Alec,

In all these yrs online I don't think I've ever had a beef with you.....

I did get pissed off when I belive in the start of the .xxx saga you supported it..... We own tons and tons of domains and I will never buy 1 .xxx

I still think it won't get approved but I have been wrong before... The owner is a asshat and you know it.. Sure, business is business but......

Peace

Todd

Q, do you have a pre-registration process in place yet?

If so you can consider the following list officially taken:
WebsiteSecure.GiveQMoney
WebmasterScore.GiveQMoney
TheTongue.GiveQMoney
BiReviews.GiveQMoney
EngineFood.GiveQMoney
SafeToJoin.GiveQMoney

Thanks :thumbsup

I figured since you were answering other ASACP questions you wouldnt mind one more?

After all you are the founder and I believe the landlord and a paid consultant?

Homegrown Video trademark concerns
 

I already have enough problems protecting our trademarks with adult themed Homegrown domains... if they get it then we will certainly have a problem with them selling any .xxx domains with the term "Homegrown" ... and we will be happy to remind them how willing we are to protect our marks.

Founder yes, but I do not earn a single penny from ASACP.

No there was arguing on a thread on the other board you moderated. you got pissed and thought it would be cute to post a pic of yourself with a gun. Like you were going to teach mike. But you didnt know his blog is one of the most read in the valley. Then the shit storm started. The reason I know is because I was in the argument on that board.

lawley on xbiz.net is brutally telling.

GO Q :thumbsup

Thats a shame. All your hard work over the years. Maybe you make it back on rent?
So how about that list of CP sites that have been shut down by the ASACP after all these years and hundreds of thousands of dollars contributed by this industry in support of it?

I know your a promotional genius so Id think that would be a list that ASACP would proudly display as the bounty from all those years of hard work and protecting the children for those types of sites.

Certainly after what 10 years or so there must be hundreds of them?

Bring on the list so we call all shout bravo Alec Helmy and ASACP!!!!

What's the beef Gonzo??

I'm not into drama but your def. pissed off....

I've always been curious about something... does ASACP have a Board in addition to (and above) the Advisory Council? I heard once that it did, but wasn't sure if that was right. If that's accurate, who's ON the Board?

this thread is snoballing no where. kinda sad actually because xbiz was so idolized over avn. now it seems like their just becoming one.

No beef here Todd. I like Alec. Weve done business several times over the years.
I like what hes done with Xbiz and I admire his tenacity. I just had a question that popped in my mind that no one has answered all these years.

Im wondering why now.

I respect your feelings but did you know that .XXX's loudest and most aggressive opponents today formally expressed their desire to get on board with it?

I wonder what made them change their stance as the key concerns surrounding .XXX have not changed since day 1.

Perhaps it's all a public front.

When .GiveQMoney becomes a reality, I hereby aver that it will be operated with the utmost transparency!!!*











* By which I mean it will be transparently self-serving in every conceivable way.

Wow

Alec what is your stance on .xxx? Is this something you support or have supported in the past?

I hear you..... All is good...

I am not a crusader by any means but there will be no .xxx in my future

PR stunt, delusions of grander - I don't know Alec.

But I do know that I will never support .xxx - if the sheep want to follow - best of luck to them...

I don't need to teach that asshole anything, he can't post anywhere of any revelance other than his blog.

He needs to move on.

Seems this is not the first time this has been mentioned....Mike South mentioned something to this effect on his blog :Oh crap

So then I gather that the ASACP is on board with pushing .xxx through?

If so, what is in it for them? This is a business and no one does anything for the "good will of it"....... it's all about return.

No .xxx for me either Todd. Its a simple money grab. Why not a .kids instead if your really worried about protecting children?

And as you well know Ive gotten in more than my share of "crusades" over the years.
Im just asking a couple of questions that Im certain others would want to know about as well.

I think this got missed, so I'm quoting myself here, hoping for a response.

Maybe this sheds some light on the entire debate and some of Mike Souths comments

http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00061.html


<<< Chronological Index >>> <<< Thread Index
ICM

To: stld-rfp-xxx@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: ICM
From: Joanasacp@xxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 03:52:05 -0400
ASACP (asacp.org) is the organization that helps the adult site industry
make a difference in the battle against child pornography. ASACP recognizes
sexual child abuse as a heinous crime committed against children. As a major
deterrent to such abuse, ASACP was formed in 1996 and is dedicated to
eliminating child pornography from the Internet. ASACP also provides a
self-regulatory vehicle for its membership through a Code of Ethics that
promotes the protection of children through responsible, professional
business practices. Over 4,700 adult sites have joined our cause in raising
awareness about this subject.

ASACP investigates and assists the F.B.I. and the National Center for
Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) in enforcing anti-child pornography
laws against thousands of child pornography sites. To date, ASACP has
received and reviewed over 100,000 reports of suspect child pornography, of
which more than 25,000 valid child pornography sites have been reported to
the F.B.I and NCMEC.

ASACP has been in negotiations with the International Foundation for Online
Responsibility (IFFOR) and ICM for it to serve as a hotline for reviewing
reports of suspected child pornography and to carry out the secondary
monitoring of .xxx sites for child pornography.

I applaud IFFOR and ICM Registry's initiative to integrate tools and
technology of finding and reporting child pornography websites into their
proposed registry application to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names
and Numbers (ICANN).

I also support the online adult industry developing their own credible
business practices in conjunction with other impacted stakeholders and
support the IFFOR initiative to create a line of communication between the
adult industry and the global community.


Sincerely,


Joan Irvine
Executive Director
ASACP

just as long as there's not a .www next...

that'd just make things confusing

:warning :Oh crap


The way my memory remembers it you were making threats on him, don't remember what started the feud, and emailed him that photo with some threats, then tried to DMCA him to get it removed from his site. You went freakin nuts and lost your place as an admin on GFY over it. Is that not how it played out or is my memory just getting dusty.

