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yabate 07-22-2010 10:29 PM
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Let's put this to bed once and for all, folks: There's no such thing as a "duplicate content penalty." At least, not in the way most people mean when they say that.

There are some penalties that are related to the idea of having the same content as another site—for example, if you're scraping content from other sites and republishing it, or if you republish content without adding any additional value. These tactics are clearly outlined (and discouraged) in our Webmaster Guidelines:

* Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.
* Avoid... "cookie cutter" approaches such as affiliate programs with little or no original content.
* If your site participates in an affiliate program, make sure that your site adds value. Provide unique and relevant content that gives users a reason to visit your site first.

(Note that while scraping content from others is discouraged, having others scrape you is a different story; check out this post if you're worried about being scraped.)

But most site owners whom I hear worrying about duplicate content aren't talking about scraping or domain farms; they're talking about things like having multiple URLs on the same domain that point to the same content. Like http://www.example.com/skates.asp?co...&brand=riedell and http://www.example.com/skates.asp?br...ll&color=black. Having this type of duplicate content on your site can potentially affect your site's performance, but it doesn't cause penalties. From our article on duplicate content:

Duplicate content on a site is not grounds for action on that site unless it appears that the intent of the duplicate content is to be deceptive and manipulate search engine results. If your site suffers from duplicate content issues, and you don't follow the advice listed above, we do a good job of choosing a version of the content to show in our search results.

This type of non-malicious duplication is fairly common, especially since many CMSs don't handle this well by default. So when people say that having this type of duplicate content can affect your site, it's not because you're likely to be penalized; it's simply due to the way that web sites and search engines work.

Most search engines strive for a certain level of variety; they want to show you ten different results on a search results page, not ten different URLs that all have the same content. To this end, Google tries to filter out duplicate documents so that users experience less redundancy. You can find details in this blog post, which states:

1. When we detect duplicate content, such as through variations caused by URL parameters, we group the duplicate URLs into one cluster.
2. We select what we think is the "best" URL to represent the cluster in search results.
3. We then consolidate properties of the URLs in the cluster, such as link popularity, to the representative URL.

Here's how this could affect you as a webmaster:

* In step 2, Google's idea of what the "best" URL is might not be the same as your idea. If you want to have control over whether http://www.example.com/skates.asp?co...&brand=riedell or http://www.example.com/skates.asp?br...ll&color=black gets shown in our search results, you may want to take action to mitigate your duplication. One way of letting us know which URL you prefer is by including the preferred URL in your Sitemap.
* In step 3, if we aren't able to detect all the duplicates of a particular page, we won't be able to consolidate all of their properties. This may dilute the strength of that content's ranking signals by splitting them across multiple URLs.

In most cases Google does a good job of handling this type of duplication. However, you may also want to consider content that's being duplicated across domains. In particular, deciding to build a site whose purpose inherently involves content duplication is something you should think twice about if your business model is going to rely on search traffic, unless you can add a lot of additional value for users. For example, we sometimes hear from Amazon.com affiliates who are having a hard time ranking for content that originates solely from Amazon. Is this because Google wants to stop them from trying to sell Everyone Poops? No; it's because how the heck are they going to outrank Amazon if they're providing the exact same listing? Amazon has a lot of online business authority (most likely more than a typical Amazon affiliate site does), and the average Google search user probably wants the original information on Amazon, unless the affiliate site has added a significant amount of additional value.

Lastly, consider the effect that duplication can have on your site's bandwidth. Duplicated content can lead to inefficient crawling: when Googlebot discovers ten URLs on your site, it has to crawl each of those URLs before it knows whether they contain the same content (and thus before we can group them as described above). The more time and resources that Googlebot spends crawling duplicate content across multiple URLs, the less time it has to get to the rest of your content.
Post from official google blog

etc..etc..

Sorry for two posts in a row, but post is limited on 10 000 chars.
Greetings :)

Jakez 07-22-2010 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 17355264)
Some dictionaries say there is more than 500,000 words in the English language. I think it's possible to create less duplicate content. It difficult to learn all the words.
So fucking annoying.

Supz 07-22-2010 11:01 PM
lol. who cares. i think more people get to yahoo, cnn, and every other news site by type in traffic more then google.

