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brassmonkey 06-14-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17245218)
where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

that's when you gain it legally. i know a few with dual citizenship.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17245218)
where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

Special situations today... normally you have be born before 1975. My dad can claim citizenship in the UK because he was born in the UK, however he's only a U.S. Citizen. He didn't become a UK citizen simply because he was born in the UK, but because he was born before 1975 he can request it.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17245239)
That's an interesting question....

As a US citizen, I can apply for the proper docs to become a Mexican citizen, and still retain my US Citizenship. Mexico's laws prohibit me from ever voting in their elections even as a new citizen, but I have no idea what the options are if I were to have a child in Mexico (in that scenario). Would they be granted full dual-citizenship with voting rights in both countries? I have no clue.

Mexico has 2 different categories - mexican citizens and mexican nationals.
Do some googling. Kinda interesting concept.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245245)
Special situations today... normally you have be born before 1975. My dad can claim citizenship in the UK because he was born in the UK, however he's only a U.S. Citizen. He didn't become a UK citizen simply because he was born in the UK, but because he was born before 1975 he can request it.

Are you drunk or something? Normally you have to be born before 1975? WTF?
I know plenty of people with dual citizenships. They use US passport to get out of the country and use the other one to enter the country they are from.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245267)
Are you drunk or something? Normally you have to be born before 1975? WTF?
I know plenty of people with dual citizenships. They use US passport to get out of the country and use the other one to enter the country they are from.

Hey stupid... we're talking about birth rights, not people moving and legally immigrating to countries.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 11:22 AM

Brief overview on dual citizenship

In general, countries define citizenship based on one's descent, place of birth, marriage, and/or naturalization. That is, you might be a citizen of a given country for one or more of the following reasons:
  • You were born on territory belonging to, or claimed by, that country (often called ius soli, or sometimes jus soli -- Latin for "right of the soil").
  • One or both of your parents were citizens of that country (often called ius sanguinis or jus sanguinis -- Latin for "right of the blood").
  • You married a citizen of that country (though please note that the practice of granting immediate, automatic citizenship to a foreign spouse is far less prevalent today than it was decades ago).
  • You (or one or both of your parents) obtained that country's citizenship by going through a legal process of naturalization.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245277)
Hey stupid... we're talking about birth rights, not people moving and legally immigrating to countries.

Dumb ass, that's why I told you about Jus soli.
Different countries have different rules. Your daddy's case could be entirely different from others.
I know one guy that served in Afghanistan and went on to serve with some bad ass Rangers. When he was 9 month old, he was adopted by American parents from Columbia. Army found out and made him renounce his Columbian citizenship. he has never been to Columbia or ever held Columbian passport BUT he was a dual citizen.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245280)
Brief overview on dual citizenship

In general, countries define citizenship based on one's descent, place of birth, marriage, and/or naturalization. That is, you might be a citizen of a given country for one or more of the following reasons:
  • You were born on territory belonging to, or claimed by, that country (often called ius soli, or sometimes jus soli -- Latin for "right of the soil").
  • One or both of your parents were citizens of that country (often called ius sanguinis or jus sanguinis -- Latin for "right of the blood").
  • You married a citizen of that country (though please note that the practice of granting immediate, automatic citizenship to a foreign spouse is far less prevalent today than it was decades ago).
  • You (or one or both of your parents) obtained that country's citizenship by going through a legal process of naturalization.

Thank you, captain obvious. Thank god for that google.com website.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245302)
Dumb ass, that's why I told you about Jus soli.
Different countries have different rules. Your daddy's case could be entirely different from others.
I know one guy that served in Afghanistan and went on to serve with some bad ass Rangers. When he was 9 month old, he was adopted by American parents from Columbia. Army found out and made him renounce his Columbian citizenship. he has never been to Columbia or ever held Columbian passport BUT he was a dual citizen.

Then he clearly was a Columbian Citizen when he was adopted, and I assume because was born after 1975 he can't keep both. That's how Columbia runs it I guess and an example of America dealing with special situations.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245310)
Thank you, captain obvious. Thank god for that google.com website.

Ummm... someone asked shit stain, so it's polite to provide the info..

brassmonkey 06-14-2010 11:35 AM

a fight! :helpme :helpme

Amputate Your Head 06-14-2010 11:37 AM

I love these discussions, but I'm really turned off by all the unnecessary insult slinging.... "idiot", "moron", "dumb ass", "shit stain", etc..... I've been trying to remain very conscious of it and not fall into it myself. I don't think it helps get a point across.


just my :2 cents:

continue....

