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Nathan 07-18-2010 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17344065)
Ignoring your TMM red-herring (which I never said peep about), I assume you meant that you took over the Mansef Management team.

Since you apparently didn't understand, or were merely obfuscating again about it, I wasn't inquiring so much about former Mansef employees like Brazil and Tank, but instead about Mansef management personnel, such as Stephane Manos, or O-u-i-s--s-a-m Youseff (it displays as hahahahahahaha if you type his first name in without hyphens - I wonder what that's about?).

You know, Man+Sef, the principals of Mansef - I'm sure you have heard of them, even if you claim to know nothing about Sam Jain, aka Jain Shaileshkumar, and Daniel, aka Bjorn Daniel Sundi).

And how about Matt Keez (aka Matthew Keezer of Keez Movies), and the well-known others behind some of the Mansef related content piracy? Are they still associated with Manwin (people such as Salam Said)?

Thank you for finally actually asking clearly what you want to know, although I have even clearly enough answered that multiple times already... Names on here are sometimes banned words since people prefer not to have their real names published... Maybe thats why?

What I have said before, I was rather clear, maybe you did not understand it.. So here again for you to hopefully even understand: None of the names you mentioned above are involved in Manwin whatsoever. None of the previous owners of the assets are involved in Manwin, considering that I bought the assets from them I thought that would be obvious. My bad.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17344065)

I do not consider anyone to be a worthless peon. I stated that you implied this by inferring that people that had only a 1% or 2% interest in your company were insignificant, and therefore not even worth of mentioning - being condescending appears to be one of your main personality traits.

So, are Brazil and Tank 1% to 2% shareholders in your corporation or whatever it is that you are?

Wait, you said it's not a corporation, but by definition "shareholders" hold stock in a corporation. Are Brazil and Tank shareholders or stakeholders in whatever legal entity Manwin is? If not, who were you referring to?

Where did I say its not a corporation? Either way, do not expect that I am going to tell you specifically who owns what percentage. Its none of your or anyone elses business. It's also not in my place to divulge what other people own, that is on them to do if they want to (which I doubt). The two you mentioned above currently own no shares in Manwin though, that much I can say. That does not mean they might not get shares at a later stage for incentive purposes of course. Currently, they do not though.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17344065)
What about Stephane Manos or OUISAMM Youseff? Do they have any current role in Manwin?

No they do not.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17344065)
You claim to not be a "partnership" even though you call yourself the "Managing Partner", and you stated that you are not a CEO of a corporation. So just what kind of legal entity (if any) is Manwin?

Listen, I told you before, the term is a translation from German. I do not need to explain our corporate structure to you, its again none of your business. If you are so interested, dig a little deeper and find out for yourself. Parts of it are public record.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17344065)

Are you willing to go on the public record stating that you have had no dealings whatsoever with Sam Jain (aka Jain Shaileshkumar) or Daniel (aka Bjorn Daniel Sundin)?

ADG

I had no dealings whatsoever with Sam Jain, whoever that is. I heard the name in this thread the first time in my life when the LikeMyBalls weirdo postet the wiki link.

Daniel, I have had dealings with 10 years ago. As did more or less I would say 80% of this industry's oldtimers. Daniel was the first person, together with a lovely guy called Preston Garrison (some of the veterans might know him too) who ever ripped me off, sadly he was not the last. The prick still owes me something like 70000 USD from ad income and who knows how much from selling stuff we did together in the past to Flying Crocodile without giving me my cut... Back then, HUGE lesson learned... If you happen to know where he is, do let me know, I'ld love to pay him a visit... I hear he has bigger problems now though...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-18-2010 05:00 AM

G'night Nathan/Fabian/Bootlicker...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

You've made quite a name for yourself here on GFY for basically saying nothing while incessantly flapping your dick suckers for your real bosses - but what else is supposed to be expected from a bootlicking lackey Managing Pretender Partner like yourself?!?

