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Nathan 07-17-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17343619)
Thats great news.. :thumbsup

Every time i tried to upload my content in the past with watermarks, it was always rejected.

I look forward to uploading some content and reporting back on the success...

To be allowed a watermark, you need a Partner account first to upload it with... that might be why it was rejected before.

eMail me and I will get you setup on Monday.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-17-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17343600)
ADG,

you do not want to trust me, like you claimed before.. you want to stir up shit because its fun... thats totally fine by me.. stir all you want, as I said, I could not care less.. ;)

I have told you the Managing Partner explanation before.. translations obviously suck, I could not care less what some website defines "Managing Partner" to mean, I care how "Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter" is translated from german to english.

Then your question about who is on the board of directors, seriously.. do you ask this to everyone? How is this any of your friggin business.. but you know, I won't make you look it up in public records: me and top level management is on the board...

Again, something you will claim is all lies obviously, or will twist with some other hilarious remark trying to make me look stupid... have fun...

I don't have to try and make you look stupid...

You do quite well at that all by yourself (Managing Partner of what you say is a non-partnership, LOL).

Although, this may be a more accurate description of your position:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

From what I have heard, you are just a lackey for Daniel and Sam - This Sam and Dan., whom you so far claim no knowledge of.

Oh, and congrats on getting LickMyBalls banned - for a poser (OPM) millionaire you come across to me as a sniveling rat... :321GFY

I guess that is why you did not respond to this post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17342521)
I just went to xtube.com, within 1 click I found several scenes of mine that are there illegally. Nothing shocking as I'm always sending DMCAs to your tubes.

Here is the problem Nathan, you know people are uploading 100% illegal content. Maybe your staff does it, maybe they don't, that is not for me to decide. The only thing that matters to me is, you allow it knowing they do not own the copyright to such content. This is what puts you (and the others) into dirt bag / scum / thief / not to be trusted category. This is why you are meeting resistance.

By allowing uploads of full scenes from anyone, you know from balls to bones you are violating copyright law and profiting from stolen content.

Then you come in here and wiggle your way around tough questions and act as if everything has changed, when in fact, I'm still looking at multiple scenes of mine on your site, uploaded by someone who should have never been allowed to upload content there in the first place. Nothing has changed. I'll send a DMCA and the scenes will go away for a week, maybe even two, and then like magic they will reappear.

You want to make changes and work with everyone, limit the video length to just a few minutes. Any video attempted to be uploaded longer than that is truncated. Make a variational process for site owners who wish to load samples videos to your tubes. A real domain email would be a good start instead of a free one. Create valid accounts instead of bullshit ones.

Instead, you allow full length videos to be uploaded by strangers. Not only are you NOT 2257 complaint and may house child porn in this manner, but for 100% sure you are allowing stolen content to be loaded as well.

You talk the talk but do not walk the walk. I can only assume you will be met with mostly resistance from everyone other than bro blowers and other dirt bags.

The above quote/post (with no response from Nathan/Fabian after almost 12 hours) pretty much sums up this thread and speaks volumes about Manwin... :2 cents:

ADG

Brujah 07-17-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17343652)
From what I have heard, you are just a lackey for Daniel and Sam - This Sam and Dan., whom you so far claim no knowledge of.

Wow! And some of these guys (Far-L, et al.) want you to just hop into bed with these guys without doing even the slightest due diligence on your own to know who you'd be doing business with? Incredible.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-17-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17343660)
Wow! And some of these guys (Far-L, et al.) want you to just hop into bed with these guys without doing even the slightest due diligence on your own to know who you'd be doing business with? Incredible.

To be honest, I have met, and really like Farrell (Far-L). He has done much good in this industry.

The fact is, money can be quite seductive, and it sometimes skews people's perspective.

If the honest content producing companies in this industry truly waged war against piracy, I doubt that we would be in the current predicament we are in.

Unfortunately, too often, cynicism and greed defeats ethics.

None of this affects me too much as a small independent producer with tons of marketing experience.

I still spend over $100,000+ a year doing what I love, shooting content, and manage to make a profit at it.

