Sick looking design!:thumbsup FAA recently granted approval to a car/plane hybrid

The electric car has never "failed", per se and contrary to what that Big Fat Idiot Michael Moore and people like him tell you, no one "killed" the electric car.

The driving range of around 40 miles has been with the electric car since its inception in the late 19th Century. Electric cars were limited by battery technology, which until recently was essentially lead-acid cells. If anyone "killed" the electric car, it was the PUBLIC which wanted a greater driving range than 40 miles.

I would suggest that before you start telling evryone about electric cars, about which some of you know absolutley NOTHING, you LEARN a bit from sites like these:

http://www.earlyelectric.com/

http://www.detroitelectric.org/

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/223/ele...-timeline.html

Google:

"Baker Electric".

Electric cars are cute but in one way or another, still rely primarily of fossil fuel-generated recharging.

Sally.*

*Sally knows a bit about cars; her Corvette is a '68, 427, 430 hp, six-pack, four-speed, air conditoned convertible, yellow with a black interior, which her father bought new, It is updated only with the factory improved radiator. Yes, Sally knows what it is worth but does not care.

Isn't the average wage in the USA something like $30k? Not everyone can be a baller like you. For comparison, in Australia, a car costing approximately 1.3 times the average wage would be wandering into luxury territory. (Bear in mind our average wage is more like $USD50k)

fuck off "sally."

Micheal Moore didnt do the documentary on the electric car. The problem is its basically a second car and 41k is alot of money for a second car. I agree if they made it 15 k they would actually sell. If the electric car took off it would be against alot of people's best interests.

Already being done in India and China, the manufacturers are too busy selling them like hotcakes to markets that aren't as impossible for car makers to get into as the US. REVA comes to mind for starters.

I wrote:

"The electric car has never "failed", per se and contrary to what that Big Fat Idiot Michael Moore and people like him tell you, no one "killed" the electric car."

Try READING my posts!

I know MM didn't do the bogus documentary but he did do "Roger And Me" much of which was out-and-out libel.

Automakers will build anything that will sell, so electric cars are not against anyone's interests. More paranoia, like the killing of the 200MPG carburetor. Of course there never was a 200MPG carburetor but the conspiracists believe whatever they want.

Sally.

You do realize that Roger and Me is not about the electric car correct? It is about the poor management of the auto industry, their outsourcing of jobs and how the people who lost their jobs to this outsourcing react and survive.

If you want to rail against people who wrongly represent the electric car, cool. But you should probably rail against the correct people.

I did read what you wrote sally :) You said "The electric car has never "failed", per se and contrary to what that Big Fat Idiot Michael Moore and people like him tell you, no one "killed" the electric car." Roger and me had nothing to do about electric cars. "Who killed the electric car" was documentary that MM didnt do. I actually worked on the line for GM( built the buick century and the pontiac 6000) it was very fucked up actually.

@ $350/month - the thing would practically pay for itself for most people.

You figure most people spend between $120-$250/month in gas. That would be extra income which would counter the monthly payment.



...Later this year, watch many Americans go out and purchase a $41,000 electric vehicle for almost zero cost!

EV1 = Fail

What about electricity? How many miles to the kilowatt hour? How many miles do the batteries last?

Electricity costs are likely to increase sharply in the coming years due to the demands placed on ageing infrastructure. Imagine if the cost of petrol went up by 300% in a decade?

True. That's why power companies are installing Smart meters. Smart electric meters can charge more for power at different times of the day "Peek Time prices"

The power infrastructure can not take a new EV at everyones home. So they will just rase the price of power to cut back the use.


http://prepperman.com/wp-content/upl...mart-meter.jpg

Electric cars can be programmed to recharge only when power is cheapest (for example:night) .... or perhaps day (if you have a home solar array).

Gm killed the EV1 when they cancelled it. Cancel = kill

People and businesses only have finite knowledge,resources, and time. They can make good decisions and bad decisions. Some people will progress while other people will regress. That's how evolution works. The people who regress will suffer or die out. GM is on life support now because that company has too many people who made too many bad decisions/actions.

Think about this ... There might not be any hybrid cars on American roads today if Toyota believed the same idiotic bullshit that Ford and GM believed which was "Hybrid cars wont sell well".

