My perception is you have provided no facts to prove everything is worse, probably because that would contradict your reality that things are worse.

http://www.videovat.com/ug3874/south...urfingnet.aspx




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It really makes no difference who he is... the point was, he didn't make a racist statement in his article.

Obama's skin is black, that's what you pointed out. No need to explain it.

P.S. The article is filed under: ON THE RIGHT - You were saying?

If I think things are worse, than how would it contradict my reality that "things are worse"? I mean do you even bother thinking before you type? And there's no need to provide any facts when anyone argues with you because you ignore them or call them "right wing propaganda". Unemployment is worse, budget deficit is worse, national debt is worse, trade deficit is worse, the dollar is worse, I mean I could continue but everybody else gets the point. It just seems that you're back to typical denial.

This wasn't the point. You always scream "racism" when someone criticizes Obama. Now you can't:)

You're right, because you're the only one here who actually believes the hilarious bullshit you type. There was no racist statement, no matter what you tell yourself.

On the left propaganda. Too easy.

Give it sometime... the Oil Industry is America, and just cutting the head off this beast will probably just enrage it. However I do agree that this should have been corrected when he first came in, and more regulation is needed, now - before this happens again.

But I also know how tied to the Oil Industry our entire Gov is, so I'm willing to wait and see how this plays out a bit more. Sad as it is to say, I think we're going to need this disaster to get worse before the pressure can really be turned up.

No, I wrote racism because you made a racist remark about his skin color in relation to other presidents that happen to be white.






Only a tea bagger ignores the facts.

Hahaha.. unemployment has improved from when Bush left office, hosing dropped has stopped, the budget and debt was corrected under Obama - ie: Bush war money applied correctly and now being applied correctly... Oh so bad to show the correct numbers. The dollar is stronger than when Bush left office.

This is why I asked you to provide facts... your 'theories' are so wrapped in racism that you can't see the truth smacking you in the face.

I rest my case.

Yes, that's why I asked you to provide facts first...

http://www.businessinsider.com/chart...tration-2010-2

http://www.atr.org/point-million-job...r-obama-a3342#

http://www.aei.org/article/102204

I mean everybody else gets the point so I'll amuse myself by watching you argue against facts and claim these sources are biased or "right wing propaganda."

Again, I must reiterate. There is no difference between Bush and Obama except-

maybe 40 IQ points and suntan.

These guys are from the same corrupt system and things will not change until people get a belly-full of the lies and propaganda. The arguments you guys are making are absolutely of no substance. Instead, they are talking points and mantra espoused by the elites that run the parties. This banter does nothing but entrench opinions and solves no problems. I think everyone basically agrees things have been fucked up for a while... but the powers that-be have turned politics into a football game and divided the average joe, Fox new sucks- Cnn is just as bad. Time to wake up guys... the government lies and until there is some sort of revolution, expect more of the same.

You're showing Jobs still suck, but grew under Obama? I asked you to prove that things are worse, not getting better... come on now.

Once again I rest my case, Please keep embarrassing yourself by arguing against facts and making up your own.

We do not vote in a dictator, we vote in a president. A president will be the de-facto "leader" for 4 to 8 years.

My guess is, as soon as you become president you are sat down, and you are told how the game works.

It is likely irrelevant what the person elected as the temporary leader really wants to do - the system is much bigger than the person.

The oil industry for example, has been around much longer, and is waaaay more powerful than any one person, so we never really switch out oil for alternate energy options in any big way.

For better or for worse, no ONE person walks in out of nowhere, and gets to call the shots.

Unless the President is already well connected (ie Bush Senior, previous head of the CIA - Bush W, tied to oil like white on rice), it is very difficult to get anything done.

Sad, but true...

http://static.businessinsider.com/im...510-update.gif

See that big increase in jobs lost on the left, vs. the decrease under Obama's side? That's an improvement...

Which happens to be a BLS estimate under the Obama Administration. Sorry, you lose Doc. Bush unemployment went as high as 7.6%. Obama has toppled him.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/02...ck-blame-bush/

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-...sh-under-obama

http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com...han-you-think/

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/...t-in-pictures/

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/oba..._bush_deficit/

And yes, I expect you'll scream at the sources and/or focus on the dates, forgetting the fact that it's actually worse now than a year ago. I win:)

The graphic is from the url you posted... it shows jobs lost, per your example - not as many jobs are being lost under Obama. It's easy to understand.

If you want to talk about unemployment numbers, they are higher today, we had a lot of jobs lost. However the decline has stopped, and they're now slowly improving - which every economist says is a very slow process.

You said Obama made things worse, and thus far you have not proven that.

You have just proven my point that Obama has made things worse, and in the last paragraph you contradict yourself. This is too easy. The decline hasn't stopped at all, as every month there are hundreds of thousands jobs lost. Obama tried to fool the American people by hiring 400,000 census workers, which don't count as real jobs, nor add any productivity to the economy. I've provided ample evidence, you're back to your usual denial when you're proven wrong, this is fun.

Yeah sources are trash... here use this:

http://www.miseryindex.us/URbymonth.asp Oh snap, unemployment has steadied out and is improving.