I may not be the biggest player in the industry, but I still do well, and I do not cheat or steal from anyone. :thumbsup

ADG

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-17-2010 06:29 PM

less than 48 hours before the faggian breakdown and he starts openly asking to suck members dicks on here

fris 07-17-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17343533)
Socks,

tell me a way to get rid of sites like pornbb, torrents and such, and I'll be all over it... I think there are not many ways if any to do so.

want to know why you wont address my content issue.

how can you guys use say fuckyoucash content for months and months and profit by sending clicks to brazzers tour using the content you dont have the rights to, which is paid for by other companies, until we "find out" and only then is the content either removed or link codes are added, doesnt mistake the fact that you profited of something that isnt yours.

how is this going to "change" while you own the "new" company.

please dont give me the excuse about user submitted uploads.

epitome 07-17-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17340989)
In this day and age, no one survives without transparency ? so that?s how we do business.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

will76 07-17-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17343532)
Robbie,

good that we understand eachother. I agree, it is not easy to change our tubes without hurting the, which is why we are doing it carefully.

I do however disagree that the tubes are impossible to compete with or make money from. Our tubes also obviously took traffic away from a lot of people. But last time I checked, thats free market economy.
If someone manages to produce a legal website which takes revenue away from us, I would be the last one to go and complain to them, instead of trying to figure out a way to beat them at their game.

The thing that mostly annoys me about some people on GFY is that they seem to think I have to be sorry or ashamed of having a very professionally run corporation and a very good team of highly qualified people. Good old GFY...

Come on. "Free market" society? More like blackmarket.

Pornhub took traffic and sales away from a lot of people because it was started with stolen content. Answer me this one simple question. How did pornhub open from day one with content on the site. The first "member" found the site, noticed it was empty and then went to porn sites and "user submitted" the site full of stolen content. :upsidedow We ALL know that at the very least the initial bulk of videos were stolen and put there by site owners, all the way up to the point when they started working out deals with studios and buying from people.

Where you with them then? Doesn't sound like it. But don't make it sound like Pornhub is just some shining example of a free market economy working. Bullshit, its more like a mob operation that eventually tries to go legit.

will76 07-17-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17343660)
Wow! And some of these guys (Far-L, et al.) want you to just hop into bed with these guys without doing even the slightest due diligence on your own to know who you'd be doing business with? Incredible.

Hop in? they are already on dirty seconds with them.

famous 07-17-2010 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17343532)

If someone manages to produce a legal website which takes revenue away from us, I would be the last one to go and complain to them, instead of trying to figure out a way to beat them at their game.


What if i had a user submitted tube they logged into brazzers took all your hd videos and uploaded them to my tube? I then used your content to be as big as you. (this will never happen just making a point) Well when you send a dmca it would be taken down so that makes my site legal as far as US law goes and like every other tube 2 weeks later its back up. We can rise and repeate the process. You can come here and say that pornhub was all user submitted content but we all know that it was not. Like Robbie says it very well may be now but from day one it was all staff. You know it i know it hell everyone knows it. So if the business started on stealing YOUR shit then goes legit after destrying all the competition and you would you still be the last one to complain or the first?

bdjerk 07-17-2010 11:08 PM

lots of now successful affiliate programs started with stealing their content. i hope people are paying attention to who is sucking chode on this dude too. see the ones who are blowing him, and don't forget them.

opflix 07-17-2010 11:16 PM

for a post that was meant to offer transparency, there is a surprising lack of it... don't u think?

Nathan 07-17-2010 11:17 PM

ADG,

Regarding your claims in your last posts, you are simply wrong and falling for disinformation prepared to try to destroy my image. I do not know why, but I am guessing being jelous is a bitch... This is the one and only comment to those baseless accusations. If you were not in the us, I would just sue you for even accusing me of such, sadly in a us court it is not as easy to do so as in Germany... Sucks for me. I will simply let my actions speak for themselves over the next few months and we will talk again then...

Fris, sorry that I have to say so, but that is how DMCA works. DMCA is a bit more complicated than you think though and there is reasons why it exists which make perfect sense. Do our tubes use a loophole in DMCA? No, I do not think it's a loophole, it's a type of site which many people might not like.

I have acquired the sites relatively recently and can not comment about things in the past, but I have said over and over again in this thread that we have plans to change certain aspects of them. I can not reveal details, but I am relatively sure most people complaining here currently will stop doing so.

Interestingly enough, DMCA becomes even more important once the site is changed, but I might explain that once we are at that stage.