:1orglaugh :winkwink: :disgust :321GFY

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-18-2010 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344154)
Thank you for finally actually asking clearly what you want to know, although I have even clearly enough answered that multiple times already... Names on here are sometimes banned words since people prefer not to have their real names published... Maybe thats why?

What I have said before, I was rather clear, maybe you did not understand it.. So here again for you to hopefully even understand: None of the names you mentioned above are involved in Manwin whatsoever. None of the previous owners of the assets are involved in Manwin, considering that I bought the assets from them I thought that would be obvious. My bad.

Where did I say its not a corporation? Either way, do not expect that I am going to tell you specifically who owns what percentage. Its none of your or anyone elses business. It's also not in my place to divulge what other people own, that is on them to do if they want to (which I doubt). The two you mentioned above currently own no shares in Manwin though, that much I can say. That does not mean they might not get shares at a later stage for incentive purposes of course. Currently, they do not though.

No they do not.

Listen, I told you before, the term is a translation from German. I do not need to explain our corporate structure to you, its again none of your business. If you are so interested, dig a little deeper and find out for yourself. Parts of it are public record.

I had no dealings whatsoever with Sam Jain, whoever that is. I heard the name in this thread the first time in my life when the LikeMyBalls weirdo postet the wiki link.

Daniel, I have had dealings with 10 years ago. As did more or less I would say 80% of this industry's oldtimers. Daniel was the first person, together with a lovely guy called Preston Garrison (some of the veterans might know him too) who ever ripped me off, sadly he was not the last. The prick still owes me something like 70000 USD from ad income and who knows how much from selling stuff we did together in the past to Flying Crocodile without giving me my cut... Back then, HUGE lesson learned... If you happen to know where he is, do let me know, I'ld love to pay him a visit... I hear he has bigger problems now though...

So, once again (since you can't seem to comprehend a simple question), who are your other partners/corporate board members/associates/co-conspirators?

Or are you really just a boot licking lackey, that refuses to answer rather simple questions, in order to appease/not anger your real boss(es)?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17344100)
Any background on why GFY admins had some of the names added to the GFY filters, so they result in 'hahahahaha' now? That's a new one?

I'm sure hahahahahaha cried to GFY about people talking about him because he was such a crook.

Surprised Playboy bowed down to Brazzers like that. :2 cents:

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 05:46 AM

Right now everyone should sign up (no ref code) to promote Pink Visual / Top Bucks.

TopBucks.com

They are suing these scum bags, support them! :2 cents:

Nathan 07-18-2010 06:00 AM

ADG,

Jealous that I am rich enough to buy brazzers, huh? I can repeat this over and over again for you, since you are obviously not a very intelligent person :)

There are no other notable shareholders. The only other shareholders have minority stakes as part of incentive programs. Who those shareholders are is not my place to tell, if they want you to know they can come here and tell you themselves.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-18-2010 06:06 AM

:warning
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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17344182)
I'm sure hahahahahaha cried to GFY about people talking about him because he was such a crook.

Surprised Playboy bowed down to Brazzers like that. :2 cents:

Brazzers is a GFY advertiser. Don't you know how the Bro Club works?!? :winkwink:

Wait until AFF/Penthouse gets ahold of Playboy...if they can. :helpme

Maybe o-u-i-s-s-a-m y-o-u-s-s-e-f, (without dashes) aka hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha shows up on terrorist lists, money launderer lists, or etc, which is why his name shows up as hahahahaha on GFY... :2 cents:

I don't know, but OUISAAM YOUSEFF kinda sounds like a person with something to hide...:warning

ADG

pradaboy 07-18-2010 06:10 AM

Damn why is it always Indians that are such scammers (talking about that Jain dude)?

Anyway, Nathan... if you really do own a 100+ million company right now, why the fuck are you spending hours on GFY answering questions from people you don't even know and have no business with? Come on man, go do something useful.

