Where I stopped reading.

you keep going to kiddie porn as a hot button as a smear campaign trying to argue fighting copyright infringement is some how the same thing
it not
fact every person you put on fighting copyright infringement is a person you prevent from finding and convicting kiddie porn distribution

if you really cared about kiddie porn you would give up the is copyright debate.
tell them to drop the government involvement and put those people on catching the kiddie porn producers.

btw pirate bay reports kiddie porn directly to the police.


bullshit she is advocating education so that people can make an "informed" decision when purchasing porn

she is not advocating a ban in any way shape or form. Ecomonic hardship is not censorship. People advocating a boycott is not censorship that an economic protest.

your tours show nudity too so that a strawman arguement and you know it.

like your attempts to tie kiddie porn to copyright infringement.

Fact fair uses like commentary and parody can and in many cases do use copyright material without the copyright holders permission (it would be pretty hard for micheal moore to make fun of george bush if he need his permssion to use his speaches)

the act was specifically designed to support that free speech.

the copyright holder authorizes all fair use when they claim their exclusive rights, they agree to honor those fair use exceptions which are not a violation of the exclusive rights granted under the act.

i hope you noticed that everything i have said also fits into the less government control (exclusive rights of the copyright holder is a govenment granted monopoly), more freedom (new fair uses etc) catagory too.


it interesting that both you and robbie only "noticed" the money aspect. you should think about that when you read the quote

"I have interviewed hundreds of pornographers and the only thing that gets them excited is profit."

That is the best line I've heard in a while!!

As a straight guy, even *I am also continually amazed at what we guys have to put up with from women just to get laid!

agreed:2 cents:

Yes, I do, because it's the truth.
It's not the same things, but it's part of those websites who do not moderate their content. What's the point of reporting something, if they don't remove it? Obviously they give a shit about the toddlers abused and "pirated" on internet, just like they give a shit about the consent that were never given for copyrighted work. That's the kind of moral we face, that's the kind of moral Gain Dines think this industry represent, even if they are not part of this industry. And those who put their ads on those sites, should not be part of this industry. It gives all of us bad reputation.



Let me quote her again:

Images have now become so extreme that acts that were almost non-existent a decade ago have become commonplace. From studying thousands of porn films and images Dines found that the most popular acts depicted in internet porn include vaginal, oral and anal penetration by three or more men at the same time; double anal; double vaginal; a female gagging from having a penis thrust into her throat; and ejaculation in a woman's face, eyes and mouth.

"To think that so many men hate women to the degree that they can get aroused by such vile images is quite profound," says Dines. "Pornography is the perfect propaganda piece for patriarchy. In nothing else is their hatred of us quite as clear."

To me that sounds like she hate some shapes and form and wants to get rid of it. Is it really her business what other adults want to see?


If I label my site and the copyright holder decides what to be shown, there are less children exposed to it and there are less content, versus an unlabeled and illegal site with full movies and site rips distributed to children. Your bullshit talk about Michael Moore, Bush, parodies etc. again show you do not know what you are talking about. That "free speech" was never given to you in the first place.

porn is rape.

Number one: That person has NOT interviewed "hundreds of pornographers"

Number two: EVERY business's main concern is PROFIT

But you wouldn't know anything about that gideongallery because you are a broke loser who can't make a dime. You are a disgrace as a human being and it is scandalous that you are not banned forever from this porn INDUSTRY board of which you are not a part of.

You try to mask your ignorance with your ridiculous faux "lawyer-eze" talk. But the only thing you do is make yourself look like a total joke to people who really are in this biz.
To quote that ridiculous "interviewed hundreds of pornographers" sentence just shows how completely ignorant you really are.

Loser.

My point is that porn as it is now is a cultural language that is constructed by its history and who makes it....

Example, Hollywood films portray a picture of America as violent gun toting racists who solve problems by shooting the problem.

When I visited the US I found the people friendly tolerant and non violent. Now could Hollywood make different films. As we have other national cinemas we can say that this is true French or Chinese cinema makes different films.

The realtionship between the porn maker and the consumer is linked. The consumer can only see what is made, if the choice is restricted he must get off on what is there.

It is not a matter of hard or soft. it is a matter of whether it arouses or not. Some Porn just thinks of making things more extreme is the answer, and my point is that is a mistake which will leave a big section of the audience behind.

