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The Demon 07-30-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17375775)
They didn't you moron! That is the reason the Democrats choose this procedure.

They would pay the bill by closing a tax loophole of corporations incorporating in tax haven countries from avoiding tax on income earned in the U.S.


R u against giving health care to first responders?

Wow, you really are a blabbering idiot.

IllTestYourGirls 07-30-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17375775)
R u against giving health care to 9/11 first responders?

No I am not.

Are you for raising their taxes by up to 50%?

Taxing their death?

PenisFace 07-30-2010 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17375784)
Wow, you really are a blabbering idiot.

You never have any counter arguments, all you ever do is insult people and complain about "liberals". You are the worst kind of troll.

TheSenator 07-30-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace (Post 17376055)
You never have any counter arguments, all you ever do is insult people and complain about "liberals". You are the worst kind of troll.

Its surprising the amount of denial that goes on.


I pretty shocked that Baddog is against giving the 9/11 heros health care.

kane 07-30-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 17375643)
Don't the Repubs need a majority to get their amendments added?

Technically yes, however, one party often adds things to a bill just for political gain knowing it won't pass. For example, several years ago there was some kind of spending bill that was up. It was filled with pork and junk spending. One of the provisions added to it was that it would supply some money for more bullet proof vests for soldiers. John Kerry voted against it. He voted against it because he thought it was a bad bill. The amendment for more body armor was just one of hundreds of pork amendments in the bill.

So then when Kerry is running for president the republicans roll out the ads talking about how he voted against funding for body armor for our troops. So technically it was correct, but it was not really all that accurate. There have been other similar bills. There was another one that the democrats put up that had a ton of pork spending in it and one amendment for more ammo for the troops. It got voted down and the democrats went on the offensive saying that republicans are blocking funding for ammo for our troops.

So the democrats wanted this procedure so that there could be none of these last minute amendments added to the bill that would force them to vote against them and make them look bad.

Vendzilla 07-30-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17376514)
Its surprising the amount of denial that goes on.


I pretty shocked that Baddog is against giving the 9/11 heros health care.

They worked for the city right, in New York? You don't think they have healthcare?

And the guy that Weiner is yelling at the top of his lungs at ( Peter King), he voted yes, kinda puts thing in prespective don't it

IllTestYourGirls 07-30-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17375793)
No I am not.

Are you for raising their taxes by up to 50%?

Taxing their death?

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17376514)
Its surprising the amount of denial that goes on.


I pretty shocked that Baddog is against giving the 9/11 heros health care.

I am shocked that the dems want to raise their taxes 50% and tax their widows. :mad:

poncabare 07-30-2010 06:18 PM

"They would pay the bill by closing a tax loophole of corporations incorporating in tax haven countries from avoiding tax on income earned in the U.S. "


Como?

TheSenator 07-30-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17376550)
They worked for the city right, in New York? You don't think they have healthcare?

And the guy that Weiner is yelling at the top of his lungs at ( Peter King), he voted yes, kinda puts thing in prespective don't it

Not all NYC emergency services are covered by health care. A big chunk were volunteer EMS, fire fighters and various other volunteers.

Some even gave up their lives in saving others immediately after the first air plane slammed into the Twin Towers.

tony286 07-30-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17376567)
I am shocked that the dems want to raise their taxes 50% and tax their widows. :mad:

please post a real news source for that?

MattO 07-30-2010 06:55 PM

The saddest part about this whole thing is that while the mud slinging and blaming is flying around, and armchair pundits bicker about which party is right, there are people ill from 9/11 who need serious assistance.

tony286 07-30-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17376640)
Not all NYC emergency services are covered by health care. A big chunk were volunteer EMS, fire fighters and various other volunteers.

Some even gave up their lives in saving others immediately after the first air plane slammed into the Twin Towers.

yep that will teach them to volunteer off their shifts to help . They will vote no so they can get in and then they will spend away like they did when they controlled it all.

IllTestYourGirls 07-30-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17376647)
please post a real news source for that?

http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...c-bdaa935256d3

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As Investor's Business Daily pointed out yesterday, if no action is taken, "(t)he lowest bracket for the personal income tax, for instance, moves up 50 percent -- to 15 percent from 10 percent. The next lowest bracket -- 25 percent -- will rise to 28 percent, and the old 28 percent bracket will be 31 percent. At the higher end, the 33 percent bracket is pushed to 36 percent and the 35 percent bracket becomes 39.6 percent."
along with many others. Most of the sources you masturbate over like msnbc will only point out the hike from 35 to 39.6 or the 31 to 33. You know those "unbiased" sources. :1orglaugh

Letting the Bush tax cuts expire would also place back the death tax.

tony286 07-30-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17376767)
http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...c-bdaa935256d3



along with many others. Most of the sources you masturbate over like msnbc will only point out the hike from 35 to 39.6 or the 31 to 33. You know those "unbiased" sources. :1orglaugh

Letting the Bush tax cuts expire would also place back the death tax.

Yep you got me pegged thats why I got pushed off of a big liberal blog ,they called me a right wing plant. lol Thats if they take no action they plan on taking action so it effects only those making 200k or more. Also the death tax exempts 3.5 million for one person and 7 million for a couple. But you can beat that one all you have to do is die this year. But you want to go war, fight terror, pay down the deficit. It costs money to do all that, Cant do it with bullshit talk, we are tough want smaller government and then run up the bill. Funny I dont remember you screaming when W was running up the old Chinese credit card.

Sly 07-30-2010 09:01 PM

I'm always amazed how the minority party, in both chambers and the Executive Office, has so much power. Well, at least we know next time the Republicans take over the House, Senate, and Oval the Democrats won't be sidelined.

This isn't even a right and left argument. It's a bunch of people nervous about elections playing politics. That's it. The Democrats can push through all sorts of bills that the Republicans don't want any part of, and they do it, and they can't push this through? Come on.

Our government "leaders" are only fueling this partisan hate we see all around.

kane 07-30-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17376803)
I'm always amazed how the minority party, in both chambers and the Executive Office, has so much power. Well, at least we know next time the Republicans take over the House, Senate, and Oval the Democrats won't be sidelined.

This isn't even a right and left argument. It's a bunch of people nervous about elections playing politics. That's it. The Democrats can push through all sorts of bills that the Republicans don't want any part of, and they do it, and they can't push this through? Come on.

Our government "leaders" are only fueling this partisan hate we see all around.

The irony is they don't really have that much power, but in this case the democrats are kind of spineless. In the senate the only real recourse the republicans have is to filibuster. They threaten it all the time and the democrats give in and believe them. The democrats can't break the filibuster so instead of calling the bluff and forcing the republicans to actually filibuster and bring everything to a halt they give in.

If they had any balls they would tell the republicans to filibuster and then explain to the people why nothing is getting done because they are filibustering everything that hits the floor. But that doesn't happen.

Part of it may also be that the republicans know what comes around goes around so when they eventually get a majority back if they did nothing but filibuster everything they know the democrats would do it right back to them.

Sly 07-30-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 17376817)
The irony is they don't really have that much power, but in this case the democrats are kind of spineless.

I was being sarcastic. :-)

"If only we had control of Congress!"


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