Famous, again, I can not comment on things that happened before the acquisition, what happened or did not happen then has nothing to do with manwin. In general though, your comment with brazzers, we have to send dmca notices to websites all the time, just like everyone else. You do not see us complain. We buy ads on many of them too actually. The tubes are currently something that exists and we have to live with, why would we not try to make money with them. If we do not, someone else will.

Nathan 07-17-2010 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17343940)
for a post that was meant to offer transparency, there is a surprising lack of it... don't u think?

There are limits to transparency like there are limits to everything. For example because of non-disclosure agreements or confidentiality clauses in contracts...

That's just how it is, this is a business and it's run like any other.

opflix 07-17-2010 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17343947)
There are limits to transparency like there are limits to everything. For example because of non-disclosure agreements or confidentiality clauses in contracts...

That's just how it is, this is a business and it's run like any other.


you're not protecting trade secrets here bro... there are no 'limits to transparency'... ask every publicly traded company on the stock market. you're not publicly traded, but you're the one that claimed transparency was necessary for survival. so with that statement, you've told everyone reading that you wish to be open, honest and TRANSPARENT but now... there are limits to the information you're willing to divulge. THAT immediately waves red flags bro... i'm sure you can figure that out for yourself.

if you actually backed up

Thurbs 07-17-2010 11:37 PM

Not sure why everyone is so quick to the pitch forks.

While I'm not familiar with who the players at Virage / Manwin are, I know that the sale happened. This isn't a smoke and mirrors sale, ownership has changed hands. Any buyer in the program market can tell you this.

That being said, I know for a fact that when buying a company and retaining the operational staff, last thing on your mind is changing all the company letterhead.

Acquisition space is a fast action, hit them hard and see returns game. I'm sure they are all looking for ways to increase the bottom line, or integrate their more profitable business methods.

I know first hand that Pornhub network of tubes have all been quietly working very hard with original content owners to further monetize the content directly and get the tubes to what they could have always been, a real traffic source for content owners to earn with. ( As long as DMCA is the loop hole, I'd take 50% of something , over 100% of nothing )

I'd say that when a guy like Fabian comes out and gives a direct line of contact, people with problems should use it.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-17-2010 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17343942)
ADG,

Regarding your claims in your last posts, you are simply wrong and falling for disinformation prepared to try to destroy my image. I do not know why, but I am guessing being jelous is a bitch... This is the one and only comment to those baseless accusations. If you were not in the us, I would just sue you for even accusing me of such, sadly in a us court it is not as easy to do so as in Germany... Sucks for me.

You spell jealous almost as well as another infamous GFY loser... :1orglaugh

You have destroyed your image here by yourself by hiding who your associates are (or as the government may more likely call them, co-conspirators).

If the people in your company were such fine upstanding citizens, then why would they have anything to hide? Cockroaches run away from light.

Stick to what you do best lackey:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

ADG

crazytrini85 07-17-2010 11:39 PM

Call me crazy but a man who can afford to drop over 100 million dollars on a criminal enterprise would not be wasting his time on GFY in such a useless conversation.

I'm calling shenanigans.

Nathan 07-17-2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17343959)
You spell jealous almost as well as another infamous GFY loser... :1orglaugh

You have destroyed your image here by yourself by hiding who your associates are (or as the government may more likely call them, co-conspirators).

If the people in your company were such fine upstanding citizens, then why would they have anything to hide? Cockroaches run away from light.

ADG

ADG.. you are quite entertaining :)

crazytrini85 07-17-2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thurbs (Post 17343958)
Not sure why everyone is so quick to the pitch forks.

While I'm not familiar with who the players at Virage / Manwin are, I know that the sale happened. This isn't a smoke and mirrors sale, ownership has changed hands. Any buyer in the program market can tell you this.

That being said, I know for a fact that when buying a company and retaining the operational staff, last thing on your mind is changing all the company letterhead.

Acquisition space is a fast action, hit them hard and see returns game. I'm sure they are all looking for ways to increase the bottom line, or integrate their more profitable business methods.

