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TurboAngel 07-01-2010 11:51 AM
New page!

TheSenator 07-01-2010 11:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17297717)
I've really concentrated on the program side of things, running programs etc, but in the past two years I've been working on becoming an affiliate. I have a blog network; It's easy money. I'm sure that if I did this five years ago I'd be making ten times as much, but I'm not putting much effort into it and making a ton of money.
ssssshhhhhhhh!!!! about the blog thing.....

Please just ignore what he is saying.....

Barefootsies 07-01-2010 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17297730)
I only have a handful of semi-active affiliates, but they account for 1/3 of my sales (new and recurring) every month - so SOME affiliates must still be doing SOMETHING right!
10% of the affiliates generate 90% of your sales.
:2 cents:

RogerV 07-01-2010 12:15 PM
Times have changed but the money is still out there

ShellyCrash 07-01-2010 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17296390)
Priceless. You sound a lot like me, anything my kids wanted they got. errr not the same van you fucked those hoes in I hope? lol
I hope not, I saw a bitch poop in the back of that van. :1orglaugh

That clip was legendary! :pimp

st0ned 07-01-2010 01:03 PM
Though I will agree that the adult business is at an all time low and it will continue to get worse, there is still plenty of money to be made. I don't produce content, run paysites, or anything. Strictly affiliate based and still clear six figures a year. I wouldn't say that it is completely dead YET.

Sabby 07-01-2010 01:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17297904)
I hope not, I saw a bitch poop in the back of that van. :1orglaugh

That clip was legendary! :pimp
You are not a girl. Ultimate moron status.


Sabby:)

Choker 07-01-2010 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17298102)
You are not a girl. Ultimate moron status.


Sabby:)
Put the crack pipe down grandma

PenisFace 07-01-2010 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17296062)
lots of shit going down the tubes (haha) these days but i still have sponsors converting at 1:80 or so..but the only thing really keeping me going these days is the money i make in "mainstream".
Mainstream is where its at. Most of my own stuff is in mainstream now with CPA networks and Google adsense. Even about 50% of the writing I do now is for mainstream stuff. And you know what? It's so much more fun to market mainstream stuff, because every product is so different from one another. Porn? It's all pretty much the same.

Babaganoosh 07-01-2010 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17296495)
I'm not trying to get you to give away any secrets or anything...but in general terms, HOW did you get your income up 20% as an affiliate this year over last?
He didn't. He's full of shit. He has been playing the role of wealthy cage fighter" for years. Just roll your eyes and chuckle at him like the rest of us do.

Sabby 07-01-2010 01:23 PM
if you edit my posts again i will nver post


Sabby:)

Choker 07-01-2010 01:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17298219)
if you edit my posts again i will nver post


Sabby:)
wow let me say this slower for you this time granny

P u t t h e c r a c k p i p e d o w n

james_clickmemedia 07-01-2010 01:37 PM
I guess I can hold onto your check for another week as you only check your mailbox once per week :)

BVF 07-01-2010 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 17296346)
When will you be back in NC?
I was there a couple of weeks ago and I plan on coming back in a couple more weeks...However, we will be focusing on the Lake Wylie, SC area as I'm thinking of moving to that part.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17296418)
I think it's funny when people assume because their methods of promotion no longer work for them that everyone else must be in the same boat..
So you buy tube traffic from Choker....I'll start doing that also as I was one of his early customers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gotys (Post 17296436)
Besides the fact that there is less money in the industry now, just about everything else in your post is waaaayyyyy far from truth.
Yeah whatever.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17296495)
I'm not trying to get you to give away any secrets or anything...but in general terms, HOW did you get your income up 20% as an affiliate this year over last?
I'm pretty sure I saw you upset in a thread a while back when your submitter account at pichunter was suspended.

So that told me you were submitting galleries and possibly didn't have your own traffic source? Or do you own tgps or other types of freesites too?

I'm just curious, because I've been flat across the board for the last 2 years as an affiliate. Not losing any ground and not gaining any and working like a dog.
And I'm pretty sure I know every trick in the book. And the guys I know personally are real good too...and none of them are having the results you're having. Not through search engines, not through free sites, and damn sure not through tubes.