I am not against peoples fantasies, if they want to drive nails into each other, feel free. As long as no one is forced into it.

But there is a whole field of the erotic not yet exploited, and this can be as hard as you like, but it creates a mood an intimicy, and arouses, in a way which an girl being pumped for 15 minutes, making fake groans, and fake orgasm.

long to read... ;(

tl;dr

Would be funny if that woman was fmltube.

Her's is actually much more supported than ours. None of us will get our opinions published.

what sells is what made, so the the choice is restricted to what sells

I find articles like this actually help adult.

Every straight woman who reads this may walk away shaking their heads, but nearly every straight man who reads it is probably going to walk away thinking, "Wow, what am I MISSING out on?" and will jump on the computer his first chance and surf around to "survey the landscape" for himself.

That said I do kind of agree with the extremes content goes to to constantly up the ante. I know that it's just meeting a market need, but I do worry for future generations who's first exposure to porn might be watching something like "The Pink Eye" series off a tube site or downloading a Max Hardcore scene.

"Truth" and "pornography" don't go along...

A lot of other factors involved...It is a myth that the market is free and the consumer dictates what gets made.

Hence advertising, first make a crap drink for 2 c a litre and spend 25 c marketing it.

Very few human being are original and want to do something new of different the pressure to conform is very strong. Hence the "wisdom" that porn is the only porn that could be.

But if we look at other art forms say cinema we can see that each culture produces different forms. so it is possible....

The critic of porn makes some true points...

I for one think the degradation of women problematic.

I stand up for sexual liberation of men and women and erotic material to be enjoyed by both....

With such detailed research done and extreme porn apparently being so pervasive there won't be too many future generations to worry about once kids think that cumming in ears, eyes, arses or noses is how reproduction works.

I saw porn at age 10 way before the internet. It was my dads playboys.

eh, let blame the internet to why kids are seeing porn at an early age :( Not like there isn't fucking on cable, porn mags, etc.

I wonder how many times she ended up getting off to all that "research."

Bwahahaha. A frog sex toy.

Then you should exploit the market of people who would rather see the softer porn. They are out there.

But you just have to understand that the majority of folks prefer harder porn.

It's just the way it is. I've run my tgp's since the mid-1990's and sold millions of dollars worth of memberships to hundreds of programs. Our tgp's were the first ones back in the day to have seperate category pages.

And unequivocally, since day one...the softcore "babe" type galleries underperformed VASTLY when compared to hardcore.

Not saying there isn't a market...because there is. I'm just saying that when given the chance between two different sites: one with Puma Swede posing very sexy (like an old school Playboy shoot) and the other site with Puma Swede all sweaty and getting fucked by two guys in the ass...well, the majority of folks seem to migrate to seeing her in real hardcore action.

That's not a result of people being led by the nose to buy the harder stuff. It's just that when given a CHOICE, more people migrate to harder porn. It's more of a fantasy to those particular people.

And that's not a "myth" or a theory. It's what I've seen doing this very successfully for around 15 years online.

How much first hand 'research' did this author do?? Hours and hours watching porn to determine the top type of sex?? hah

Yeah and also "interviewed HUNDREDS of pornographers"

LOL!

I didn't get interviewed by this person. I don't know ANYBODY that got interviewed by this person. Did any of y'all get interviewed or know of anyone who was interviewed by this person?

Of course not.

Because of the way that pornography is persecuted by society and the authorities...we all shy away from people outside our industry wanting to do "interviews".

Unless I know your company, or your name is "AVN" or "XBIZ"...then there isn't a chance in hell that I'm going to give you an "interview".

And I don't know anybody that produces porn that is going to do that either. Especially the big boys. The only "interviews" they will give to sources outside the industry would be to big media outlets and those "interviews" are pure viral marketing.

That statement of "interviewed hundreds of pornographers" is a complete LIE. And if a person is going to lie like that in one part of their bullshit...then how much of the rest of it is made up too? Well, those of us who are in this business know the answer to that as well.

Only people with a pre-determined bias (like gideongallery) would even give that kind of article a second look. Matter of fact, I'm not even sure what the point of posting that up on GFY was. Except to get it read by more people than it ever would have before.

It sounds crazy to the regular Joe, but when I film models for my sites, I just can't tell you how often the models are disappointed that my shoots are so soft!