I know first hand that Pornhub network of tubes have all been quietly working very hard with original content owners to further monetize the content directly and get the tubes to what they could have always been, a real traffic source for content owners to earn with. ( As long as DMCA is the loop hole, I'd take 50% of something , over 100% of nothing )

Has hahaha flown Fabian to Philippines yet and put him up in a nice beach villa like he has done so many program owners in the past?

hahaha is a baller. A real one. And notice he doesn't waste his time here feeding trolls and those who oppose him. Real ballers don't do that. Too busy ballin'.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-17-2010 11:51 PM

300 bootlickers, who claim to be the boss, but are afraid to or can't even disclose who their associates are...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17343967)
ADG.. you are quite entertaining :)

And you still have not responded to the following post and who your partners/co-conspirators are:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I just went to xtube.com, within 1 click I found several scenes of mine that are there illegally. Nothing shocking as I'm always sending DMCAs to your tubes.

Here is the problem Nathan, you know people are uploading 100% illegal content. Maybe your staff does it, maybe they don't, that is not for me to decide. The only thing that matters to me is, you allow it knowing they do not own the copyright to such content. This is what puts you (and the others) into dirt bag / scum / thief / not to be trusted category. This is why you are meeting resistance.

By allowing uploads of full scenes from anyone, you know from balls to bones you are violating copyright law and profiting from stolen content.

Then you come in here and wiggle your way around tough questions and act as if everything has changed, when in fact, I'm still looking at multiple scenes of mine on your site, uploaded by someone who should have never been allowed to upload content there in the first place. Nothing has changed. I'll send a DMCA and the scenes will go away for a week, maybe even two, and then like magic they will reappear.

You want to make changes and work with everyone, limit the video length to just a few minutes. Any video attempted to be uploaded longer than that is truncated. Make a variational process for site owners who wish to load samples videos to your tubes. A real domain email would be a good start instead of a free one. Create valid accounts instead of bullshit ones.

Instead, you allow full length videos to be uploaded by strangers. Not only are you NOT 2257 complaint and may house child porn in this manner, but for 100% sure you are allowing stolen content to be loaded as well.

You talk the talk but do not walk the walk. I can only assume you will be met with mostly resistance from everyone other than bro blowers and other dirt bags.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

ADG

BJ 07-17-2010 11:57 PM

interesting....

Nathan 07-17-2010 11:59 PM

ADG, I actually have, I told you that the only other shareholders in the company are minority stakeholders of 1 or 2% from management. You just chose to not believe me.

Regarding DirtyWhiteBoys post, he clearly does not understand DMCA or 2257. But, regardless of that fact, I actually thought similarly about some of these aspects before I acquired the assets in question, but I also talked to prominent law firms to explain DMCA to me and I have now fully understood it. Some of you might want to do the same, since you clearly do not. That said, I have also said time and time again that we are changing certain things of how the tubes operate. I can repeat myself 500 times though if you plan to post some baseless accusation over and over again too... I have no problem with that.

ADG, you are not hurting me one bit by re-posting this stuff, I could not care less what you think. I enjoy certain types of discussions on the weekends because it relaxes me between working days while I watch TV for example... you are just entertaining me. Of course, you can go on if you want to as I said, I will just come back and reply with the same facts every time...

JFK 07-18-2010 12:00 AM

I'll park here for now:thumbsup

ProG 07-18-2010 12:01 AM

This is just unreal to watch this industry kill itself. Fabian you have come a long way from being John's bitch. Congrats.

Far-L 07-18-2010 12:07 AM

I love how people here are questioning our ethics, calling us desperate money grubbers, claiming we are liars, insinuating that we don't know our ass from our elbow when it comes to due diligence, and so on and so on.

Listen, the moment one of you spends the amount we have spent truly fighting for the industry with our hard earned money, rather than just standing up on some soap box and sermonizing like alcoholic preachers trying to atone for their sins by calling fire and brimstone on everyone else, let me know.

The instant someone here can become as open a book as we have been willing to become in litigation, creating a public record, so that anyone could examine us freely, then maybe I will listen but only when you are willing to go the same distance of accountability.

Upon surviving as many monumental, groundshaking, tide turning, sky is falling, changes in the industry as we have over the years, then I will trust your judgement even if I don't agree with your opinions.

Until then, you are free to disagree with us, just don't resort to mistruths, false accusations, and ridiculous innuendos to try and tarnish our rep. Completely unprofessional.

theking 07-18-2010 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17343971)
300 bootlickers, who claim to be the boss, but are afraid to or can't even disclose who their associates are...



