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The Duck 06-13-2010 02:38 PM
I hear what you are saying however baseball is a huge sport in many Asian countries.

roly 06-13-2010 02:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberClaire (Post 17242418)
But didnt they just draw thier first game against England ? if you DRAW in a match against someone doesnt it put you on par with them ?
you don't judge a team by one game

roly 06-13-2010 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17243081)
based on this wiki article, the % of commercials is ~the same for europe, gb and the usa so i don't see how the above comments apply.

we all get bombarded with commercials.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_advertisement
what he's saying is that there's 45minutes per half, so you can only have an ad break before it starts at half time and at the end, so 3 ad breaks in 90+ minutes.

dyna mo 06-13-2010 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roly (Post 17243148)
what he's saying is that there's 45minutes per half, so you can only have an ad break before it starts at half time and at the end, so 3 ad breaks in 90+ minutes.
i see now, it's a tv conspiracy! i wouldn't doubt that but according to the article, euro&uk tele just lumps more ads into one chunk instead of spacing them out between several breaks so it's the same amount of advertising.

either way,

thx for the clarification. :thumbsup

roly 06-13-2010 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17243163)
i see now, it's a tv conspiracy! i wouldn't doubt that but according to the article, euro&uk tele just lumps more ads into one chunk instead of spacing them out between several breaks so it's the same amount of advertising.

either way,

thx for the clarification. :thumbsup
well according to your link:

US: a typical 30-minute block of time now includes 22 minutes of programming with six minutes of national advertising and two minutes of local. Some networks even use a 18 minutes of show/12 minutes of commercial split.

so between 16minutes and 24minutes of ad breaks per hour

UK: the amount of airtime allowed by the UK broadcasting regulator Ofcom for advertising is an overall average of 7 minutes per hour, with limits of 12 minutes for any particular clock hour (8 minutes per hour between 6pm and 11pm).

7 minutes per hour, or no adverts on the bbc

quite a difference

J. Falcon 06-13-2010 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17242270)
They are not good enough at it.

They love sports they are top at, Baseball, American Football, Ice Hockey and Basketball. Even if the rest of the world hardly plays some of these sports it does not matter, they are the top at them. Where do they play Baseball or American Football in earnest beside America?

They even call the Baseball finals The World Series . :upsidedow

If the USA Football team rises to the top 5 nations in the world then Americans will start to love it. Until then it will be a minor sport in the US.

It's called Football not soccer. American Football has little to do with feet except for kicking the extra point, standing and running on. :1orglaugh

Baseball is practiced in all Central America and many parts of Asia. USA is not the best in neither basketball nor baseball.

Mutt 06-13-2010 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17243194)
Baseball is practiced in all Central America and many parts of Asia. USA is not the best in neither basketball nor baseball.
:1orglaugh

Rochard 06-13-2010 03:17 PM
If you think about it, all sports are gay. Most sports are wealthy well hung men in tight uniforms with other men in tight uniforms chasing around balls and then showering together.

rogueteens 06-13-2010 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roly (Post 17243182)
so between 16minutes and 24minutes of ad breaks per hour
Fuck me! Is it worth watching telly at all?

BTW you guys must get more ad breaks than us in the UK, its quite obvious on US shows shown here where the edit breaks are on the shows that have been spiced back together for showing in the UK

dyna mo 06-13-2010 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roly (Post 17243182)
well according to your link:

US: a typical 30-minute block of time now includes 22 minutes of programming with six minutes of national advertising and two minutes of local. Some networks even use a 18 minutes of show/12 minutes of commercial split.

so between 16minutes and 24minutes of ad breaks per hour

UK: the amount of airtime allowed by the UK broadcasting regulator Ofcom for advertising is an overall average of 7 minutes per hour, with limits of 12 minutes for any particular clock hour (8 minutes per hour between 6pm and 11pm).

7 minutes per hour, or no adverts on the bbc

quite a difference
that's ~20%, not far off from ~30%.


from the same link-

Quote:
Europe

In many European countries television advertisements appear in longer, but less frequent advertising breaks. For example, instead of 3 minutes every 8 minutes, there might be around 6 minutes every half hour. European Union legislation limits the time taken by commercial breaks to 12 minutes per hour (20%), with a minimum segment length of 20 or 30 minutes, depending on the programme content.

my point remains re: soccer. i doubt it's a conspiracy by the networks and these #s belie that.

GatorB 06-13-2010 04:13 PM
Euro guy: "Americans you are stupid. You call football soccer and your "football" doesn't even use the foot. In fact all your sports are boring and stupid. REAL football is the best sport all American sports are gay. Now please tell me why you don't like our football? This confounds me."

Figure it out yourself Eurotrash.

~Ray 06-13-2010 04:15 PM
the matches take place at odd hours.

However, we control the times for our football/baseball/basketball/etc.. and we Americans like control.

dyna mo 06-13-2010 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17243289)
Euro guy: "Americans you are stupid. You call football soccer and your "football" doesn't even use the foot. In fact all your sports are boring and stupid. REAL football is the best sport all American sports are gay. Now please tell me why you don't like our football? This confounds me."

