Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269522)

It is pathetic isn't it?

Obama is trying to help the middle class now that the GOP has placed the US in its worst position of our lifetime, and the Obama haters are so blinded by their own hatred, that rather than work together for a common good, they would rather just bash Obama, so that what? So that the same people that got us here can get back in power?

Sad...

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17269525)

Definitely sad. The whole "blame the Republicans" rhetoric is hilarious, seeing as how Obama and the Democrats have destroyed this country in 2 years, far more than Bush could have in 8. Gotta love stupid people though, thanks for the amusement BFT3K.:winkwink:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269530)

It is hard to imagine a person more ignorant than yourself.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17269535)

It's definitely NOT had to imagine you being as dumb as they come, even by porn webmaster standards:) :) :)

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269539)

Anybody who told you to be yourself simply couldn't have given you worse advice...

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17269545)

Shouldn't you be embarrassed that you're a grown man who possesses a legally retarded IQ?

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269522)

It is pathetic isn't it?

Obama is trying to help the middle class now that the GOP has placed the US in its worst position of our lifetime, and the Obama haters are so blinded by their own hatred, that rather than work together for a common good, they would rather just bash Obama, so that what? So that the same people that got us here can get back in power?

Sad...

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17269573)

that's really not an accurate portrayal, at least from where i stand.

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17269578)

Help me, because admittedly I am not too bright? What is an unfunded war? Is there a funded war we have had? I am really confused when it is said Bush and his "unfunded wars". Didn't congress approve funds for Iraq and Afghanistan? Declaration of war and passing spending bills for war funding aren't the same thing?? Really, I am stupid... help me understand why this is different than Viet Nam or Korea... or were those unfunded wars too?

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17269573)

that's really not an accurate portrayal, at least from where i stand.

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269587)

Please enlighten us as to how YOU would be fixing the world's problems, or even just the US problems. I am very curious....

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17269608)

I know this question was directed at dynamo, but I have to ask.... Obama wasnt elected to fix the world's problems. He was elected to get us out of the war and fix the economy. Maybe I misunderstood his platform.... but I thought that was the change promised. I dont see much change... do you?

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269587)

Please enlighten us as to how YOU would be fixing the world's problems, or even just the US problems. I am very curious....

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17269487)

The Demon posted the URL, I simply posted the chart... so you might want to correct who brings the chart up.

Obama hasn't had enough time to improve on jobs based on how long it has taken every other president in history.

I love the healthcare bill and know tons of people that do as well.

Of course people dieing and being forgot about and starving and blacks being rounded up after Katrina is far less of a problem than whatever Obama hasn't done with the Oil spill that you think he should have done.

I didn't vote for Obama...

You might want to check the approval rating statistics again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...pproval_rating

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269498)

It is much easier to complain, than it is to fix the problems.

Tax breaks for the rich did not help anyone but the rich.

Tax breaks for corporations that fuck the middle class did not help.

Starting two unfunded wars in the middle east was not wise.

Continuing our reliance on fossil fuels, especially oil, does not help.

Allowing politicians to be funded by special interests does not help.

ETC...

Instead of complaining about Obama non-stop, how about offering solutions?

PS - If your solutions are already listed above, please try again.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17269499)

While Reagan was President the numbers went from steady, to much worse. Basically 3 years of getting worse. It took him a 1 1/2 years to get it back to were it was was, and another 2 years to get it down to 6%.

How about you give Obama that amount of time Reagan required or does he only get 1/8 the the time, for some reason?

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17269630)

I have offered solutions, get rid of NAFTA, make it a level playing field for American companies to compete with foreign labor. less government means less taxes. More people working in better paying jobs means more people have healthcare. Use a pipe that goes inside the oil leak and inflates seals with hydraulic pressure to seal the fit with no leaks. Pull out of the two wars completely, drill for domestic oil, control it to supply the US first, then sell to other countries to bring down the price of oil world wide, taking away the money from the middle east and bankrupt them like Reagan brought down the USSR with star wars. Then when the economy can handle it, work on green energy, fire up the nuclear reactors and run them like the military runs reactors on a nuclear sub, no worries.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17269630)

We need heathcare reform, but you have to admit when Pelosi said we'll know whats in the healthcare bill after it's voted on, well that was kinda scary, now they are after reading everything, that it will not work like Obama said it will, employers have to cut back to afford the changes, it was not voted in bipartisan, it should have been, a good president would have got the two sides to work together on that.



We've had this discussion, Obama even said that less people are paying ANY taxes, it's because poor people and most middle income people pay ZERO taxes, so any tax cuts that only benefit the rich, it's just a way for the democratic machine to spin it.

I have offered solutions, get rid of NAFTA, make it a level playing field for American companies to compete with foreign labor. less government means less taxes. More people working in better paying jobs means more people have healthcare. Use a pipe that goes inside the oil leak and inflates seals with hydraulic pressure to seal the fit with no leaks. Pull out of the two wars completely, drill for domestic oil, control it to supply the US first, then sell to other countries to bring down the price of oil world wide, taking away the money from the middle east and bankrupt them like Reagan brought down the USSR with star wars. Then when the economy can handle it, work on green energy, fire up the nuclear reactors and run them like the military runs reactors on a nuclear sub, no worries.




If I saw one thing that would indicate that things might get better, I would agree with you, but doing the math, it doesn't add up. And remember it got worse under a democrat controlled house and senate, so I'm not looking to the democrats to make things better

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17267562)

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17269704)

Wow, so much good stuff in your post.

NAFTA was a republican fuck you from the get-go. Whoever didn't see this as a shift of the manufacturing base(and an attack on the middle class) was an imbecile.

Healthcare will never be reformed as long as lobbyists are free to throw money around like a drunken shriner at a whorehouse... without tort reform there will always be problems with health care costs and delivery.

The class warfare that the US taxcode inflicts on US society is nothing short of evil. The very wealthy pay little tax while those that work and make the economy click are ridden like beggars on a borrowed horse.

I would actually feel good about Obama if he pulled a JFK on our dependency on oil. JFK made it a national initiative to land a man on the moon. If Obama would set aside 1 trillion dollars to the first company that produced an internal combustion engine(or something equivalent) on a renewable energy source, our dependency on oil would all but cease. But that will never happen as the oil companies spend too much money in Washington.

I could go on and on about what should happen... but until money and politics aren't synonymous, I am just pissing in the wind. Obama sucks more than Bush. At least Obama is intelligent enough to know he's fucking America... Bush I am not so sure he had a clue.

Originally Posted by Serial Pervert (Post 17269717)

nice pic!

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269660)

And I will respond in the same way I responded last time you were daydreaming on this board...

I would like a magic lamp, complete with a sexy genie who grants wishes.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17269733)

Yet you offer no criticism or debate?

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269723)

How do you support healthcare reform and alternate energy, and then bash Obama? WTF?! I was agreeing with most of your post until you drew that bizarre conclusion.

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17269578)

Help me, because admittedly I am not too bright? What is an unfunded war? Is there a funded war we have had? I am really confused when it is said Bush and his "unfunded wars". Didn't congress approve funds for Iraq and Afghanistan? Declaration of war and passing spending bills for war funding aren't the same thing?? Really, I am stupid... help me understand why this is different than Viet Nam or Korea... or were those unfunded wars too?

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17268521)

A spell checker would not have picked it up, as "your" is also a properly spelled word.

Here's a funny Japanese Jet Pack...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=LHf-ocT9n3E

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17269817)

Perhaps he meant 'unfounded'. Because both of them are certainly unfounded.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17269743)

Haven't you noticed that BFT3K is a moron? He can't debate logically, nor use facts. His only response will be some kind of retarded insult that draws attention away from the debate. He's incredibly easy to ridicule.

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17269848)

Quite possibly. I thought gw was criticized for fighting in Iraq when he should have been in Afghanistan? Honest question, not trying to stir the pot. I have long ago stopped paying attention to what is happening there. I really do not know what the answer is to that situation. I am jut sad that people continue to be killed and maimed there.

Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 17269820)

Microsoft Word has an option to run Grammar checks along with the spelling so yes it would have picked it up and gave me options...you sir loose again.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17269743)

He can't debate logically, nor use facts. His only response will be some kind of retarded insult that draws attention away from the debate. .

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17269931)

thought this was interesting for the obama nay-sayers:

http://www.nowpublic.com/environment...n-2632334.html

"Judge Martin Feldman Overturns Deep Water Drilling Ban"

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17269945)

thank god, common sense prevails.

not sure what you mean by obama nay-sayers? obama did what that judge deemed illegal and not in the public interest.

:)

Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 17269820)

Microsoft Word has an option to run Grammar checks along with the spelling so yes it would have picked it up and gave me options...you sir loose again.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17269958)

White House is instantly appealing it. The fight is on. My money is on the Feds.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the government will immediately appeal the ruling to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. LINK

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269994)

The word you wanted to use is "lose" NOT "loose". :2 cents:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17269865)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17269994)

The word you wanted to use is "lose" NOT "loose". :2 cents:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17269945)

thank god, common sense prevails.

not sure what you mean by obama nay-sayers? obama did what that judge deemed illegal and not in the public interest.

:)