HighEnergy 07-22-2010 11:22 PM
Dupe content on the same domain name = not so good.
Dupe content on multiple domain names = OK.

@PornMD ...
You're just a kid who got lucky once, entirely due to the short lived Parking Panel escapade and an accidental lucky domain catch. You have NO idea what building, maintaining, or monetizing a web site is about. Go back to some domain forum where they might think you know something. *

This is a web master forum, and you simply don't qualify.


* Oh wait ...... none of them do!

PornMD 07-23-2010 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HighEnergy (Post 17356961)
@PornMD ...
You're just a kid who got lucky once, entirely due to the short lived Parking Panel escapade and an accidental lucky domain catch. You have NO idea what building, maintaining, or monetizing a web site is about. Go back to some domain forum where they might think you know something. *

This is a web master forum, and you simply don't qualify.


* Oh wait ...... none of them do!
First off, "got lucky once" (which I agree Poker.in was a lucky buy, albeit based on educated research/experience) != making a living selling domains, which is what I've been doing for almost 3 years now. I thought you knew that given you know so much about me.

Secondly, you're right, I don't run websites, I sell domains. However, if what I said was wrong, what part of it was wrong? How many SEO tactics are NOT tied to common sense when looking at things from the eyes of Google trying to maintain relevant authoritative results? SEO is all about using the things that Google's algorithm takes into account (and to a limited degree the other SE's) to get better rankings, and Google's intent with their algorithm is to have relevant authoritative results...what part of that is wrong? You're correct in that duplicate content on the same domain is worse than on separate domains...that's common knowledge and not what the OP was asking about. Do you however think a scraper site would get no penalties whatsoever?

cambaby 07-23-2010 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 17357004)
SEO is all about using the things that Google's algorithm takes into account (and to a limited degree the other SE's) to get better rankings, and Google's intent with their algorithm is to have relevant authoritative results...what part of that is wrong? Do you however think a scraper site would get no penalties whatsoever?
The cake is a lie.

Barefootsies 07-23-2010 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17357012)
The cake is a lie.
What about the blue pill?

Do you still stay in wonderland and see how far the rabbit hole goes?

LaoTzu 07-23-2010 06:09 AM
Duplicate Content Matters - Google "rel=canonical"

SEO is a science and an art. If your understanding of the field can be boiled down to broad generalizations like the title of this thread then you have a lot to learn.

pornguy 07-23-2010 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17355245)
I have found that It matters more in porn than mainstream, especially news.

ALso these news and portal sites have many visitors, low bouncerate and usually massive backlinks.
Back links to the point that about 85% of the people around here have exit buttons to them.

Sausage 07-23-2010 08:04 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

This thread is comedy gold. Keep going guys ... this is really entertaining :)

Everyone is a SEO expert !

Socks 07-23-2010 08:09 AM
http://www.frenchgirlsarecrazy.com/w...ks_1_mouth.jpg

Agent 488 07-23-2010 08:10 AM
50 dupe contents.

Barefootsies 07-23-2010 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17357643)
50 dupe contents.
Fiddy comedy gold

$5 submissions 10-09-2010 05:00 PM
Duplicate content penalty is NO JOKE. http://www.highrevenue.com/content-s...lty-is-no-joke

Tempest 10-09-2010 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Highest Def (Post 17356469)
Penalized is the wrong word, but if you search google and go through the first 10 or 20 pages, you will see this message..
Those are additional result pages on the same sites that they've already listed in the SERPs. That's different than the same content on multiple sites.

Nookster 10-09-2010 07:58 PM
It's a pretty complex algorithm but to that extent, it's just another statistic to look at. If you're article/piece of content is 100% unique you will see 100% of the serps for the keywords associated. But yes, as your article gets syndicated you will gradually lose serps because of that but they don't "penalize" you for it as severely as most would like to assume, unless of course you're truly spamming the content across the net.

Marshal 10-09-2010 08:05 PM
didn't read the thread, but "duplicated content" penalty is all about having the same content on many pages of one site (affiliate links on one site). if you include the source link when quoting anything, you wouldn't be a copycat in google's eyes. that's all i have to say about so called "SEO experts"...

Marshal 10-09-2010 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 17357640)
you saved the thread... :upsidedow


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