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344198)
Jealous that I am rich enough to buy brazzers, huh?

I'm sure many people are jealous. Who wouldn't want 100 million dollars to have at their disposal?

The real question is: Why would a man buy any organization that was involved in illegal activity and brought up on charges for illegal activity, if that man himself was not a criminal?

I could buy poppy fields in the golden triangle and sell heroin, making millions, but I wouldn't.
I could slang dope on the corner, but I wouldn't.
I could sell CP, but I wouldn't.
My business would never revolve around any illegal activity.

But you, you bought it knowing it was operating illegally. What does that say about you as both a person and a businessman?

Serious question.

Nathan 07-18-2010 06:17 AM

Prada,

I am sitting outside, drinking coffee and Ice cream with my parents and my wife and kid, now and then checking gfy if someone has posted some more funky bullshit and if so, I post...

I love the Internet, that it is possible to comment this way.. I also love discussions... So I just post in my spare time...

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy (Post 17344208)
Anyway, Nathan... if you really do own a 100+ million company right now, why the fuck are you spending hours on GFY answering questions from people you don't even know and have no business with? Come on man, go do something useful.

:2 cents: If I had that kind of money or just spent that much on an investment, I would not be dicking off here with ADG. (No offense to ADG)

This is what makes me feel he is just a frontman. A Bob Rice or a Scott Johnston, if you will.

Nathan 07-18-2010 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17344212)
I'm sure many people are jealous. Who wouldn't want 100 million dollars to have at their disposal?

The real question is: Why would a man buy any organization that was involved in illegal activity and brought up on charges for illegal activity, if that man himself was not a criminal?

I could buy poppy fields in the golden triangle and sell heroin, making millions, but I wouldn't.
I could slang dope on the corner, but I wouldn't.
I could sell CP, but I wouldn't.
My business would never revolve around any illegal activity.

But you, you bought it knowing it was operating illegally. What does that say about you as both a person and a businessman?

Serious question.

I hate to destroy your dreamworld... But nothing was operated illegally. Just because someone is sued, does not mean they are doing illegal stuff...

Let's wait until the lawsuits in question are over and then we can talk again...

Either way. None of them have to do with Manwin, and we are not breaking any laws either.

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344217)
I am sitting outside with my parents and my wife and kid, now and then checking gfy

When I'm with my parents, my wife an my kids, I'm always checking GFY too. :helpme

Nathan 07-18-2010 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17344226)
:2 cents: If I had that kind of money or just spent that much on an investment, I would not be dicking off here with ADG. (No offense to ADG)

This is what makes me feel he is just a frontman. A Bob Rice or a Scott Johnston, if you will.

I have worked hard to get where I am today, and I am proud of it. That is why I post replies here.

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344228)
I hate to destroy your dreamworld... But nothing was operated illegally.

You're right, the US Government just has a nasty habit of freezing $6.4 million dollars of do-gooders and those operating legally. Probably just a big misunderstanding.

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344233)
I have worked hard to get where I am today, and I am proud of it. That is why I post replies here.

In all honesty, if you really are THE MAN at Brazzers now, you should be proud for being able to afford such a large company. I'll give you that. That has taken an unbelievable amount of hard work I'm sure. It's the company's history and actions that unfortunately bring dirt and hate to your plate.

Get off GFY and go be with your family. :2 cents:

Nathan 07-18-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17344236)
You're right, the US Government just has a nasty habit of freezing $6.4 million dollars of do-gooders and those operating legally. Probably just a big misunderstanding.

Actually you would be surprised what the us government does... But let's just wait what comes out of that suit... I am curious myself.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-18-2010 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344198)
ADG,

Jealous that I am rich enough to buy brazzers, huh? I can repeat this over and over again for you, since you are obviously not a very intelligent person :)

There are no other notable shareholders. The only other shareholders have minority stakes as part of incentive programs. Who those shareholders are is not my place to tell, if they want you to know they can come here and tell you themselves.