And you still have not responded to the following post and who your partners/co-conspirators are:



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

ADG

Unless I have overlooked it...I do not see a single question in DirtyWhiteBoy's post for him to respond to. Am I wrong?

Loch 07-18-2010 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 17343985)
I love how people here are questioning our ethics, calling us desperate money grubbers, claiming we are liars, insinuating that we don't know our ass from our elbow when it comes to due diligence, and so on and so on.

Listen, the moment one of you spends the amount we have spent truly fighting for the industry with our hard earned money, rather than just standing up on some soap box and sermonizing like alcoholic preachers trying to atone for their sins by calling fire and brimstone on everyone else, let me know.

The instant someone here can become as open a book as we have been willing to become in litigation, creating a public record, so that anyone could examine us freely, then maybe I will listen but only when you are willing to go the same distance of accountability.

Upon surviving as many monumental, groundshaking, tide turning, sky is falling, changes in the industry as we have over the years, then I will trust your judgement even if I don't agree with your opinions.

Until then, you are free to disagree with us, just don't resort to mistruths, false accusations, and ridiculous innuendos to try and tarnish our rep. Completely unprofessional.

You guys are based in seattle?
Jebus that is right in our back yard...never knew

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-18-2010 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17343975)
ADG, I actually have, I told you that the only other shareholders in the company are minority stakeholders of 1 or 2% from management.

What you have not answered (and what my question was, which you still did not answer) is who the other partners/associates/principals/officers/co-conspirators are within Manwin. Are there people leftover from Mansef or Virage still involved with Manwin?

1% to 2% stakeholders represent people with a 1.4 to 2.8 million dollar stake in Manwin.

From your statements, I guess you consider these people pretty much worthless peons, but others of us would like to know whom besides yourself (the self-proclaimed Managing Partner of a non-partnership) is a part of the Manwin management team.

From what you have indicated so far, your business appears to have the same stench and shadiness (or more) as iBill/Penthouse/AFF (at least we know who the principal scoundrels were/are in those companies). :2 cents:

Honestly, you come across more as a bootlicking shill than a Managing Partner:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

ADG

Loch 07-18-2010 12:39 AM

ADG do me a favor and shoot me an icq or email please.
I for some reason cant find your email and need to get you a few things from the past...

Nathan 07-18-2010 12:55 AM

ADG,

the Manwin MANAGEMENT team was taken over in the acquisition just as most of the other employees. So people like Brazil, Tank, Feraz, Santana and such. Considering the fact that I wrote people are the most important thing in most acquisitions, I can not really follow why you think I see them as worthless peons... but ok.

As I said, there are no other major shareholders than me though.

ADG, things change.. what you might think to know about my past might be true or not, I can not say since I simply do not know what you think you know. I am not going to discuss this here either way though since it does not matter. But for example, just because I was a shareholder in TMM, does not mean TMM is involved in Manwin... you do understand that basic logic right?

Far-L 07-18-2010 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 17343994)
You guys are based in seattle?
Jebus that is right in our back yard...never knew

Only I am up here as I work from home. The rest of operations, offices, etc. is down in Irvine and San Diego.

Where are you?

Loch 07-18-2010 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 17344025)
Only I am up here as I work from home. The rest of operations, offices, etc. is down in Irvine and San Diego.

Where are you?

Vancouver - BC, but heading to Seattle soon for a few mainstream social media meetings.
I wouldent mind having a cup of coffe if you are free on the dates im there which is still to be determined.

I believe you and my partner Cecil did some business back in the day, years ago though.

DWB 07-18-2010 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17343975)
Regarding DirtyWhiteBoys post, he clearly does not understand DMCA or 2257.

Not at all. I just send them out to thieving companies like yours every day to have my content removed, only to have the exact same scene reloaded a few weeks later. I've already sent 3 DMCA notices on the exact content I'm looking at right now on your site and it was removed 3 times before. Not surprised that I'm looking at it once again.

And yea, no idea about 2257 either. I've just been shooting content for the past 10 years on their word that they were old enough. That's how we all make content, didn't you know that?

Keep spinning and side stepping, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I do what I need to do in order to get it removed, you put it back up, I take it down again. Just the way business is these days. It sucks and is time consuming, but I've adapted.

