This thread is starting to tickle my pissy nerve.
Its simply astounding to me that people cant look or at the very minimum TRY to look towards the future instead of always trying to place blame no matter what and bringing up the past which quite frankly have been nothing more than 3000 people bitching about the same thing over and over again without doing anything about it.

If Mother Teresa (Passed i know) bought Brazzers + networks tomorrow you would all call her the devil as well.

Most people have just found out about this ownership shift and yet the last 30 days people have already been talking about how "Some" tubes have been changing.
Does that make the past right, no we all know that, but as we all know that why keep up the same rant?

Give it time and watch the situation closely.

Now go ahead and take a few jabs at me for posting this.
But know that i have felt the same as you, but my business tactics conquered by not sulking and we are now twice the size....

hey natahn, fuck you. lol. dance motherfucker.

This goes WAY beyond tubes. In fact.. it has nothing to do with tubes WHATSOEVER. You'll see. :1orglaugh

i think he is trying to say , people make MORE money with people they trust . Help us trust you. I think many people are wary of the " we are here to help you make more money" line. Everyone who says that usually is ripping you off , lol ( no offense or accusation intended ) nobody is here to help anyone, anyone with common sense is here to make themselves money , period end of story. Sure you want to help , you want to help others because it makes you more money, no need to beat around the bush, the common person already knows and understands this and any variance reeks of bullshit .

just to give you an idea of what you said sounds like coming from someone else.

SmokeyTheBear just bought BP OIL.

reporter - "SmokeyTheBear , now that you are the new owner of BP oil, what do you have to say to the millions of people affected by the huge oil spill BP caused "

smokey - "I can not comment on what was done with certain assets before we acquired them since I simply was not involved. I may have an opinion, but I see no point in starting some huge weird argument here."

heh :winkwink: sounds pretty :Oh crap

i could go on...

reporter - " you seriously arent even going to comment on the huge oil spill bp caused ?"

smokey - "If you expect me to bash the old owners of BP oil, trust me, I would never do that, they built one of the strongest and most profitable companies in the oil industry today, before spilling any oil even"


theres more..

reporter - "So it is going to be business as usual, spilling oil willy nilly ?"


smokey - "The fact that I am changing certain aspects of how the oil drilling work, should make it clear how I stand to this in general. I can however not guarantee a date all these changes will be done on, for again obvious reasons"

reporter - " So you will change things but you cant tell us what or when "

smokey - "That's correct, for obvious reasons"

reporter - "Sorry , i missed the memo , what are the obvious reasons ? "

smokey - " The whole spilly spilly oil thingy"

reporter - " you mean the rupture that caused millions of barrels of oil to flow freely into once pristine marshlands, killing untolds amounts of animals and plants "

smokey - "Thats the one, we call it "it who's name cannot be spoken " "





i'm just fuggin wit ya.... but seriously.

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Comment on this. You ran Virage Media, which was among the worst copyright offenders (right along with Mansef), and was known for being heavily involved in piracy and screwing the industry.

Therefore, I find it very disingenuous of you to say you can't comment on how Mansef was run in the past, when you ran some of your own websites in the very same way people have criticized Mansef for.

You've ducked your connection to Virage up until now. Why is that?

So who all from Mansef is gone? The Manwin site is the same web site with the same contact info as Mansef (only the company name is changed).

It seems like the only thing that has changed is three letters in the company name.

SSDD... :disgust

ADG

you looks a bit stupid now, sorry bro. the guys who posted your stuff were actually regular surfers uploading your content 24/7 :1orglaugh

everybody knows, that all that stolen content was uploaded by themselves, since submisson forms were actually closed

I'll send you an ICQ. Very soon, it will all be clear.

I must be living in some sort of weird warped time space continuum cunundrum sort of thing... I don't get why everyone is getting all mob mentality frenzied antagonistic here when they should be dancing a jig.

Nathan comes off like someone I would want to do business with - especially in light of the fact that he is taking all this abuse, which he is handling professionally and standing accountable, and noting the fact that he has only given positive statements of how Brazzers will move forward. Take it or leave it but at least give the new ownership time to prove themselves.

Go ahead and feel free to bag on us - no need to bring it all down on Nathan. We have survived and thrived through so many of these "sky is falling" scenarios it won't make a difference.

The thing I love about this thread is watching how many will squander any chance to work with a company that has the kind of traffic many would kill their grandma after she couldn't earn any more as a prostitute to get.

I've known Nathan for years and would have no problems at all doing business with him.

