When I was in college, I had to volunteer for a non profit group. No one took earningst but they made money. You can write off almost everything. Here I thought I was doing good and honest work and the directors are all driving benz's and everything was quite lavish. I mean, it basically paid for the staffs, well, everything. So to say he didn't earn anything from that entity, I can only respond with this: I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.
best,
duke

Wow. All of this from just asking a couple of "simple" questions.

Man I thought we were being tough with Alec here but Diane Duke is laying the smack down to Stuart in that other thread.

Fri, Jul 16, 01:38 pm
I wanted to respond to a few of the comments posted earlier.


Dave and Tom did not lie. Deals were proposed to FSC and others in 2004.
It's a fact and there are NUMEROUS individuals who will attest to that.


Stuart also told me, prior to my trip to Brussels during a conversation in
which he was trying to gain FSC support, that part of that $10 going to
support "charities" could go to support FSC's programs. He also told me that
he would offer whatever "comfort" we needed. As you can imagine, that
suggestion fell flat with FSC.


Stuart tells mainstream media that the $10 of the $60 will go to protect
children. He tells the adult industry that the $10 will go to protect the
adult industry. Stuart, we don't have any children in the adult industry so
which is it?


You want Reader's Digest?


.XXX will harm the adult entertainment industry through:
* Probable .XXX mandate that will facilitate censorship and attacks from
anti-industry extremists
* Reduction of industry profits as ICM purports to make $200 million
ANNUALLY off of the industry through its existing online market. We know
that if companies register they are doing so defensively thus throwing
dollars down the drain to protect the brand and traffic they already enjoy.
* Damaging the reputation of the adult industry and its .com presence by
marking the industry and those entities that are not .XXX as irresponsible.


ICM/Stuart is misleading ICANN and the Adult Industry about:
* Support he has from the industry
* Promises and deals that have been "suggested"
* The IFFOR Board its make-up and mission
* That the application is a "Done Deal* it is NOT!!!!!


The next steps in the process will be to block the application acceptance.
There are two avenues for doing that.
1. To show that their application is no longer valid today
2. To support GAC in its opposition to the .XXX sTLD


If you are interested in GAC's position on .XXX you can read their last two
statements on the subject at the links below:


http://www.icann.org/en/committees/g...ue-28mar06.pdf
http://www.icann.org/correspondence/...rf-02feb07.pdf

He could have put them at $10 a domain and still made millions. $60 per domain = pure fucking greed. Which is his only intention with this whole process, to make as much money as he can, it has nothing to do with benefits to the industry, customer, children or whatever.

I find Diane to be a sharp, hard-working, and always-honest person.

I've been saying that since the start.

I Like Diane:thumbsup:thumbsup

Shouldn't it be public record how much the people who work for "non profits" make? I know someone who ran a local charity and made 100K a year. Something about that just doesn't seem right. Sure you should be paid if that is your full time job, but to be paid 3x more than what an average person makes in that city and you working for a "charity"??? Just doesn't seem right. Especially if you are paid well and you don't spend that much time involved with a charity.

The people who work for charities and go on and on how its a not profit kill me laughing. Who needs to be a share holder making profit when you pay yourself like a CEO of a decent size business.

All that info should be listed on their tax returns, which are indeed public record. Quite often you can download such documents from an organization's web site. I don't find such a link on the ASACP site, but if you submit a request they're required to provide the documents.

yeah, I am going to bump this thread in hopes some answers are forthcoming

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Here's another early morning bump!

Thanks for the information, I wasn't aware of this.

quite interesting

Good to see others with some morals :2 cents:

Bump

Looks like Diane Duke is a little more open with communication than Joan.
I guess now you can see why I would asked Alec the orignal question.

What I've learned from this thread is that I need to start a NPO.

xbiz needs this money. the new space doesn't support their revenue model of ad sales. no one has or wants to spend money on ad sales to affiliates anymore. there's no need for them.

It seems as though Joan is no better than Helmy when it comes to defending their position of selling everyone's ass and this industry down the river.
And their silence speaks volumes......on that note, I am finished with the ASACP. :321GFY:321GFY

Is anyone doing this?

Are there really people out there who think the ASACP is running around with bags of money?

i have not read every post but this one somehow raised an eyebrow...

Are they a non profit? I didn't see anything alluding to them having that IRS status on their website.

Edit, I stand corrected. According to the site:

ASACP is a non-profit 501(c)(4) Social Welfare Organization

I found some of their returns online. The most recent one that I found is 2007.

I'll organize the golf tourney!

Any chance of getting on as a caddy....:1orglaugh

It seems Diane is still working to get this stopped and needs your help!!!....... found this to be of some importance. I posted this in davecummings thread too ;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Hi Folks,
We need your help. I have been doing a number of interviews and some interview panels as the opposition to Lawley and his lawyers. Lawley keeps talking about the number of pre-registrations ICM has for the .XXX sTLD. He is stating the number as a show of support for .XXX. We know that these registrations are defensive registrations to protect Brand and traffic.

If you have pre-registered and you did so defensively, would you send an email to ICANN care of my email address stating that you pre-registered to protect your Brand and traffic and in your own words what you think of ICM's .XXX sTLD. Please include the domain names registered. I will keep these confidential just using them to take to ICANN to show that our industry DOES NOT WANT Lawley's .XXX sTLD!

If you have not pre-registered, please send ICANN an email care of my email address stating in your own words what you think of ICM's .XXX sTLD. Including the name of your company would be helpful.

I will gather this information and use it to counter Lawley's claims of support from the adult entertainment industry.

My email address is:
[email protected]

THANKS!!!!!
Diane

This needs to be seen. So, bump.

The internet is forever.

I have 2008 ;)

So, are they running around with bags of money? LOL ;)

I found that one a few minutes after I had posted. The Form 1023 would give clearer info on who gets what, I think.

The bags of money have stopped washing up on the shore.... ask Ron.

Interesting thread so far

Well, they aren't broke from what I saw.

The money will be rolling in if .xxx is pushed through with lies from lawley and the ASACP willing to do almost anything to get their hands on it ;)

Truly pathetic individuals :321GFY

What do you find interesting?

Have an afternoon bump for that.

you all better keep an eye on that shitface xxx lawley loser in florida or he will come back to icann with "community support"

i think everyone should make sure he gets kicked out of the hotel if he sets foot there.

I'm still waiting for my $18.34 check for the 450,000 hits i sent to my Helmy turnkey store back in 1999 or so? Is that about done processing yet?

No the .xxx doesnt scare me at all really, yes it's an obvious money grab, with the opening of relaxed tld restrictions, i think fighting .xxx is not the appropriate defense.. the answer is simply.. just add eight more of your own TLD's with no law bullshit applied to them to compete :D

for example
.porn
.anal
.gay
.les
.sex
.date
.cam
.nkd


for the smart one to actually do this.. please cut me a huge check for this idea that will send .xxx packing