At the end of the day you know you're a thief and that's all that really matters. I can remove my content day in and day out and sleep well knowing that I've never ripped off anyone or big too big a puss to answer direct questions from others in the industry. It's a shame a man like you with such deep pockets and wealth of industry knowledge doesn't have the cahones to walk it like he talks it and shoot people straight. You'd be unstoppable if you did. :2 cents:

Good luck with your new venture, the asset hiding, the side stepping, the money laundering charges, the current lawsuits and the ones to come. :thumbsup

Nathan 07-18-2010 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17344046)
Not at all. I just send them out to thieving companies like yours every day to have my content removed, only to have the exact same scene reloaded a few weeks later. I've already sent 3 DMCA notices on the exact content I'm looking at right now on your site and it was removed 3 times before. Not surprised that I'm looking at it once again.

And yea, no idea about 2257 either. I've just been shooting content for the past 10 years on their word that they were old enough. That's how we all make content, didn't you know that?

Keep spinning and side stepping, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I do what I need to do in order to get it removed, you put it back up, I take it down again. Just the way business is these days. It sucks and is time consuming, but I've adapted.

At the end of the day you know you're a thief and that's all that really matters. I can remove my content day in and day out and sleep well knowing that I've never ripped off anyone or big too big a puss to answer direct questions from others in the industry. It's a shame a man like you with such deep pockets and wealth of industry knowledge doesn't have the cahones to walk it like he talks it and shoot people straight. You'd be unstoppable if you did. :2 cents:

Good luck with your new venture, the asset hiding, the side stepping, the money laundering charges, the current lawsuits and the ones to come. :thumbsup

DWB, you clearly do not know me, you clearly do not know what I have done in this industry in the past and you clearly do not read what I write.

I have also not really sidestepped QUESTIONS, you have just not really asked any... Replying that its non of anyones business or that its confidential information is not sidestepping questions, its simply not being allowed to answer...

Either way, if you think I am a thief, so be it, I do not think I am. Neither do I think Google are thieves. Also, I have not owned these tubes for more than a few months, I am not going to launch some clock-and-dagger operation of changing their form of legal operation overnight.

The reason I have said you clearly do not fully understand 2257 is because you mentioned we can in no way comply to it... that simply is not true, re-read 2257 if you do not believe me.

BigDeanEvans 07-18-2010 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17344046)
Not at all. I just send them out to thieving companies like yours every day to have my content removed, only to have the exact same scene reloaded a few weeks later. I've already sent 3 DMCA notices on the exact content I'm looking at right now on your site and it was removed 3 times before. Not surprised that I'm looking at it once again.

And yea, no idea about 2257 either. I've just been shooting content for the past 10 years on their word that they were old enough. That's how we all make content, didn't you know that?

Keep spinning and side stepping, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I do what I need to do in order to get it removed, you put it back up, I take it down again. Just the way business is these days. It sucks and is time consuming, but I've adapted.

At the end of the day you know you're a thief and that's all that really matters. I can remove my content day in and day out and sleep well knowing that I've never ripped off anyone or big too big a puss to answer direct questions from others in the industry. It's a shame a man like you with such deep pockets and wealth of industry knowledge doesn't have the cahones to walk it like he talks it and shoot people straight. You'd be unstoppable if you did. :2 cents:

Good luck with your new venture, the asset hiding, the side stepping, the money laundering charges, the current lawsuits and the ones to come. :thumbsup


I'm like you; I never stole a dime from anyone, never stole content, never banged any credit cards ( although i looked over my sales over the last decade i did $33 million total and that was without any trials, full $30 memberships, so i can imagine how much i could have made) but i sleep well at night. Trust me, these guys pulling this shady shit will end up dead, broke or in the federal pen...I've seen it many times.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-18-2010 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344020)
ADG,

the Manwin MANAGEMENT team was taken over in the acquisition just as most of the other employees. So people like Brazil, Tank, Feraz, Santana and such. Considering the fact that I wrote people are the most important thing in most acquisitions, I can not really follow why you think I see them as worthless peons... but ok.

As I said, there are no other major shareholders than me though.

ADG, things change.. what you might think to know about my past might be true or not, I can not say since I simply do not know what you think you know. I am not going to discuss this here either way though since it does not matter. But for example, just because I was a shareholder in TMM, does not mean TMM is involved in Manwin... you do understand that basic logic right?