If I offer a model $X for 3 hours of softcore dancing and sexy modeling, verses the same $X to do a deepthroat double bj scene, 99% of the time, they would PREFER the bj scene!

No shit - I kid you not! It is less work for them, it takes less than 3 hours, and when you are dealing with porn chicks, you are generally dealing with the LAZIEST people on earth (no offense porn chicks).

In fact, most of the models would rather just get fucked, because it is even LESS work than a blowjob, which is WAY less work than dancing and modeling. Hardcore models generally do not like to shoot softcore!

Some people are anti-porn, and I get that, but MOST of the girls in porn today, are sicker than the guys in this biz.

I can easily find more girls to come in to film a gangbang scene, than I can find for fetish/softcore, which is just the opposite of 10 years ago.

Many girls are watching hardcore online, and they are not imagining themselves starring in soft and loving scenes - they seem to fantasize about the very hardest and sickest stuff out there. It is often the model's fantasy that is rough nowadays... no kidding!

Any other shooters out there experiencing this phenomenon, or am I alone?

Bingo!

I had a meeting at my office last week with one of our girls from SoloSlutCash.
She was telling me that she had just done a shoot for another company. And she was bummed out about it because it was "just" a blowjob scene.

Fact is, she was HORNY! And she thought the guy she did the scene with was hot and wanted to fuck him.

I was thrown off at first. But then she asked me how I would like to do a scene with a hot girl and ONLY eat her pussy and not get to fuck her...then it all made sense.

Yep, girls have desires too. And to act like they don't is bullshit.

In my opinion, to truly "liberate" women you have to STOP thinking that they aren't just as kinky, just as filthy minded, and just as damn horny as us men.

It really is egotistical to think that ONLY men can have strong sex drives and love kinky sex. Trust me, women do too.

This applies to bondage models too. My bondage site is a walk in the park, so many of the bondage girls I meet are confused doing the scenes.

Many (not all) bondage girls like to be tied up, abused, penetrated, spit on, vibrated, etc. They WANT to lose ALL control, and they GET OFF on this, like it's a roller coaster ride or something!

My bondage site on the other hand, is like Walt Disney to them, so once again - it is the MODELS who seem to desire the really crazy stuff!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I just got done throat fucking and pissing on my g/f when she's finished cleaning the puke and urine up I'll ask her opinion about this.


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Way to shoot for the stars, you fucking idiot.

Monkeys are a long way from creating a written language, wear clothing, or stop throwing poop. Never mind going to the moon.

People like you are why idiocracy is happening.

You pimp your wife.

You troll GFY.

No, I make money in this business, I just don't pretend I'm doing something awesome.


You, on the other hand, pimp out your wife.

BWAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

You don't make shit in this business. You are a nobody and a nothing begging for attention by trolling. You are a joke. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Now do you feel better "huggles"? You got some attention! Now you have meaning again in your miserable squalid little life. Carry on with your trolling. It's all you have.

Quick check of your latest posts: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search...archid=3370637

Gee, the overwhelming majority of them seem to by either you making hate filled remarks about the porn business and the people in it...OR you trying to pick fights with people. What a piece of work you are. And really? Just a common piece of trash. What you're doing is so old it's just lost any edge or shock value it may have had. Why don't you try actually having conversations on here instead of acting like a 12 year old constantly.

I've made some good money in this business. I also have style and class, something you can never buy.

How does it feel at the end of the day knowing you pimp out your wife?

Proof of "style and class" or be banned! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

As for "pimping out my wife"

LOL! I don't do anything like that. She has a mind of her own. And neither of us suffer from the sad sexual hangups that you obviously do. I don't believe you've ever really been in the porn biz. At most you're nothing more than a failed salesman with no grasp of sexuality. Now run along "huggles" You big playa you.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh no shit eh

I wonder how much outrage there would be if this expose' was about something important instead.

Like what if the topic of the piece was...

• The Truth About The Food Industry

• The Truth About The Oil Industry

• The Truth About The Coal Industry

• The Truth About The Banking Industry

• The Truth About The Pharmaceutical Industry

• The Truth About The Defense Industry

or almost ANY other topic, that actually MATTERED in real life?

Porn is hardly public enemy number one, if you ask me...

That right there throws any and all credibility out the window. :2 cents: