The more I see the inflation on cigs the more I hope weed never gets legalized and taxed

I'm guessing any tax on marijuana would have a built in checks & balances because of the nature of the plant. It's so easy to grow just about anywhere by anyone, that buying it is really just a convenience. So taxes could never get as high as cigarettes, people would simply grow their own. Cigarette tobacco is not so easy to make. I think this is part of the reason it's still criminalized today... they can't figure out a way to completely milk the public on taxes with it yet because they can't control growth.

just more bullshit...if ppl want to smoke, let them..if ppl want to eat shitty foods, let them

i hate being treated as a second class citizen because i want to smoke....to all nonsmokers that preach...fuck off...i dont come into your life and preach what i believe

now with that said....i quit cold turkey three weeks ago and will never bitch to a smoker, i will still defend smokers the right to smoke and i call bullshit on that nonsmokers make smokers leave a drink unattended to have to walk outside to smoke and cant at least bring your drink out with you while you smoke, but you have some 20yr old meathead thinking hes god that stops you at the door..or if a nonsmoker sits in the smoking section outside bitch because they are in a smokers area....guess what nonsmokers...you bitched and got us outside....if you want to hang in "our" area, deal with it...otherwise go back inside......you, the smoker are an adult...you are old enough to make a decision about your body..smoke away...

Obama is gonna make america healthy again... One BITCH Slap at a time ;-)

Hear! Hear! :thumbsup:thumbsup

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I quit that shit years ago, dont miss it. :thumbsup

You fail to understand one very important thing - it cost money for all taxpayers to treat people from various diseases including the ones caused by cigarettes, bad food and so on.

I wish they cost $100 a pack. I can't stand all the smokers who pollute my air. It gives me a blinding sinus headache when I am around it.

What about all the various diseases I have to pay for (through taxes), in other people, that I will never get? Do I get to select which diseases I want my tax dollars to go toward treating?

New Yorkers will continue to pay whatever they cost

High $7 range in Chicago currently but if you drive a short trip out of cook county then they fall into $4 range per pack. I quit 1 1/2 packs a day for over a year but unfortunately picked it back up. I don't smoke as much as before but still 15-20 cigs a day. I don't do any drugs but I love me some Caffeine & Nicotine.

Which diseases? If you know the cause of those other diseases and that people volunteerly choose to use things that causes those diseases, yeah those things should be taxed in the same way.
Plus not only cost of curing but also death of any capable person is economical loss for any country.

Okay, then let's start by taxing soft drinks and fast food at 1000% percent. That's a good start. Those two things cause all kinds of problems. Want to pay $45 dollars for a McDonalds burger?

thanks APH...good point

people need to be responsible for their actions....if i choose to smoke, then i also choose the consequences....the squeaky wheels in this equation are the nonsmokers believing that its their right to dictate what ppl can do....."i dont like smokers so you have to pay the consequences for me not liking you"...and then they bitch and moan to get what they wanted, then its not good enough.....higher cig tax was their idea to FORCE ppl to stop smoking...guess what..smokers continued to buy & smoke...so they go back again and say "oh, you better watch out, we're going to raise it again"...and you know what smokers will do....pay the higher price...

lets tax the shit out of religion....i hate all organized religions, so i want a $15 tax on every empty headed religious nut...maybe that will stop ppl from believing in such foolishness...

Smokers Unite!!!

I roll my own cigarettes at a whopping price of $0.80 per pack. Yes, that's US dollars and yes, I live in the US,. LOL.

oh now youre pushing your luck....:1orglaugh

i also love how ppl bitch about cig smoke in the air....ever look at the LA air..and youre worried about a puff off my cig...theres way more harmful shit in the air that ppl breath than a simple cig...

Yes taxing junk food is good idea, I agree, but why 35$ for burger, 10, 20 cents per burger and that enough. No need to exaggerate. Plus keep in mind that food (junk or not) is still vital for every person while cigarretes is just poison. So while they both fall in same taxable category they are still a bit different (meaning taxing smokes should be harder than taxing food). But like I said its good idea, and I do not argue.


Its been proven that passive smoking is even more harmful than active. So yes I bitch if you smoke near me. And not only because its unhealthy but also because it stinks, its simply uncomfortable for non smoker to be near smoker.
Speaking of LA air. Well air is air - if you are in LA you can't ask someone to clear the air, but at least you can ask someone to move the cig. Meaning smelling only bad air is still better than smelling both bad air plus ciggarette on top of that.

Say HELLO to cigarette smuggling

http://www.coolsmokingproducts.com/i..._smuggling.png

ill make you guys some cigs it will dirth cheap(lawn clippings mixed with gas) hehehe

People should wish it was only the smuggling for tax and money reasons. Most cigs are fake and have 30 times more dangerous goods in them, then in the legal ones....

You've been peeking at 3rd world tobacco companies' records again, eh? :1orglaugh Seriously. American tobacco is 10000000 x safer than many 3rd world countries' tobacco.

safe my ass it killed my grandfather :disgust

I didn't say it was safe. :1orglaugh Maybe rephrase it as "less deadly". But still deadly. Stay away from 3rd world tobacco and its chemical additives :Oh crap

Bullshit. That argument has been debunked years ago.

Our own government is at war with the people its supposed to be serving.

Why do Americans put up with this shit?

soon people will be giving blowjobs for a pack of cig

already paying 10.75 CAD for a pack

No, but there's a difference. Some diseases can't be prevented, controlled or stopped.

Obesity and smoking can. I don't want my taxes going towards someone's unhealthy lifestyle choices.

Yeah, Canadians should be the Poster Children for Smokers.

They can increase the price and put nasty cancer pics all over the box and Canucks will still buy them.

Quit smoking to protect your lung!

It only protects one lung. Sorry smokers.

almost 2 weeks no cigs for me

been chewing the hell out of Nicorette gum though, at about .50 a piece

i can breathe much better though

This is good stuff all, actually considering trying a run without the shit.

I try to convince myself it's all in my mind.

But then I start thinking, next time I sit with a nice cold beer, ciggy ?!

For those of you that have gone cig-free that have smoked on a regular basis, how do you handle the occassional beer or whiskey, do you even think......

The cig sure tastes better with a beer doesnt it ? :)

Your full of shit, when you get to the actual ordering page they are $50 a carton.

Govt would probably make it illegal to grow it without a special license.

from .ru/.ua guys im buying for 1eu/pack :p

Ii just lit up a smoke

We have more than one lung?

Me either, but I don't get to decide if someone takes a job in a factory and breathes in dangerous dust for 20 years, which is also preventable, controllable, and stoppable. And I don't get to decide if tax dollars need to go toward fixing him or burying him.