Are you doing mailers on the downlow or something? Give me some kind of generalization so I can rationalize your statement.
www.chokertraffic.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17296518)
Your words are giving me a bad vibe about your program. :( Should I start pulling my links to your program now or are you planning on sticking around and giving me a fair shake?
Since you can't read anyway and come to outlandish conclusions, do what you have to do....I'll still be here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace of Spades (Post 17297618)
There's still money to be made and I'm glad to see people leaving.
I'm not one of them....

HomerSimpson 07-01-2010 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17296049)
I am TGP owner and i still make money for nothing,but i started on my network reconstruction and further traffic building to prevent negative effects of possible monetary damage.
if you're making money using TGP sites only - we gotta talk...
hit me up (icq in sig)

thanks in advance

Choker 07-01-2010 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17299862)
So you buy tube traffic from Choker....I'll start doing that also as I was one of his early customers.
....
wooah man I have nothing but love for you.

topnotch, standup guy 07-01-2010 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17299862)
I'd ass fuck that guy who posts under the Sabby nic before I bought tube traffic.

And I ain't queer.

TurboAngel 07-01-2010 06:18 PM
Well you should call someone when you come around you know!



:)

ShellyCrash 07-01-2010 06:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17298102)
You are not a girl. Ultimate moron status.


Sabby:)
Why? What makes me not a girl?

If you find my speech offensive you probably have not seen the clip. She litterally shits in the back of his van.

I don't get why you have your feathers in a ruffle. Didn't you also say this today:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17298166)
if I flash my ass for free I am not a whore.. (this would make me a slut.. personally I frown upon sluts I rather be a whore...)


Sabby:)
Pick a side.

You also were shitting on Kristin the other day too for no damn reason. Not sure what your issue is lately, but picking fights with the other females on this board is probably not going to deliver your intended results.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture...ntionWhore.png

Imortyl Pussycat 07-01-2010 06:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17296905)
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, either way you are right" - Henry Ford
love it, goin on my fb update :thumbsup

bdld 07-01-2010 06:56 PM
it might be over for you, but not for everyone else.

NaughtyRob 07-01-2010 07:12 PM
Wow, good for you man and good post too. :thumbsup

Quote:
Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17296418)
I think it's funny when people assume because their methods of promotion no longer work for them that everyone else must be in the same boat.

Here's some facts from my point of view:
- My income is up 20% over last year. For the 9th straight year running I'll have a comfortable income well in to the six figure mark.
- What was the lion share of my income two years ago represents less than 10% of this year's.
-I am doing less work, by a huge amount, today than I was a few years ago. I have all kinds of time for pet projects and programming again
- My overhead has plumetted. Between no longer hosting galleries, not having to buy or product content (sponsors are happy to supply) and a steady demand by qualified outsourced employees for steady jobs at low prices, my largest expense is domain registrations.
- I am still converting large "saturated" programs very well. TopBucks (1:650 YTD), Nastydollars (1:350), BangBros (1:360). Think about that for a second.

Now don't get me wrong. We're in a recession and the face of adult is certainly changing. Personally I think it's doing ME good. For every little guy affiliate who can't make his one or two sales a week now and vanishes, that's more potential customers for me. There are plenty of suckers on the interenet and more connecting each day. Perhaps it's time to change your game plan?

I mean, jesus christ guys. Even Teencat is making 6K a month and I'd be surprised if he can walk and talk at the same time he's so fucking stupid.

BVF 07-01-2010 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17300200)
wooah man I have nothing but love for you.
no i'm serious...I was looking into buying some anyway.

signupdamnit 07-01-2010 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17299862)
Since you can't read anyway and come to outlandish conclusions, do what you have to do....I'll still be here.
It seemed like a legitimate question to me but never mind I have my answer. :disgust

marketsmart 07-01-2010 10:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17300417)
no i'm serious...I was looking into buying some anyway.
leon, you'd be better off converting a few of your clips to 3-5 minutes, watermarking them, and submitting them to the tubes that take submissions..

you will get conversions. it takes about 3-4 months to really get things going (traffic wise)..

the targeted niches are doing pretty well with tube traffic and i think your niche is small enough that you will get some good traffic and conversions...





.

topnotch, standup guy 07-02-2010 12:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17296418)
I think it's funny when people assume because their methods of promotion no longer work for them that everyone else must be in the same boat.

