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StinkyPink 08-01-2010 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AK (Post 17379665)
Dont be modest, I'm sure there are other cam companies who can convert for you.
I am serious when it comes to this, you'll probably have to go thru few sponsors until you find the right one for your traffic. :2 cents:
I hate to do it, but I may have to resort to AFF/Cams I just hate that company.

CHARGER 08-01-2010 12:57 PM
do you ask all your client to provide your site with their phone numbers?

sexdatesj 08-01-2010 03:26 PM
the name would help, alot of cheaters exist.

dav3 08-01-2010 05:25 PM
Speaking of intentional fraudulent scamming practices:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/a...match_com.aspx

http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycom...om-a30195.html

http://amateurmatch.pissedconsumer.c...317115709.html

Thanks for helping to destroy consumer trust in the online adult market!

pornjudge 08-01-2010 06:31 PM
LOL funny thread eh ... A fraud reports another fraud... Karma is a bitch sometimes... what goes around comes around.

I only trust one cam site that I promote & doing pretty good with them

rev 1/41
pps 1/120

I tried most of the cam sites out there & they suck balls. Oh btw guys I have one thing to say... Only promote cam sites that offer small PPS payouts.. Don't trust cam sites that give out huge payouts for PPS.. they are just trying to lure you in so you could send them allot of traffic. Most of these programs will convert like shit.

my :2 cents:

MontrealPimp 08-01-2010 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 17380272)
Speaking of intentional fraudulent scamming practices:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/a...match_com.aspx

http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycom...om-a30195.html

http://amateurmatch.pissedconsumer.c...317115709.html

Thanks for helping to destroy consumer trust in the online adult market!

Wow thats some intense stuff

looky_lou 08-01-2010 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 17380272)
Speaking of intentional fraudulent scamming practices:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/a...match_com.aspx

http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycom...om-a30195.html

http://amateurmatch.pissedconsumer.c...317115709.html

Thanks for helping to destroy consumer trust in the online adult market!
Very interesting. Looks like you are running a fine, upstanding, reputable program over there AK. :321GFY

Better keep an eye out for those fraudulent affiliates.

AK 08-01-2010 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 17380272)
Speaking of intentional fraudulent scamming practices:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/a...match_com.aspx

http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycom...om-a30195.html

http://amateurmatch.pissedconsumer.c...317115709.html

Thanks for helping to destroy consumer trust in the online adult market!
When you run adult dating sites, chance is you some unhappy customers and usually they are the one who will say anything to complaint.

Now I remember I had terminated one of your "friend" or "referred" affiliate that you would make money on had I not catch it on time. Actually, it was kinda too late since we did get a charge back out of your "friend" affiliate with high PPS.

I see that your account is still active with us, and I invite you to message me on ICQ or email me that you would like to close your account with us.

I did not have any proof that you were involved with your "friend" affiliate.

Funny how I messaged you few times about some posts you did and you did not even bother to message me back.

AK 08-01-2010 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornjudge (Post 17380363)
LOL funny thread eh ... A fraud reports another fraud... Karma is a bitch sometimes... what goes around comes around.

I only trust one cam site that I promote & doing pretty good with them

rev 1/41
pps 1/120

I tried most of the cam sites out there & they suck balls. Oh btw guys I have one thing to say... Only promote cam sites that offer small PPS payouts.. Don't trust cam sites that give out huge payouts for PPS.. they are just trying to lure you in so you could send them allot of traffic. Most of these programs will convert like shit.

my :2 cents:
I wish that ALL affiliates are like you. Not demanding high payouts in the industry. When it comes to cam sites, always go with revshare IF you know your traffic is legit.
Sponsors like us LOVE working with revshare affiliates because the risks are lower on our part.

With revshare, Affiliates can't make money with "put your credit card for free and make $25 cash (because im making $60 just for sending my sponsors trial sales or initial sales)"...

well you get my point. It sucks when affiliates get caught.

AK 08-01-2010 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by looky_lou (Post 17380487)
Very interesting. Looks like you are running a fine, upstanding, reputable program over there AK. :321GFY

Better keep an eye out for those fraudulent affiliates.
i dont have anything for you but when you are in need of fighting fraud affiliates, my icq line is open for you, not sure if you ever run an affiliate program or not.

Atticus 08-01-2010 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AK (Post 17380524)
When you run adult dating sites, chance is you some unhappy customers and usually they are the one who will say anything to complaint.

Now I remember I had terminated one of your "friend" or "referred" affiliate that you would make money on had I not catch it on time. Actually, it was kinda too late since we did get a charge back out of your "friend" affiliate with high PPS.

I see that your account is still active with us, and I invite you to message me on ICQ or email me that you would like to close your account with us.

I did not have any proof that you were involved with your "friend" affiliate.

Funny how I messaged you few times about some posts you did and you did not even bother to message me back.
You need to hire a PR team. Seriously.

I understand that English isnt your first language but if you're trying to respond to an affiliate complaint, either run it by a PR team that does or just dont post in the first place.