Figure it out yourself Eurotrash.
don't forget-

and you're all fat.

pocketkangaroo 06-13-2010 04:39 PM
If the best athletes in America played soccer, we would win every World Cup. Sorry, but our soccer team is filled with our 6th tier athletes. The best athletes play football and basketball.

pocketkangaroo 06-13-2010 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17243194)
Baseball is practiced in all Central America and many parts of Asia. USA is not the best in neither basketball nor baseball.
Maybe not baseball, but we dominate in basketball. It's not even close.

Grapesoda 06-13-2010 05:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17243202)
If you think about it, all sports are gay. Most sports are wealthy well hung men in tight uniforms with other men in tight uniforms chasing around balls and then showering together.
millionaires playing catch

Grapesoda 06-13-2010 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 17243228)
Fuck me! Is it worth watching telly at all?

BTW you guys must get more ad breaks than us in the UK, its quite obvious on US shows shown here where the edit breaks are on the shows that have been spiced back together for showing in the UK
a typical 'film' or play is 3 acts.. tv shows are typically 7 acts

GatorB 06-13-2010 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17243202)
If you think about it, all sports are gay. Most sports are wealthy well hung men in tight uniforms with other men in tight uniforms chasing around balls and then showering together.
Exactly how do you know they are well hung?

Major (Tom) 06-13-2010 11:16 PM
When I was in HS, the only kids who played soccer were the ones who weren't allowed to play football.
DS

Mr. E 06-13-2010 11:21 PM
The US doesnt give a shit about it for many reasons. Its boring as shit and does not translate well to TV, scoreless ties and the players are the biggest pussies in the world. These guys go down like they have been shot and roll around on the ground in pain nearly everytime they get their feet tangled up or get touched. Even Paul Pierce yells at them to get the fuck up and stop acting.

bjlover 06-14-2010 02:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17243071)
do they show less tele commericals in europe and gb?
They dont put any add breaks when the game is playing in any of the main playing countries.

So that is 45 minutes each way without adds, with a few adds in the break in the middle, when everyone goes to the toilet or grabs a beer, or does whatever but dont watch the adds

Thats why US TV stations dont push it. You cant have adverts running while the game is playing and there is no natural breaks to put adds.

It simply makes revenues from adverts lower. So they dont push soccer.

bjlover 06-14-2010 02:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17243249)
that's ~20%, not far off from ~30%.

That's 50% more adverts

scottybuzz 06-14-2010 02:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 17242530)
they love a sport that has 100's of commercials
Commercials = $$$
End of story
Theres not commercials in football? Ok theres 1 break, but just look around the pitch

Vjo 06-14-2010 03:19 AM
American football? There is only football. And then soccer. :)

Soccer is no contact. Football has contact.

Anyhow these guys think soccer is kind of girlie manish :)

CunningStunt 06-14-2010 04:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17242270)
They are not good enough at it.

They love sports they are top at, Baseball, American Football, Ice Hockey and Basketball. Even if the rest of the world hardly plays some of these sports it does not matter, they are the top at them. Where do they play Baseball or American Football in earnest beside America?

They even call the Baseball finals The World Series . :upsidedow

If the USA Football team rises to the top 5 nations in the world then Americans will start to love it. Until then it will be a minor sport in the US.

It's called Football not soccer. American Football has little to do with feet except for kicking the extra point, standing and running on. :1orglaugh
I couldn't agree more. The most watched game in the world, and they name it wrong, diss it at every opportunity, then say it's boring when the scores are only 2-0 instead of 1541234-35134 after 11 hours of stop start "action". :1orglaugh American sports suck donkey nuts.

ottopottomouse 06-14-2010 04:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17243202)
If you think about it, all sports are gay. Most sports are wealthy well hung men in tight uniforms with other men in tight uniforms chasing around balls and then showering together.
Did you enjoy thinking about it? :upsidedow

With tv viewing being much higher than attendance any sports popularity is going to be partly down to what the tv companies want to show as they know which things they can show well in a way they can make money out of.

scarlettcontent 06-14-2010 04:52 AM
USA will love soccer if they win the world cup

NetHorse 06-14-2010 04:53 AM
Soccer is for fags. End of discussion. :thumbsup

Domain Diva 06-14-2010 04:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roly (Post 17243138)
you don't judge a team by one game

but after the group stages ...I hear that the organisers of the cup plan on doing it that way to find a winner ! :winkwink::)

candyflip 06-14-2010 04:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17243194)
Baseball is practiced in all Central America and many parts of Asia. USA is not the best in neither basketball nor baseball.
Most of the times, in international play...we're sending out College and High School boys while they send the best their country has to offer.

Put any of them up against the NY Yankees or pretty much any other MLB team and see them get shellacked time and time again.