Correct me where I'm wrong. I'm not attacking you I just remember something different.

Helmy,
Here is a quote from Mike's blog since he is banned here:

"XBiz wouldnt even let me join their industry forum...and I love how that unethical cock sucker likes to point to journalism ethics...Im not aan news site Helmy you stupid fuck I'm an op-ed site and that means I can give my fucking opinion any time I want to....Fucking sell out."

I have to ask, if Mike is an AVN award winner, why exactly would you not allow him to be part of the Xbiz industry form?

The rules are, in your own words:

Rouge board moderator? :helpme

I had the same thought. And he does fit with in the criteria for being approved......what did I miss?

And it is Ok for that lawley character to be given a podium to spew his hog wash from.:disgust

Homegrown Video and Mike South
 

As the company which gave Mike South his first shot in adult and produced the video that won the AVN award, I can personally vouch for him being an authentic adult industry veteran. :thumbsup

If Xbiz is censoring the debate so that only one side is being heard then that is just plain wrong and should be information shared with ICANN.

No, didn't go down that way,
I never made threats, I'm a big guy and I have never needed to threaten someone, it's not in my nature.
I never sent him that picture, I posted it, he hotlinked it, I took it down from Xbiz and the picture disappeared at the same time on his blog. I never contacted the DMCA
I never was removed from being a mod at GFY. I was a mod at GFY almost the entire time I worked for Playboy, I think I started 2 weeks after meeting Texas Dreams and ended when I left Playboy.
He's the one that thru a fit by posting on his blog and then bringing it to my work place when one forum wasn't enough

Although I was not allowed to talk politics , LMAO


I've pissed off some people since I've been in this business, (When people are rude, I tend to treat them the same way) two of which I would gladly buy a beer when I see them, the other two are
Mike South and Lawrence Connor, funny how both of these assholes are banned from GFY?

Um, if you were in charge of your forum, would you let him in if he had been talking about you like that for several years? Just Asking?

Seems to me with the history they have, Mike would use it to just bash Alec

You guys keep posting and my question is getting buried! Hahaha.

Just want to make sure it's seen so I can get a response.

Maybe Lawley has a vending machine which gives him Xbiz street cred?

Wait your turn Connor. I asked mine on the first page.

You are a fucking idiot.

And how did I piss you off? or has your mental ability peaked?

Did Helmy leave his thread? I hope it wasn't something someone said.

Lots of questions unanswered.....

I thought my new ones were relevant to the core discussion.
I just think he likes Mike better than me and started off by answering his.

Alec has something far more important to do; he is busily pre-registering his .GiveQMoney domains.

Why? Because he is a savvy businessman, and that's what savvy businessmen should be doing today.

How does it work? It's a simple 5 step process -- Just:

1) shoot me an email with the .GiveQMoney domains you'd like to register

2) send me $59.94 per domain desired via PayPal, as a sign of good faith that you will pay the remaining 3 cents once the domains become active

3) I jot down your desires on a post-it note that I keep next to my monitor.

4) Then, when .GiveQMoney becomes a reality, just hit me up -- by then I will have an address in the Caymans where I can be reached during QBidniz Hours (defined as between 1:07 and 1:09 Pacific Time, Tuesday through Slightly Later on Tuesday -- or a "QBidniz Day")

5) Your .GiveQMoney domains will be active and ready for you to start working on them... within 90 QBidniz Days.

And voila!! Just like that, you are in business.... the business of giving me money.

So simple, so elegant, so clearly necessary to the continued well being of the greater adult entertainment industry.

Mr. Helmy and Mr. South are masters of generating publicity and interest.

I wish somebody of import would "feud" with me so I could get a little extra talk about the things I'm doing. Arguing with guys like "fris" doesn't do anything. :1orglaugh

Gonzo, I'm not sure if it will serve any good purpose the sharing of a list with past illegal websites carrying CP material. ASACP from what I've seen is sharing statistics from time to time regarding the reports and actions taken. I believe they are sufficient.

That's because you're not time shifting. Get with the program.

you were doing a good job but now it just looks like youre trying to divert attention to the questions being posed and the debate created by this thread.

it looks really bad and since no one can be trusted in this business, i have my doubts. giving that guy a platform to try to get some false support is bullshit.

Yeah, "feuding" with gideongallery doesn't get you anywhere either.
That's why Mike and Helmy make the big money while I am merely a pissant. :(

Those guys are marketing geniuses! :pimp

You should put that clown on ignore. He's one of the biggest smart-idiots I've ever seen in my life. He sounds somewhat educated and then totally blows it with his insane ideas.

Borderline retard, I'm sure of it.

Are you trying to derail this thread on purpose?

You have seen a list of these sites?

Nah, I'm just fucking around, and having some fun with rhetoric that is probably closer to the truth about the purpose of .XXX than the flimsy claims of benefits that can be derived from the new sTLD that Lawley has offered up in the past.

I've written several op/ed pieces in opposition to .XXX, and made it very clear in my comments to ICANN that I don't like the idea. I think .XXX is without purpose in its current 'voluntary' form, and outright pernicious if it were to somehow become mandatory for adult site operators to use .XXX.

At any rate, I'll stop with my foolishness and allow you guys to continue uninterrupted in asking Alec questions.... that he will never answer to your satisfaction.

The reason I say that is that Connor has been pressing Alec on these subjects literally for years, and he hasn't been answered to his satisfaction; my sense is that it won't happen in this thread, either. :2 cents:

Which is extremely ironic given that he started the thread??

congrats on all the extra traffic to your article, Mike. :)