Your posts come across as defensive, cocky and glib. If thats your intent then just disregard that previous paragraph.

dav3 08-01-2010 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AK (Post 17380524)
When you run adult dating sites, chance is you some unhappy customers and usually they are the one who will say anything to complaint.
"Some" unhappy customers? Yea, there's hundreds of complaints on multiple consumer protection sites. That's hardly "some":

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/a...match_com.aspx

http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycom...om-a30195.html

http://amateurmatch.pissedconsumer.c...317115709.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by AK (Post 17380524)
Now I remember I had terminated one of your "friend" or "referred" affiliate that you would make money on had I not catch it on time. Actually, it was kinda too late since we did get a charge back out of your "friend" affiliate with high PPS.
What's that got to do with me? When you run a scam dating site, you are going to get chargebacks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AK (Post 17380524)
I see that your account is still active with us, and I invite you to message me on ICQ or email me that you would like to close your account with us.
No. You still get clicks from my residual links. If I generate a sale for you, I expect to get paid. Actually, I don't because your program is less than honorable.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AK (Post 17380524)
Funny how I messaged you few times about some posts you did and you did not even bother to message me back.
Umm.. what? Any messages that I get I respond to. Try pressing the send button next time.

AK 08-01-2010 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AK (Post 17380524)
When you run adult dating sites, chance is you some unhappy customers and usually they are the one who will say anything to complaint.

Now I remember I had terminated one of your "friend" or "referred" affiliate that you would make money on had I not catch it on time. Actually, it was kinda too late since we did get a charge back out of your "friend" affiliate with high PPS.

I see that your account is still active with us, and I invite you to message me on ICQ or email me that you would like to close your account with us.

I did not have any proof that you were involved with your "friend" affiliate.

Funny how I messaged you few times about some posts you did and you did not even bother to message me back.
Dav3, just to show people who read this that your "friend" affiliate that you would vouch for since you've known him for 12 years or so...

Let's just say this... his traffic is GOLDEN, he's prolly the best converting affiliate we've ever had, running a $125 PPS Valentine's promo.

24 uniques, 5 free joins and 2 sales (at $125/sale) = $250 commissions.
One of the 5 profiles signed up from the city he lives in (maybe it was a test sign up to see if the lead is tracked) so its actually 23 uniques, 4 leads, 2 sales.

Im sure dating sponsors want this kind of affiliate on their program, WRONG.

When our fraud analyst called to verify the sales, she was told that they signed up because their friends asked them to signup. ooops!

dav3 08-01-2010 09:33 PM
Poor Brad in Kansas, all he wanted was to meet a lovely woman. Instead, he got this:

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I joined this dating service, thinking it may be fun...and real. I was wrong! Once they got my $25 membership, I could see that the profiles, photos, and emails were just too good to be true. They were. The site uses internet pictures and fictitious "dates" to stir up business, it's called "bait and switch." I noticed that the profiles oddly resembled other profiles, even the tag lines seemed similar, as if written by the same person or persons. Not to mention internal inconsistencies, as to geographic location and interests/preferences. No one (real) person responded, and those who did respond referred me to other sites to "view" them, at additional expense, of course. I promptly canceled my membership. The only entertainment I received was the fun of watching my money go away. This site preys upon the lonely, naive, and desperate. Don't go there!!! It's funny, after I discontinued my premium membership and retained "free" member status, all the emails
and gallery invitations from my "buddies" and "hot dates" disappeared, wow!

http://www.ripoffreport.com/adult-we...site-q3b32.htm

AK 08-01-2010 09:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 17380557)
"Some" unhappy customers? Yea, there's hundreds of complaints on multiple consumer protection sites. That's hardly "some":

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/a...match_com.aspx

http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycom...om-a30195.html

http://amateurmatch.pissedconsumer.c...317115709.html



What's that got to do with me? When you run a scam dating site, you are going to get chargebacks.



No. You still get clicks from my residual links. If I generate a sale for you, I expect to get paid. Actually, I don't because your program is less than honorable.



Umm.. what? Any messages that I get I respond to. Try pressing the send button next time.
You're right, ICQ sucks. My bad, I did not enter my several messages at different times.

I just ran your overall stats since the last time we paid your commission back in December, That's a long ass residual links... I see that we still owe you $4.99.

And it is your opinion that our program is less honorable but Since you started promoting us, you made some money not a lot but you could buy a used honda civic with it.
We did pay you because we didnt think that you were doing fraud at all but since your "friend" affiliate got caught, you've definitely put our program on your shitlist...

And with the rate of the clicks/day, i doubt there will be any sales coming in.
Like you said, our program is less than honorable. Why even bother keeping your account?

AK 08-01-2010 09:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17380551)
You need to hire a PR team. Seriously.

I understand that English isnt your first language but if you're trying to respond to an affiliate complaint, either run it by a PR team that does or just dont post in the first place.