SinisterStudios 06-14-2010 05:12 AM
Less than 10 miles from my house RedBull built the first US soccer stadium ( built for soccer only) Right in the middle of the Portuguese ,Brazilian, and Latin areas, so im sure your going to See more and more soccer related stuff coming from here. Although i think Soccer is boring as shit, the tickets are cheap and ill probally go watch some games.

roly 06-14-2010 05:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17243249)
that's ~20%, not far off from ~30%.


from the same link-




my point remains re: soccer. i doubt it's a conspiracy by the networks and these #s belie that.
that's between 200% to 340% more

Paul Markham 06-14-2010 05:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scarlettcontent (Post 17244229)
USA will love soccer if they win the world cup
My point entirely.

They will love football as they get to the top rankings.

roly 06-14-2010 05:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberClaire (Post 17244238)
but after the group stages ...I hear that the organisers of the cup plan on doing it that way to find a winner ! :winkwink::)
by then all the teams will have settled down, england allways start slow, we drew the first game when we won the world cup in 1966 and we drew the first game when we got to the semi finals. i'm notr saying england will win the whole thing but we'll win the group and should get to the quarter or semi finals (where we will go out on penalties as usual), then you just need a bit of luck.

Serial Pervert 06-14-2010 06:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 17242423)
Baseball sucks and is boring.
agreed :thumbsup

dyna mo 06-14-2010 07:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjlover (Post 17243992)
That's 50% more adverts
no way! damn, that's like almost 2 minutes huh.

dyna mo 06-14-2010 07:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roly (Post 17244267)
that's between 200% to 340% more

what math are you using?

UniqueD 06-14-2010 07:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17243087)
The American team is getting better. It's just a matter of time until the US wins its first WC.

American spectators don't like it due to the scoring system.
Add a 3 and 7 point goal and it will be a huge hit!

I personally like to watch football(soccer) i just dont pay for cable or satellite so i never get to see it on tv.

CDSmith 06-14-2010 09:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scarlettcontent (Post 17244229)
USA will love soccer if they win the world cup
Nevermind win it. Mark my words, the instant team USA makes it into a semifinal world cup match US viewership will rise a hundredfold.

Penthouse Tony 06-14-2010 10:11 AM
In the US the best athletes go to the sports that pay them more, football, baseball, basketball and hockey. As soccer starts paying more the US will field better teams. It's already happening.

quiet 06-14-2010 10:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 17243008)
Oh and some of the biggest whining actors next to Hollywood. You touch a soccer player he acts like hes dying.
this is my main beef with soccer. hockey or rugby, you get your teeth knocked out, and you keep playing.

J. Falcon 06-14-2010 11:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 17243336)
Maybe not baseball, but we dominate in basketball. It's not even close.
Are you kidding? I know the US won this last gold medal, but have you seen the Olympics the last decade or so? It had been a while before US came in first.

J. Falcon 06-14-2010 11:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17244239)
Most of the times, in international play...we're sending out College and High School boys while they send the best their country has to offer.

Put any of them up against the NY Yankees or pretty much any other MLB team and see them get shellacked time and time again.
Most Major League teams are like 90% latino players so please explain to me how that would work?

roly 06-14-2010 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17244510)
what math are you using?
16minutes / 7minutes x 100 = 228%


24minutes / 7minutes x 100 = 342&

dyna mo 06-14-2010 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17245226)
Most Major League teams are like 90% latino players
that's entirely incorrect.

dyna mo 06-14-2010 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roly (Post 17245233)
16minutes / 7minutes x 100 = 228%


24minutes / 7minutes x 100 = 342&
that's cool, it was my understanding there would be no maths used here at gfy.:1orglaugh (that's a snl joke btw)
nevertheless, pointing out the math is tangential to my post, which was ads are shown at the break so it really doesn't have anything to do with why america does not like footsie.

roly 06-14-2010 11:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 17244992)
In the US the best athletes go to the sports that pay them more, football, baseball, basketball and hockey. As soccer starts paying more the US will field better teams. It's already happening.
there's 2 football (soccer) players in the worlds top 10 highest earning sports stars at the moment (beckham #2, ronaldinho #8). if they're good enough footballers can earn mega money.

http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/20...-in-the-world/

candyflip 06-14-2010 11:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SinisterStudios (Post 17244260)
Less than 10 miles from my house RedBull built the first US soccer stadium ( built for soccer only) Right in the middle of the Portuguese ,Brazilian, and Latin areas, so im sure your going to See more and more soccer related stuff coming from here. Although i think Soccer is boring as shit, the tickets are cheap and ill probally go watch some games.
We're a fairly small to medium sized city, and we've had a dedicated Soccer staduim for the past 10 or so years.

http://www.soccer-training-info.com/...aetec_park.jpg

This is in addition to a really nice Minor League ball park about a mile from it. You can see that in the background.

ADL Colin 06-14-2010 01:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17242351)
that's the stupidest fucking thing you've said here.
no it's not

Penthouse Tony 06-14-2010 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roly (Post 17245257)
there's 2 football (soccer) players in the worlds top 10 highest earning sports stars at the moment (beckham #2, ronaldinho #8). if they're good enough footballers can earn mega money.

http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/20...-in-the-world/
Yes but in the US you make more on money on average in other sports. For now.


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