As for the deficit and debt, as stated... when you correct the dirty books that Bush was running, not putting the war costs on the books, of course the numbers that were already extremly bad and the worst in history, get corrected and actually show how bad the damage is. Today, we're paying for that... suck it up and credit the damage to the proper person.

I hope you're not putting all your 'things are worse' on Obama over unemployment... that would be rather laughable.

The only thing that's laughable as you predictably ignoring 10+ sources, and claiming your only source is the correct one. Please continue amusing us with your denial.

http://www.tradersnarrative.com/wp-c...Jan%202010.png

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/w...yment-2010.png

Oh snap!! What's even funnier is you're using the census jobs that were created as an argument for "unemployment is going down!!" Lol, I'm enjoying this.

Dang, based on that graphs unemployment numbers, Obama is putting the economic smack down on the mighty Reagan.

Are you looking at the same graph we're looking, or are you in the advanced stages of denial? Based on your own single source(lol), Reagan made Obama his bitch.

Also:

http://startthinkingright.wordpress....l-for-america/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-a..._b_341348.html

http://portalseven.com/employment/un...80&toYear=2009

Owned.

"YOUR SOURCES ARE GARBAGE!!!"-TheDoc

Those are some great opinion blogs...

http://www.bls.gov/ 9.7% in May 2010

That's some great government manipulation by the Obama Administration. Silly them, claiming unemployment is going down because they hire 400,000 census workers:) Owned

LMAO, I love when you guys bring up this chart,You're excited about we have stop loosing so many jobs, but does that matter to the 10% of the population that's getting unemployment, or that when Obama revels in the fact that the stimulus created 10k new jobs, never mind that there were 400k new unemployment claims for the same time period? Or that Obama revels in new jobs created in the government, who are paid with the taxes of those that are still employed, I have to wonder what kind of fuzzy math you guys are snorting?

Obama = FAIL on Jobs
Obama = FAIL on everything, he pushed the health care bill that we can't afford and don't want, he doesn't care, he has his agenda
Obama = FAIL on the oil spill, you guys that support Obama were all over GW's shit over Katrina, but that hardly compares to the major fuck up to the world under the Obama Administration
You guys voted in Obama because of the wars GW started, here we are 18 months later
He's going down as the biggest loser as a president
His approval rating has dropped faster than any president, even faster that GW, it's took years for GW's ratings to drop, for Obama it was months

Reagan's peak unemployment rate: 10.8%
Obama's peak unemployment rate: 10.1%

If half the time Obama stopped the increase, and so far hasn't had enough time to compare an improvement.

Reagan's unemployment went down like crazy to around 6%. Obama's is over 10% and growing, while the BLS has desperately tried to change the way unemployment is measured the past 2 years, and extending unemployment benefits to manipulate the charts.:thumbsup

The Demon posted the URL, I simply posted the chart... so you might want to correct who brings the chart up.

Obama hasn't had enough time to improve on jobs based on how long it has taken every other president in history.

I love the healthcare bill and know tons of people that do as well.

Of course people dieing and being forgot about and starving and blacks being rounded up after Katrina is far less of a problem than whatever Obama hasn't done with the Oil spill that you think he should have done.

I didn't vote for Obama...

You might want to check the approval rating statistics again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...pproval_rating

Just checking in on page 3 of a Demon thread to see how it's going.

Yep, the earth must still be turning. Carry on :)

It is much easier to complain, than it is to fix the problems.

Tax breaks for the rich did not help anyone but the rich.

Tax breaks for corporations that fuck the middle class did not help.

Less regulation for banks and Wall Street did not help.

Starting two unfunded wars in the middle east was not wise.

Continuing our reliance on fossil fuels, especially oil, does not help.

Allowing politicians to be funded by special interests does not help.

ETC...

Instead of complaining about Obama non-stop, how about offering solutions?

PS - If your solutions are already listed above, please try again.

While Reagan was President the numbers went from steady, to much worse. Basically 3 years of getting worse. It took him a 1 1/2 years to get it back to were it was was, and another 2 years to get it down to 6%.

How about you give Obama that amount of time Reagan required or does he only get 1/8 the the time, for some reason?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...pproval_rating

This kinda proves our point Doc. Next time try using sources that help your argument. Plus, Obama has been on the lower side of the 40% disapproval for the better part of the past year.:)

Their only problem is Obama.

Case closed, lmao.

Are you looking at the same graphs we're looking, or are you continuing to make things up? Obama's #s keep going down(up in unemployment) all across the chart, while Reagan's kept going up(down in unemployment). Sorry, we're giving the same criticism to Obama that the few retards on this forum give to Bush. Can't handle it, then quit the double standards.

And the Democratic party. Your only problem was Bush and the Republican Party. +1 for hypocrisy and double standards:)

what do you mean? :)

Nothing, he brings to the table the same thing the other liberals on this forum do. No common sense, no argument, just hilarious comments.

It is pathetic isn't it?

Obama is trying to help the middle class now that the GOP has placed the US in its worst position of our lifetime, and the Obama haters are so blinded by their own hatred, that rather than work together for a common good, they would rather just bash Obama, so that what? So that the same people that got us here can get back in power?

Sad...