some black kids on the streets of LA. See what they think.
If that was the case your kids would be 2/3 retarded.
There are some stupid fucks on this board, but you hold the crown.

Amputate Your Head 06-14-2010 10:13 AM

Sorry Doc, you are way, way out in left field on this one. (or rather, right field)

Amputate Your Head 06-14-2010 10:19 AM

150 Half Illegals

"Half illegal"? :1orglaugh

If they are half illegal, and the punishment for being an illegal is deportation, how do you propose to half punish them? Make them live on the border? Alternate years of deportation? They can live here every other year and have to live in Mexico the other half?

That's a POV that went off the rails.

crazytrini85 06-14-2010 10:33 AM

Good.

If you are from Russia and you are born in America, you are still a fucking Russian. People need to deal with that and stop being cry babies.

escorpio 06-14-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17245088)
Good.

If you are from Russia and you are born in America, you are still a fucking Russian. People need to deal with that and stop being cry babies.

How can you be from Russia if you're born in America?

Congrats, you just beat "half-illegal" for dumbest thing posted in this thread.

Amputate Your Head 06-14-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17245088)
Good.

If you are from Russia and you are born in America, you are still a fucking Russian. People need to deal with that and stop being cry babies.

Oh, so sorry. Try again.

If you are born in this country, you are American. Not Russian. Not Finnish. Not Danish. Not French. Not Mongolian. We aren't conceived in the womb as Russian or American. Where you are born is important.

If a group of people take off in a rocket and go to another planet, and then have a few babies, are they Russian or American babies? Or are they new citizens of the planet they are on? Russia and America are a few billion light years away from them and have zero relevance.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17245088)
Good.

If you are from Russia and you are born in America, you are still a fucking Russian. People need to deal with that and stop being cry babies.

Are you talking heritage or citizenship?
We have african americans, irish americans, chinese americans and so on. Whats your point?

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17245026)
150 Half Illegals

"Half illegal"? :1orglaugh

If they are half illegal, and the punishment for being an illegal is deportation, how do you propose to half punish them? Make them live on the border? Alternate years of deportation? They can live here every other year and have to live in Mexico the other half?

That's a POV that went off the rails.

He has yet to figure that one out.
He's half pregnant with Rodrigo's baby.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17245026)
150 Half Illegals

"Half illegal"? :1orglaugh

If they are half illegal, and the punishment for being an illegal is deportation, how do you propose to half punish them? Make them live on the border? Alternate years of deportation? They can live here every other year and have to live in Mexico the other half?

That's a POV that went off the rails.

Like that don't ya? If you use it, be sure to give me credit :)

TheDoc 06-14-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17245124)
Oh, so sorry. Try again.

If you are born in this country, you are American. Not Russian. Not Finnish. Not Danish. Not French. Not Mongolian. We aren't conceived in the womb as Russian or American. Where you are born is important.

If a group of people take off in a rocket and go to another planet, and then have a few babies, are they Russian or American babies? Or are they new citizens of the planet they are on? Russia and America are a few billion light years away from them and have zero relevance.

If you're born here by Russian parents (Russian Citizens) and you leave to go back and live in Russia, you're not an American Citizen, you will be a Russian Citizen that was born in America. If they stayed here, did all the goodies like say some illegals do - that would be different.

Amputate Your Head 06-14-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245173)
If you're born here by Russian parents (Russian Citizens) and you leave to go back and live in Russia, you're not an American Citizen, you will be a Russian Citizen that was born in America. If they stayed here, did all the goodies like say some illegals do - that would be different.

I agree, but being "illegal" or "legal" is only a matter of a piece of paper. Same as being "married" or "not-married", organ donor or not-an-organ-donor, licensed driver or unlicensed non-driver, etc... . It doesn't hinge on whether your parents were white people from Ohio or hispanic people from Juarez.

dyna mo 06-14-2010 11:09 AM

where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

Amputate Your Head 06-14-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17245218)
where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

That's an interesting question....

As a US citizen, I can apply for the proper docs to become a Mexican citizen, and still retain my US Citizenship. Mexico's laws prohibit me from ever voting in their elections even as a new citizen, but I have no idea what the options are if I were to have a child in Mexico (in that scenario). Would they be granted full dual-citizenship with voting rights in both countries? I have no clue.

EDIT: I'm sure this is happening all the time, since there are millions of Americans living in Mexico with dual citizenship, I just don't know the answer.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17245218)
where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

Be quiet. We don't want his pea brain to explode.
If you were born in the USA from let say Russian parents, you have a choice to select one or keep both citizenships on your 18th birthday.


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