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245313)
Then he clearly was a Columbian Citizen when he was adopted, and I assume because was born after 1975 he can't keep both. That's how Columbia runs it I guess and an example of America dealing with special situations.

Numb nuts, he had to renounce Columbian citizenship because he joined some elite unit in US army. Had nothing to do with 1975 birth or what ever. Where are you getting this 1975 crap?
This is probably why he had to do it:

"However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there"

Here moron, read this:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1753.html

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17245339)
I love these discussions, but I'm really turned off by all the unnecessary insult slinging.... "idiot", "moron", "dumb ass", "shit stain", etc..... I've been trying to remain very conscious of it and not fall into it myself. I don't think it helps get a point across.


just my :2 cents:

continue....

I think this guy is either fucking with us or wants to impress someone with his knowledge (more lack of it). He is absolutely clueless.

dyna mo 06-14-2010 12:43 PM

thx for the comments re: dual citizenship. i've learned a lot in this thread so far, but amputate is correct, gotta sift through all the name calling. that's gfy!

TheDoc 06-14-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17245339)
I love these discussions, but I'm really turned off by all the unnecessary insult slinging.... "idiot", "moron", "dumb ass", "shit stain", etc..... I've been trying to remain very conscious of it and not fall into it myself. I don't think it helps get a point across.


just my :2 cents:

continue....

Any reference of that on my part isn't directed at you...

TheDoc 06-14-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245369)
Numb nuts, he had to renounce Columbian citizenship because he joined some elite unit in US army. Had nothing to do with 1975 birth or what ever. Where are you getting this 1975 crap?
This is probably why he had to do it:

"However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there"

Here moron, read this:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1753.html

Aye, as I said he had Citizenship he got when he was born in that Country... and as I stated that's one of many reasons, ie: many situations

One of which I repeated for my family, if his situation is different, then that's expected...

I don't know what's more pathetic though, your reading skills or your ability to twist shit into stupid ass directions.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17245328)
a fight! :helpme :helpme

He's standing on the other side of the wall throwing bad words... I'm not border patrol, I won't shoot him for it but I might yell back.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245712)
Aye, as I said he had Citizenship he got when he was born in that Country... and as I stated that's one of many reasons, ie: many situations

One of which I repeated for my family, if his situation is different, then that's expected...

I don't know what's more pathetic though, your reading skills or your ability to twist shit into stupid ass directions.

unfucking real. Im the one here that can't read?
Lets see:

" Special situations today... normally you have be born before 1975"

and this is you "ASSumption" about my friend

" I assume because was born after 1975 he can't keep both"


WTF ? Please explain this to me. Please explain how you shitty brain functions here and how is this "about your family and your daddy". 1975. WTF is with normally and 1975?
normally ??? For who? You daddy?

Fuckit. Just turn off your router. Unplug yourself from the rest of us.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245718)
He's standing on the other side of the wall throwing bad words... I'm not border patrol, I won't shoot him for it but I might yell back.

We don't sell guns to mental patients.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17245589)
thx for the comments re: dual citizenship. i've learned a lot in this thread so far, but amputate is correct, gotta sift through all the name calling. that's gfy!

Ok, so whats with 1975?

dyna mo 06-14-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245799)
Ok, so whats with 1975?

what do you mean?

TheDoc 06-14-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245786)
unfucking real. Im the one here that can't read?
Lets see:

" Special situations today... normally you have be born before 1975"

and this is you "ASSumption" about my friend

" I assume because was born after 1975 he can't keep both"


WTF ? Please explain this to me. Please explain how you shitty brain functions here and how is this "about your family and your daddy". 1975. WTF is with normally and 1975?
normally ??? For who? You daddy?

Fuckit. Just turn off your router. Unplug yourself from the rest of us.

See the word "assume" or is this your reading skills again?

If you weren't such a prick.... I might entertain educating you, but being that you're a prick and a troll, you can suck a nut.

How about you research why the year 1975 is so damn important to dual citizenship status all over the world and then look at my org statement again. Prick.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245803)
See the word "assume" or is this your reading skills again?

If you weren't such a prick.... I might entertain educating you, but being that you're a prick and a troll, you can suck a nut.