Yeah, I am not very intelligent, nonetheless, you have just proved that you are a lying punk ass bitch, and not a multi-millionaire company owner, since you were dishonest by not previously revealing who your partners (owners) are.

In a previous post you indicated that:

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'Where did I say its not a corporation? Either way, do not expect that I am going to tell you specifically who owns what percentage. Its none of your or anyone elses business. It's also not in my place to divulge what other people own, that is on them to do if they want to (which I doubt). The two you mentioned above currently own no shares in Manwin though, that much I can say.
That does not mean they might not get shares at a later stage for incentive purposes of course.

You just indicated that you are in cahoots with the previous owners, which you have lied about until now, dumb ass... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Thanks - keep on with your boot licking...the one thing you appear good at!!! :321GFY

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

ADG

Nathan 07-18-2010 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17344240)
In all honesty, if you really are THE MAN at Brazzers now, you should be proud for being able to afford such a large company. I'll give you that. That has taken an unbelievable amount of hard work I'm sure. It's the company's history and actions that unfortunately bring dirt and hate to your plate.

Get off GFY and go be with your family. :2 cents:

As I have said, I am working on improving the image of our tubes... Whoever does not believe me, I will do my best to convince with positive actions.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-18-2010 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344243)
As I have said, I am working on improving the image of our tubes... Whoever does not believe me, I will do my best to convince with positive actions.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

Nathan 07-18-2010 06:40 AM

Oh god ADG,

How stupid are you? My reply was in regards to brazil and tank.

Idiot, can't even read right.

pradaboy 07-18-2010 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344217)
Prada,

I am sitting outside, drinking coffee and Ice cream with my parents and my wife and kid, now and then checking gfy if someone has posted some more funky bullshit and if so, I post...

I love the Internet, that it is possible to comment this way.. I also love discussions... So I just post in my spare time...

Enjoy your time man, I don't know you, I don't like what Brazzers/Mansef has done to this industry but you have to admit these discussions are useless. Only time will tell what this transaction will change.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-18-2010 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17344247)
Oh god ADG,

How stupid are you? My reply was in regards to brazil and tank.

Idiot, can't even read right.

My question was about Stephane Manos and OUISAMM Youseff, not about Brazil and Tank.

Once again, you are the idiot that doesn't even understand the difference between a partnership (with thieves) and a public corporation. :disgust

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5IOsliFxM3...BootLicker.jpg

Otherwise, you could easily list your public corporation directors/investors/board members. Why don't you list them?

ADG

Nathan 07-18-2010 07:25 AM

ADG, I would recheck post #321 before you make yourself look like a fool.. my comment you so well quoted, the "may get shares later" was clearly in reply to this from you:

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I do not consider anyone to be a worthless peon. I stated that you implied this by inferring that people that had only a 1% or 2% interest in your company were insignificant, and therefore not even worth of mentioning - being condescending appears to be one of your main personality traits.

So, are Brazil and Tank 1% to 2% shareholders in your corporation or whatever it is that you are?

Wait, you said it's not a corporation, but by definition "shareholders" hold stock in a corporation. Are Brazil and Tank shareholders or stakeholders in whatever legal entity Manwin is? If not, who were you referring to?
Unless I am totally blind, you are talking about brazil and tank there... so sorry...

Regarding the listing of public corp docs... that would remove all the fun in talking to someone like you on here... you have to do some of the work and at least find it yourself!

opflix 07-18-2010 07:34 AM

why are posts being edited on this joint? i clearly read what i posted after i posted it and now its gone :eek7

pradaboy 07-18-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17344304)
why are posts being edited on this joint? i clearly read what i posted after i posted it and now its gone :eek7

money = power

MikeSmoke 07-18-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17343491)
That's another topic altogether, but I have always disliked any site that uses purchased, non-exclusive content. I believe in exclusive content, myself. This isn't to insult any content producers, as a number of them do very good work, but just a general opinion.

Aren't you leaving out a very big category --- sites that use purchased, exclusive content? All the props in the world to people like Robbie who have a site built around a personality who can be interactive, but when you feature 6-12 exclusive models a month shot to our specs, as we do, interactivity with the models isn't really an option.

(I've tried member/community interactivity in my free community area. But surprise of all surprises, they're not interested; they spend their interactive time, "interacting" with each other on sites that let them upload and download stolen content. Most of their "interaction" consists of "Ooooh, nice one. MORE, PLEASE!" )

will76 07-18-2010 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17344169)

Is that dirtyD ?

will76 07-18-2010 09:13 AM

I don't know, when I am at the point that I can buy 100 million dollar companies I will likely never visit GFY again lol.

JFK 07-18-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17344412)
I don't know, when I am at the point that I can buy 100 million dollar companies I will likely never visit GFY again lol.

Yes, but that is you ;)

bdjerk 07-18-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Thurbs (Post 17343958)
Not sure why everyone is so quick to the pitch forks.

While I'm not familiar with who the players at Virage / Manwin are, I know that the sale happened. This isn't a smoke and mirrors sale, ownership has changed hands. Any buyer in the program market can tell you this.

That being said, I know for a fact that when buying a company and retaining the operational staff, last thing on your mind is changing all the company letterhead.

Acquisition space is a fast action, hit them hard and see returns game. I'm sure they are all looking for ways to increase the bottom line, or integrate their more profitable business methods.

I know first hand that Pornhub network of tubes have all been quietly working very hard with original content owners to further monetize the content directly and get the tubes to what they could have always been, a real traffic source for content owners to earn with. ( As long as DMCA is the loop hole, I'd take 50% of something , over 100% of nothing )

I'd say that when a guy like Fabian comes out and gives a direct line of contact, people with problems should use it.

oh shut the fuck up, you work for a guy who single handedly(almost) fucked the whole banking community. the little 'cleaning up the spill' disaster response from fabien is pathetic. he's no angel. cry me a fucking river.

JFK 07-18-2010 09:14 AM

One Fitty.....................one .............. :(

bdjerk 07-18-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17343963)
Call me crazy but a man who can afford to drop over 100 million dollars on a criminal enterprise would not be wasting his time on GFY in such a useless conversation.

I'm calling shenanigans.

it wasn't his money. he's a front man. a modern day joe E.
he's the guy all the invisible money men, the pupeteers looked around and said, "hey we really need a guy that we can send to the morons down on the street. someone who has half a shot at turning the image around because he used to be someone who bro'd around and shook hands at shows. who can we put out there in the front?"

world meet nathan. he's not a big money man, he's a firefighter.

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bdjerk (Post 17344415)
you work for a guy who single handedly(almost) fucked the whole banking community.

Nailed that one. hahaha did some serious damage.

Tjeezers 07-18-2010 10:55 AM

Good luck with your business and answering posts here
From what I have seen and read, you seem to be a good fit for the adult industry.

TwinCities 07-18-2010 11:52 AM

I am really not sure what all the hoopla is here in this big ass thread. Manwin is a great company and I have eaten their Sloppy Joe's since I was a kid.

marketsmart 07-18-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinCities (Post 17344601)
I am really not sure what all the hoopla is here in this big ass thread. Manwin is a great company and I have eaten their Sloppy Joe's since I was a kid.

did you know that there are actually 2 servings of vegetables in a sloppy joe sandwich?

and they are delicious too..... :thumbsup





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lazycash 07-18-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 17344552)
Good luck with your business and answering posts here
From what I have seen and read, you seem to be a good fit for the adult industry.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

crazytrini85 07-18-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinCities (Post 17344601)
I am really not sure what all the hoopla is here in this big ass thread. Manwin is a great company and I have eaten their Sloppy Joe's since I was a kid.

:1orglaugh

babymaker 07-18-2010 01:14 PM

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