Toyota proved them wrong on hybrids. I am betting that Electric cars will be as successful or even more successful than hybrids. Dont believe the grease monkeys in Detroit who hate or dont understand non-oil burning cars. They live in the past. They dont want to change. They need to die out and let other, more progressive people, design the future.

Would people buy the Volt in higher numbers if the price of oil goes past 100 per barrel like it did a few years ago?

There are better ways to power a car than gas and electricity, and they'll be found in the coming years.

How about the car that runs on compressed air?

Whether you like it or not we will all be driving electric cars in a generation. Or you will be pay a lot for the gas to fuel the cars of today.

The cheap oil is running out, the major oil producers know that and want to make as much money as they can on a dwindling resource. Oil will still be available, but not at the price it is today.

Electric cars are in their infancy. They will improve and get cheaper. Anyone here old enough to remember what a PC cost 30 years ago and how good it was?

I personally like compressed air cars more than electric cars. An air tank costs almost nothing compared to electric batteries (which must be occasionally replaced). And filling an air tank is normally much faster than charging a battery pack. Air compressors can be electrically powered and could easily be installed at many fuel stations.

The problem is that compressed air cars need enormous amounts of compressed air to get the same range as electric. And there is risk of ear damage if a tank ruptures. sound protection is needed.

As far as I know, rotary compressed air engines are the most efficient engine/motor in the world. And they are small/light/cheap too.

The Di Pietro Motor (Rotary Air Engine)
 

http://www.engineair.com.au/airmotor.htm

The Di Pietro Motor (Rotary Air Engine)

"There is no other motor as good as ours, years of research and analysing other motors around the world gave me the confidence and obligation to say so. Obligation in the sense that people have been waiting for ages in relation to efficiency in order to take care of our environmental situation.

100% more efficiency than our competitor is a very serious claim and should not be confused with some kind of publicity stunt were the interest is purely to try and make money out of some ridiculous claim.

The invention has a long list of important improvements over other motors.

The concept has the capability to change the method we use for transportation, apart from the benefits of energy saving in stationary applications.

We have verification of its performance
We have patents issued
It has outstanding efficiency
It has constant high torque
It has low parts count
It has low number of moving parts
It is compact and light
It has virtually no friction
It has virtually no vibration
It has smooth speed control characteristics
Only 1 PSI of pressure is needed to overcame the friction
THAT'S CORRECT ONLY 1 PSI !!

Powered by the Di Pietro Engine
 

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Minutes to refuel
No dangerous petroleum, fuels or fumes
No lengthy or costly recharging or renewing of batteries

How many oil changes, replacement parts tune and other aftermarket sales would GM lose if everyone went electric? That's why the car is so expensive.

As for counting the "tax credit" as reducing the cost. No the cost is the cost. You also pay sales tax on the higher price.

I believe strongly in electric, though the E-ride I drive now is a piece of shit.

Electricity is practically free compared to gasoline. :winkwink:

The chevy volts comparison numbers are based on 11 cents per Kilowatt hour and $2.61 a gallon.

Where I live electricity is based on time of use, low of 5.3 cents and a high of 9.9 cents. Gas costs about $3.78 a gallon.

The volt would be a huge savings in fuel cost. I wonder what it will be priced like in Canada.

I mean based on their numbers for 11 cents costing $1.50 a day if you stay under 40 miles, I could pay 75 cents a day for "fuel" prb. more than half the week... crazy.

it's called the Aptera, they have an all electric model and they're building one with gas that gets 300 mpg

Of course I do but Michael Moore has done as much damage to the US auto industry as the industry did to itself and I detest the fat, smug, liberal fuck, who is nothing but a pimp for America haters and the uneducated "liberal" left, dedicated to the destruction of the United States.

I am railing against those who advocate for electric cars but who in reality know virtually nothing about electric cars or why they really don't work.

Outsourcing is the direct result of excessively high wages due to labor unions which have outlived their usefulness. The punitive UAW contracts resulted in GM becoming an HMO which built cars on the side.

Sally.

Anyone who thinks electricity won't go up in price if everybody stopped using petrol is a bit deluded.