How about you research why the year 1975 is so damn important to dual citizenship status all over the world and then look at my org statement again. Prick.

There is nothing about 1975 you dumb fuck. NOTHING.
There is NOTHING to assume if you DO NOT KNOW any better.
I gave you link to fucking gov site. Nothing about age.

Fucking imbecile. Find me where it states born before 1975. I dare you./ FIND IT NOW !!! Its an order.
GO !!!!

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17245802)
what do you mean?

What diud you learn about being born before 1975 and dual citizenship. because I have no clue what fucktard Doc is talking about.

dyna mo 06-14-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245839)
What diud you learn about being born before 1975 and dual citizenship. because I have no clue what fucktard Doc is talking about.

i was speaking about the thread, in general. it's caused me to do some reading up on all the different matters. i'm not going to get into the fight.

:)

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 02:01 PM

Here dipshit, google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

So is your father German or British?

Motherfucker doesn't know his fathers roots and here he is talking shit about it. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17245845)
i was speaking about the thread, in general. it's caused me to do some reading up on all the different matters. i'm not going to get into the fight.

:)


Is there anyway you can teach that to shit for brains doc?
His entire knowledge of this matter is based on what his german/english (we're about to find out he is actually a Turk) daddy told him.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245846)
Here dipshit, google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

So is your father German or British?

Motherfucker doesn't know his fathers roots and here he is talking shit about it. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Well at least we know you can do some searches using Google... but you clearly can't read.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245862)
Well at least we know you can do some searches using Google... but you clearly can't read.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
and Under rock you crawl.
So is your daddy german or what? Close enough. English, german.. same shit. :1orglaugh

TheDoc 06-14-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245868)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
and Under rock you crawl.
So is your daddy german or what? Close enough. English, german.. same shit. :1orglaugh

I forgive you man... English isn't your first language, I can't expect you to understand how to use Google let alone read it.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 02:14 PM

what a quack

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

german, english. Oh fuck it, something from that part of town.

WHAT AN IDIOT :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://weblogs.ryerson.ca/roller/jrn...g_his_nose.jpg

TheDoc 06-14-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245881)
what a quack

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

german, english. Oh fuck it, something from that part of town.

WHAT AN IDIOT :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You don't get any trolling points, but I will add a few to your level of stupidity. Here, let me give you a hint. It's more than Germany, lots more... or maybe if you knew the proper names of Countries it would help.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245878)
I forgive you man... English isn't your first language, I can't expect you to understand how to use Google let alone read it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Best you could come up with?
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So let us see the quote from google about US dual citizenship and 1975 ..

lets see it, hombre. Oh god, I wish there were deportation rules for useless tools like this doc guy.
Send his aSs to Africa or some other remote place. Australia maybe?

Pics Traffic 06-14-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245890)
You don't get any trolling points, but I will add a few to your level of stupidity. Here, let me give you a hint. It's more than Germany, lots more... or maybe if you knew the proper names of Countries it would help.

We get it. He dumped you two. You've never seen the guy. All you heard is the story of what a man he was.
Got it. German, English, frenchie.. Mommy just couldn't keep a lie.

PS: What are two fighting about?

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17245890)
You don't get any trolling points, but I will add a few to your level of stupidity. Here, let me give you a hint. It's more than Germany, lots more... or maybe if you knew the proper names of Countries it would help.

WTF Germany has to do with US citizenship rules?
Where does it say USA and 1975 birth rule.
Show me now !!!

brassmonkey 06-14-2010 02:24 PM

Doc please dont feed the ape. he's trying to piss you off.

TheDoc 06-14-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17245891)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Best you could come up with?
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So let us see the quote from google about US dual citizenship and 1975 ..

lets see it, hombre. Oh god, I wish there were deportation rules for useless tools like this doc guy.
Send his aSs to Africa or some other remote place. Australia maybe?

I get plenty of Countries and history of changes when I do my research... Hell even a simple search like: dual citizenship and 1975 returns various Countries of current time that have this set, looks like Canada recently updated to0.

This is truly the lamest trolling job, ever...

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-14-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17245915)
Doc please dont feed the ape. he's trying to piss you off.

http://danthemantrivia.files.wordpre...turn-image.jpg

TheDoc 06-14-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17245915)
Doc please dont feed the ape. he's trying to piss you off.

Honestly... I'm 0% pissed and 100% finding it funny, he's a half illegal and he's pissed off about it.


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