Your posts come across as defensive, cocky and glib. If thats your intent then just disregard that previous paragraph.
point taken and thanks for your advice.
i will refrain from doing any more posts ;)
but if anyone would like to chat with me about fraud affiliates, im back on m icq after the FL show.

thanks again

dav3 08-01-2010 09:52 PM
Declan 500 in Ireland was looking to meet some local hotties. Unfortunately, he never did:

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I first put my profile on this site to see what would happen, I knew I would not be able tocontact anyone but it was a toe in the water. I was surprised by the number of emails I got, I had some reservations as to how genuine these responses were. For instance, some of the contacts claimed that they were in my area (ireland) but the language used suggested otherwise, " love going to the lake, cabin" nobody living here would say that. Anyway gave it a shot and paid the fee and suddenly no more emails so I cancelled the membership and guess what?yes loads of email again and a lot of very familiar contacts. It's a Rip Off dont do it, buy yourself a good book with the $20 and who knows ... You might meet someone at the book shop.

http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...m-c214296.html

Jayvis 08-01-2010 09:53 PM
Dav3 didn't you run us in your sig for quite a while and happily spammed your ref link whenever someone needed dating or cams? Not only that but you leave Loaded Cash + PussyCash (both run dating sites) in there and yet come here to post complaints on just Amateur Match? You seem pretty angry but I'm not exactly sure what we did to you personally that couldn't be resolved by talking to AK over ICQ?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but anyone else jumping on the bandwagon, I sure hope you aren't promoting the hundreds or thousands of paysites upselling dating inside their member's area.

I need to go quote a few Fuzebox posts on his explanation behind the science of promoting dating, its just like selling any other fantasy at the end of the day. And if you're not ok with promoting it, then so be it... but to waste your time on a board hating against a sponsor? Well, ok, I get it... this is GFY.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17380551)
You need to hire a PR team. Seriously.

I understand that English isnt your first language but if you're trying to respond to an affiliate complaint, either run it by a PR team that does or just dont post in the first place.

Your posts come across as defensive, cocky and glib. If thats your intent then just disregard that previous paragraph.
AK is one of the most humble guys you'll ever meet, I can promise ya thats not intentional. Usually he's on the go posting from his ipad or iphone when he replies to threads like this which doesn't help anyone in the typing department. I don't think he comes off as defensive, he's just trying to reply to all of the people who have something to say... which is more than I can say whenever other sponsors get called out and they suddenly vanish like the thread never happened. At the end of the day he posted this thread to help our competitors and the vast majority of GFY that do promote dating/cams.

dav3 08-01-2010 09:59 PM
Holy cow! This guy alerted the FBI and Secret Service! I'm sure they'll get right on the case!!!

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If you are a guy looking for a woman, do not, I repeat, DO NOT spend a dime at Amateur Match. I started with a free account where 6 - 8 women a day were sending email com-ons to me.

A friend had said he got great women from this site and so I thought, OK, I'm getting some good e-mails. I am very attractive man and do attract hot looking women on other dating sites.

After about a week or so, I decided to join to reply to all the hot ladies. No one responded. Not one and all the e-mails stopped. I went to the chat room, and all that were there were scripts of fake cam bots or women wanting you to go to Yahoo Messenger to chat and then wanted to cam for money and wanted your credit card. Some of the women chatting said the same lines over and over. More bots. I felt my stomach hit the floor.

I went out on the internet and googled the site and there were all the complaints. The same was said from the e-mails to the cam gals. All fake. All a scam. I canceled my subscription and tried calling the company. Nothing. I notified bank of America of the company and the tactics. They sent me to the business fraud group. They were great.

I then went back to the site and posted all of the information about the site in my profile and also went out and created a female account, which I then found out had full function without paying a dime.

I posted all the fraud info and a link to the government website www.ic3.gov on my female profile and then started adding 100's of men's as my buddies. I got 100's of replies stating "thank-you" for exposing them there on their own site.

I also alerted the FBI and the Secret Service and they agreed that www.ic3.gov was the best way to report the site's activity.

Daily I go out to check on the site, work the chat room to let the guys know who may have just joined and not know the truth. I hoped that eventually, the fraud team would get them, and today, I see the site is gone. I feel like I have made a difference against these scam artists.

I hope all that I helped will find this note as well and those who gave me their e-mail addresses I will follow up with once I am sure it is gone for good.

Cheers and Happy St. Paddy's Day!

http://amateurmatch.pissedconsumer.c...317115709.html

Jayvis 08-01-2010 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AK (Post 17380585)
point taken and thanks for your advice.
i will refrain from doing any more posts ;)
but if anyone would like to chat with me about fraud affiliates, im back on m icq after the FL show.

thanks again

Guys, if you need AK he'll be in his English classes followed up by an hour with his driving instructor.

dav3 08-03-2010 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 17380591)
its just like selling any other fantasy at the end of the day.
Translation: "We know it's scam, but who cares if we rip people off with fake profiles and emails?"


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