Here's some facts from my point of view:
- My income is up 20% over last year. For the 9th straight year running I'll have a comfortable income well in to the six figure mark.
- What was the lion share of my income two years ago represents less than 10% of this year's.
-I am doing less work, by a huge amount, today than I was a few years ago. I have all kinds of time for pet projects and programming again
- My overhead has plumetted. Between no longer hosting galleries, not having to buy or product content (sponsors are happy to supply) and a steady demand by qualified outsourced employees for steady jobs at low prices, my largest expense is domain registrations.
- I am still converting large "saturated" programs very well. TopBucks (1:650 YTD), Nastydollars (1:350), BangBros (1:360). Think about that for a second.

Now don't get me wrong. We're in a recession and the face of adult is certainly changing. Personally I think it's doing ME good. For every little guy affiliate who can't make his one or two sales a week now and vanishes, that's more potential customers for me. There are plenty of suckers on the interenet and more connecting each day. Perhaps it's time to change your game plan?

I mean, jesus christ guys. Even Teencat is making 6K a month and I'd be surprised if he can walk and talk at the same time he's so fucking stupid.
Dance on graves much?

http://www.vox-populi.net/IMG/jpg/danse_macabre1.jpg

grumpy 07-02-2010 03:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17296069)
We are hitting the bottom of the recession. We should see a turn around in the next few years.
keep on dreaming. The adult business is in a dead end street ( the way it is now )

TeenCat 07-02-2010 03:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 17300957)
keep on dreaming. The adult business is in a dead end street ( the way it is now )
man i cant wait to start my first paysite ... still not sure about niche, but for sure it will be not ordinary straight or pornstars ... wish you best with your sites everyone! :thumbsup

Jack Sparrow 07-02-2010 03:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17300417)
no i'm serious...I was looking into buying some anyway.
Hit me up about your program. Im currently tweaking the adzones and have a spot left.

Realgfs 07-02-2010 06:35 AM
I spend some time reading this hole post, and I gotta give my 2 cents...

This is a hard business to work in, and it gets worse every day. But if you find the right way to promote your stuff and keep a good percentage of the users rebilling by doing great work in the memberareas, you can survive this downfall

The strongest will be standing in the end

fatfoo 07-02-2010 06:55 AM
It sucks when something collapses. Good luck.

quiet 07-02-2010 06:58 AM
god can someone please, please ban that sabby chick. i will pay 100 dollars just to have her off of here.

gideongallery 07-02-2010 08:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 17300812)
let me guess if you had been around when the porn guys were selling their stuff on video cassettes you would have made the same stupid statement about their choice.

hind sight is 20/20
fore sight is supposed to be rarity

those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it

funny thing is if you learn from history, foresight is hindsight.

Agent 488 07-02-2010 08:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17300597)
leon, you'd be better off converting a few of your clips to 3-5 minutes, watermarking them, and submitting them to the tubes that take submissions..

you will get conversions. it takes about 3-4 months to really get things going (traffic wise)..

the targeted niches are doing pretty well with tube traffic and i think your niche is small enough that you will get some good traffic and conversions...





.
listen to marketman. people love freaky shit on the tubes. your stuff would do well.

ShellyCrash 07-02-2010 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17301514)
listen to marketman. people love freaky shit on the tubes. your stuff would do well.
I know this might sound like I'm joking- but the viral potential for the poop clip is huge :thumbsup

You can only benefit from having something like that.

The Porn Nerd 07-02-2010 09:00 AM
Please promote my program to earn you some money.

(FatFoo gave inspiration to this post)

JFK 07-02-2010 09:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17296069)
We are hitting the bottom of the recession. We should see a turn around in the next few years.
how many is a few ? :winkwink:

james_clickmemedia 07-02-2010 09:08 AM
The key to survival these days is keeping ones expenses low.
We have been running on min. staff for the last year and not making any big purchases.

Choker 07-02-2010 09:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17300996)
Hit me up about your program. Im currently tweaking the adzones and have a spot left.
See this is why you are a asshole, you take every opportunity to spam your shit. You see someone making a comment that he was gonna hit me up for traffic and you jump in and spam your shit. Dude I have had it with you. War is on. We are gonna have lots of fun Frisky...............

Choker 07-02-2010 09:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17300417)
no i'm serious...I was looking into buying some anyway.
Man, make a ghetto tube site, load the first 5 minutes of every movie you have in it, put dating and cam adds on the site, use your content to sell other things, not just your paysite


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