This Nathan guy is the king of beating around the bush. All his posts have a lot of words in them but he is never really saying shit.

what else does Virage Media run?

If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas :2 cents:

The thing I love about this thread, how many top notch buys and bros will squander any chance to work with a company that would do the same ( kill their grandma after she couldn't earn any more as a prostitute to get.), while pretending to be a good guys actually. Well, at least dont pretend so, you are loosing your invested time. We arent that stupid to eat the shit you wrote here....Of course the money comes first, but at least dont pretend to be good guys now. As I said, we are her for the money, not for the fun....so take your lies somewhere else.

You have no clue.. go ahead and do business with them.. PLEASE!!!

Yeah, I am stupid. That is pretty common knowledge... just like there is no money in porn.:1orglaugh

btw... if you don't mind my asking... how much are you making on your Brazzers traffic these days?

Far-L, I've already seen that traffic they have in action. It was pathetic. Millions of views on my vids, but when I look at pornhubs affiliate account I see very little ctr and a HANDFUL of signups.

That tube traffic is worthless to sell a paysite membership. Now if you want to go and offer free trials on it and hope to get a percentage of people to forget to cancel you could make a few fast bucks. But full join "honest" signups? I didn't see it.

Common sense tells you that when you are on a site with full scenes, you aren't gonna suddenly go buy a membership from some other site.

I knew it in the beginning...just using your brain tells you that. But I listened to some of the clowns on GFY who told me I didn't know what I was doing. And I found out for myself.

Just sayin', that traffic has about the same productivity as the cheapest pop up traffic you could ever buy.

Otherwise we would all be shouting Hallelujah and praising Brazzers to the skies for all that great converting traffic that all of us who have ALREADY tested it with them as our affiliate have gotten.

Guess what? That hasn't happened. Now use some common sense and stop thinking this is some kind of joyous occasion. When sites like PornHub are closed down and full scenes are no longer available for free combined with full members areas ripped on rapidshare....THEN we will start making real money again.

This Nathan guy isn't gonna close down pornhub. And surfers will RUN from it the minute he stops posting full scenes. It's ridiculous.

Steve, I respect what you have done in the industry, and I am not going to be insulted by your statement. You and I both know that we have a long history of taking on some really big dogs with some really big fat freaking fleas and putting them down like the dirty, mangy, mongrels that they truly are. In fact, you and I have been on the same side of many a fight for this industry over the years.

Until I have an experience with these guys to the contrary, I can only say how our relationship has gone. It is not lies. It is not bros. I have never even met Nathan or anyone else at Brazzers, past or present ownership. I am just not one to fall into the same track that everyone else is on.

We go our way. Our decision might be unpopular but we are basing our experience on our history and not on a bunch of disgruntled webmasters looking for someone to blame for their own inadequecies.

As I said before

This happened 3 months ago. People are slow.

I've translated all the bullshit press release talk for free:
WinBoomWoW said in their release:

"Wow we really fucked this industry. Can you all please help us make people join paysites again. We're so fucked that we can't sell our ad inventory on Traffic Junkys to anyone except scammy nutrceutical companies and penis pill ripoff sites. Oh, and dating sites like Fuckbook, but let's face it, that shit is so played out the margins are diving. Pretty soon we're gonna have to resort to installing scumware. When none of the shady companies can get bank accounts anymore, we're totally fucked with this bandwidth bill each month. Not to mention that most of these tube sites all have the same content and our bookmarkers are getting really pissed and starting to leave us. Please, please, for the love of God, can you dumb ass studio owners who don't know what we're really up to please start uploading your own shit so we don't have to do it anymore. Lately, we're so overrun by DMCA notices that we can't afford to invest time in uploading all that shit, and pay the people to answer the DMCAs. If you do it, you'll save us two processes. We're really sorry."

Bruzzzers

so basically you can take videos from fuckyoucash and used them to promote brazzers, and until you get caught streaming the videos from one of our staff members you can continue to profit off content you have no rights too.

nice.

well, since you didnt get my previous post at all, the reality is, submission forms were closed for the public. so while you are pretending, (probably only to lick the ass of higher positioned bro), that you dont know who uploaded your content 24/7 in this game i have to tell you once again;THE FORMS WERE CLOSED. otherwise everyone and their gradmamma would spam it all the way....pornhub knew it, us spammers know it, everybody knew it. so those fucking user uploders somehow managed to upload your movies 24/7 anyway :1orglaugh
yet, there is some high positioned guy, who pretend to not know it at all. well as i told you in my previous post, take your stupid lies somewhere else. and i still have respect for you.
that was the whole story of my post, in case you didnt get it.

to the question about big cock game, i managed to earn with brazzers around 150-200k since their beggining and i am sure its at lot less then your company did in the meantime, but at least i was lucky to move to more green pastures nowadays....

damn, sam jain is a bad man. it looks like he has scammed millions in ransomware. innovative marketing is all over the internet. so if he is partners with the others and daniel then brazzers was bought by ransomware money. wow thats nuts. i read there are 6 partners.