Ignoring your TMM red-herring (which I never said peep about), I assume you meant that you took over the Mansef Management team.

Since you apparently didn't understand, or were merely obfuscating again about it, I wasn't inquiring so much about former Mansef employees like Brazil and Tank, but instead about Mansef management personnel, such as Stephane Manos, or O-u-i-s--s-a-m Youseff (it displays as hahahahahahaha if you type his first name in without hyphens - I wonder what that's about?).

You know, Man+Sef, the principals of Mansef - I'm sure you have heard of them, even if you claim to know nothing about Sam Jain, aka Jain Shaileshkumar, and Daniel, aka Bjorn Daniel Sundi).

And how about Matt Keez (aka Matthew Keezer of Keez Movies), and the well-known others behind some of the Mansef related content piracy? Are they still associated with Manwin (people such as Salam Said)?

I do not consider anyone to be a worthless peon. I stated that you implied this by inferring that people that had only a 1% or 2% interest in your company were insignificant, and therefore not even worth of mentioning - being condescending appears to be one of your main personality traits.

So, are Brazil and Tank 1% to 2% shareholders in your corporation or whatever it is that you are?

Wait, you said it's not a corporation, but by definition "shareholders" hold stock in a corporation. Are Brazil and Tank shareholders or stakeholders in whatever legal entity Manwin is? If not, who were you referring to?

What about Stephane Manos or OUISAMM Youseff? Do they have any current role in Manwin?

You claim to not be a "partnership" even though you call yourself the "Managing Partner", and you stated that you are not a CEO of a corporation. So just what kind of legal entity (if any) is Manwin?

Are you willing to go on the public record stating that you have had no dealings whatsoever with Sam Jain (aka Jain Shaileshkumar) or Daniel (aka Bjorn Daniel Sundin)?

ADG

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 17344050)
Trust me, these guys pulling this shady shit will end up dead, broke or in the federal pen...I've seen it many times.

Pink Visuals sues Brazzers for $6.75 Million

NEW YORK ? Pink Visual?s holding company has filed suit against the owners of Brazzers, alleging that four company-owned tube sites poached content from 45 copyrighted movies and have streamed them ?tens of millions of times.?

The websites at issue in Pink Visual?s $6.75 million complaint include KeezMovies.com, PornHub.com, Extremetube.com and Tube8.com, all owned by Canadian companies Mansef Inc. and Interhub, whose officers operate both companies.

Pink Visual?s complaint alleges that the defendants are not only aware of infringing content being uploaded to their sites, but that they ?actively engage in, promote and induce this infringement.?



?Bachelor? Star Sues TMZ, Brazzers, JuggCash.com, Mansef Tube Sites

LOS ANGELES ? Rozlyn Papa, the reality TV star who recently appeared on ?The Bachelor,? says she wasn?t included as cast in Lexington Steele?s ?Pole Position: Lex POV.?

On Wednesday, Papa filed suit at Los Angeles Superior Court over allegations that a number of companies falsely advertised that she was the lead actress in ?Pole Position: Lex POV.?



Brazzers Parent Company Fighting $6.4 Million Forfeiture Suit

ATLANTA ? The parent company of Brazzers has filed a motion to dismiss the forfeiture of $6.4 million the U.S. government is seeking after authorities traced numerous transactions involving the Canadian adult company and third-party credit card processors, including those in Israel.

Federal authorities say in the complaint that Premium Services for three months last year received $9.4 million in wire transfers from various sources and that much of the funds originated overseas in countries considered by law enforcement to be at high risk for money-laundering activity, such as Israel.


After being fired by Brazzers, producer Bobby Manila charged Brazzers with a lawsuit for fraud and violating the terms of contract. The lawsuit was eventually settled out of court.


Stand up people at this company. Not counting on the slight of hands traction to bring new changes. This is asset protection, nothing more. :2 cents:

Brujah 07-18-2010 03:31 AM

Any background on why GFY admins had some of the names added to the GFY filters, so they result in 'hahahahaha' now? That's a new one?

seeandsee 07-18-2010 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17344100)
Any background on why GFY admins had some of the names added to the GFY filters, so they result in 'hahahahaha' now? That's a new one?

i once found xxxxxx number string going into hahahaha :)


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