I see someone else has done their homework as well.. and not regarding tubes or traffic :2 cents:

Uh Oh. So this Nathan person is involved with folks that aren't "top notch" and all that?
Damn.

I was just trying to point out the pain that Pornhub caused for so many people and the countless good affiliates out there who lost all their traffic to it because nobody can compete with FREE full scenes.

But now the plot thickens. :(

Some of y'all (Far-L) might want to really re-think the back slapping and cozying up for traffic until after you make sure there isn't anything to all of this. Because if there is...some bad stuff could be coming down.

this seems so very fitting.

It is funny that everyone who seems to be selling there product to them is standing up for them in this thread. :)

Every single person standing up for Nathan is first posting how they do biz with them, then defends him.

Just pointing out the obvious.

Should have just ignored that comment, cause before this, you've not lied in the thread, should have stuck with it :)

unbelievable. I am stunned. Happy for you Fabian, hit me up on icq, I have to know all about this sequence of events.

I read the book ...... :321GFY

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This thread (and some of you) make me sick !!!!!!!!!

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I don't do biz with him, but he used to work for me waaaaay back in the day. Nathan is good people. I swear, I think GFY is composed of about 90% anklebiters these days, and 10% people who actually do this for a living.

150 Tube sites with pirated content... :disgust

So Nathan is the face that Manwin wants us to see, even though he has had shady tubes in the past, makes you wonder about who the other "partners" are.

Surely that is not a secret Fabian - so who are they? Any leftovers from Mansef/Brazzers?

ADG

here is my official response

go and get fucked

I've said I don't care how a program bills as I just want paid for the sales I send them. What they do on the billing back end is none of my business, my business is sending them traffic which hopefully turn into sales.

Don't think you will ever find a statement where I say producers should be screwed over. If you did, read it close as it may be a sarcastic reply to someone who was in support of illegal tubes or torrents.

One thing is for sure, I don't continue to do business with those who I have to constantly remind to stop stealing from me. That is what is pathetic. It's like an abused wife who just keeps going back for more because she feels that's the best she's ever going to get.

This whole thing is like when honest Bob Rice slid in and took over Solo Converts because everyone outed the owners for being carders. Bob walks in, everyone strokes his cock, it's back to business as usual.

After a few posts and a couple of drinks at a show, it's all good. This is why the cycle of scum continues.

he's their only shot at being a faceguy.

depressing :Oh crap

Not sure what amazes me the most, the fact that they have the balls to try to pull something like this off, or the fact that so many of you are so desperate and/or gullible that you believe it.

It's always going to be business as usual, you can tell by his answers. This isn't even worth debating.

If what a company is doing is illegal...why then does not someone take them to court...and win. The time or two that a company was taken to court that I am aware of...if I recall correctly the judge dismissed the case. If what a company is doing is not illegal then why the constant bitching? Apparently the bitching does not seem to affect their bottom line as many of them...such as this company seem to be doing very well financially. Is it simply jealousy that they make the big bucks and the ones that are bitching do not? That is what it appears to be to me. Am I wrong?

I do not know why, but I know you from somewhere, the nick rings a bell and I do not know why.. I can nolonger place if its positive or negative... but oh well.

I have a stupid question though.. Virage was "amongst the worst copyright offenders"?? You can only mean XTube, but uhm, you clearly can't, considering the amount of money XTube pays for content licenses each month and pays to Studios in royalties...

I have not ducked any connection to Virage, I have simply not talked about it, and I still see no reason why I should...

That the Manwin site is the same has a simple reason, I would prefer focusing on stuff that actually matters over a corporate website used mainly for HR. A new site is in the works though and I hope it will be up soon, but I did not want to delay any PR until that was done.

Small side note:

I am not going to comment on anyone that calls us a "thief" or claims that all content on our tubes is uploaded by us, since its simply an idiotic game to play and there is no sense in discussing with any of them about it since they will keep coming back with the same stuff over and over again...