Truth. But metaman is still funny.. .

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we all have our demons. :2 cents: roll with the punches or get knocked the fuck out. when i feel bad i eat. :( ill tell you one thing a broken heart will heal. ask sabby over that will cheer you up fast! :1orglaugh

this is just too great. :thumbsup

YES that makes them a LOSER. if you are going to kill yourself because of some problems that dont really matter YOU ARE A LOSER.

if you sit at home and whine about life YOU ARE A LOSER. that is what LOSERS ARE.

i have been depressed, wondered if i wanted to stay around, and i was acting like a COMPLETE LOSER.

why the fuck do i want to help these LOSERS? seriously?

all people do these days in the world is focus on the negative douche bags while all the good people get passed over.

why do we as humans tie up so many resources trying help PIECES OF SHIT with their lame problems? And then we drain all of the resources away from people who SUCK IT UP and go along with their lives EVERYDAY without a complaint.

well fuck LOSERS and their depression along with it. you want to be a big baby and whine cause life isnt treating you right. FINE. but im not going to spend 2 seconds feeling sorry for you. because i dont feel sorry for LOSERS.

you want to be despressed and pop a bunch of meds because you are too big of a baby to look internally and solve real problems with yourself? FINE do it.

the entire point of depression is that you have INTERNAL problems. and yet you are going to pop meds to mask that pain instead of dealing with it? makes sense to me NOT.

wake up in a straw hut and drink water from the river that the cows shit in. then we can talk about depression. a bunch of grown babies. fuck off with this "depressed" shit. im tired of hearing about people and their lame fucking problems.

eat, shit, sleep, whatever gets complicated in the middle for you is your problem.

That's just an excuse to not take responsibility for your own thoughts and actions and place the blame on some genetic disorder. That's the problem with people.... If you suck and you know it, instead of dealing with your shit, blame it on DNA and take a pill for it. Maybe one day it will go away. Instead of doing the hard work of changing and bettering yourself as a person.

The only "cure" for depression is compassion. Stepping out of yourself and helping others/feeling good for others destroys the "shortcircuit" in one's mind that causes depression and other self-based maladies.

There's always the tried and true way of solving the issue permanently...
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Does that mean my alcoholism is not really a disease? :(

I thought I had some afflication that kept making me go to the beer store and walking out with these cases of Miller Genuine Draft.

Your DNA / Chemical make-up isn't forcing you to guzzle those bottles of Jack Daniel's. Again, personal responsibility for your own actions and thoughts. If you don't like what you do or who you are... change it and stop whining to everyone and looking for answers. The answer is simple... You suck. Change and be a better person, and stop making stupid decisions.

Now I am depressed and an alcoholic. Is there a pill for that?

Well, it's shaped like a pill...
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I don't have a restricted firearms license and all I have on hand is 12 gauge bird shot. I'll be back tomorrow posting with a nasty flesh wound.

Lol, what a good read. It's easy to spot the people in here who know what depression is.

Metaman, you are a masterful troll and for that, you win. In the meantime, imagine your family was just murdered. Now imagine feeling that sorrow and pain, only your family is fine.

Yeah, I didn't think you'd understand it, even when explained in a way that a child could comprehend. If you think that you can just "snap out of it", perhaps you shouldn't comment on something that is entirely alien to you. I don't completely grasp the economic repocussions of invading Iraq, so I don't comment on them. Because if I did, that would make me an idiot.

only depressed people create negative thoughts in their head that do not exist. ill save that for you and you can report back on your findings.

no it is easy to spot here who are children and who are adults. adults take ownership for their actions and thoughts and not put a label on them like "depression" when things arent going their way.

feeling sorrow and pain is a normal human function. that is EXACTLY what i am saying. anyone who takes that and puts a label on it such as depression either a) needs to get a life b) needs a bomb ass blowjob.

i find it extremely pathetic when a human being goes into the "nobody understands me" mode. that is for teenage girls. NOT grown adults.

Feeling sorrow and pain at the appropriate times is a normal human function. Feeling it randomly and without cause is depression. You clearly have never delt with any form of clinical depression, so you are doing nothing more than talking out of your ass.

That's all good and well, except I haven't been doing that. Once again, you're speaking out of your ass about something you have no education or knowledge about.

Just because you don't understand what MetaMan is talking about, doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's talking about. Did you ever stop yourself from whining for just a moment to think that maybe it's YOU that is being ignorant on this topic, and would rather wallow in misery than try to understand what people are telling you? Because facing the fact that you suck, isn't an easy task to take on. It takes a lot of work and energy, and as much as your depression keeps you down, you rise above and force yourself to do the work it requires to get out.

If you really want to stop being depressed, stop posting about it, go find good shit to do and when you start thinking like a whiney emo twat, force yourself to focus on something better. That's the only way. Otherwise, find a gun and save us the twat drama.

Go and read about how depression works before you say things like that, Mr. Al Capone. Except you won't, because you already think you know what depression is. Except you don't.

Without cause? Again, you are trying to blame the abyss for your emotions. YOU are the ONLY cause for your emotions. Your perspective, your paradigm... whatever you want to call it. The ONLY thing causing your depression is YOU. As soon as you realize that, you'll start finding ways to overcome it. Until then, you're just going to keep whining about it and trying to find external solutions to your internal problem. In which case, nobody and nothing can help you.

Excuse me? "clinical depression". who decides what "clinical depression" is? the doctors that are quick to write a prescription so they can pocket some coin?

hell anyone with a bad day can walk in and get labeled with clinical depression these days. keep telling yourself it is clinical. your babyness is a billion dollar industry.

the more people they convince that they have more problems compared to others is extra 0's in their bank account. never forget that.

go live in a straw hut in africa for a month. come back and report. and i bet you i just solved your depression. GET THIS NIGGA A PHD!

Doesn't really matter though, does it? Anyone I have seen on the pills just gets more depressed, sometimes suicidal, so the only option is to force it out of your head.

edit: or kill yourself, which shouldn't be an option

STOP that sounds like work. Dealing with my own internal problems to solve depression? that sounds insane.

Ok, you're officially an idiot.

So you think I should go read about depression, instead of finding something more important to do, so that I can understand your condition better? I understand your "condition", you are a twat and don't want to admit it to yourself.

I'm trying to give you some golden advice, as are a few others in this thread and you are CHOOSING to ignore the plain and simple fact that YOU are the only person that can help yourself. No pill, no external condition will help. Change the way you think. Change yourself to not suck. That's the ONLY way.

I can't help but agree with you. In the Western world, we have preconcieved ideas about what success and happiness is. I was born here, and have never been to Africa, so telling me about people in other situations isn't exactly relevant to the topic at hand. I've never met them, or been there, or experienced their lives first hand, so again, I just don't see how that's very relevant.

And on a good day, I would agree about thinking happy thoughts and doing shit about "it" so that I don't feel sad and unhappy. Except when you're depressed, it's not that easy to do. Is it possible? Perhaps, but I've never been able to manage it. Does that make me weak, or pathetic, as you say? Who knows. What is weak? What is pathetic? You said it yourself, we are nothing, sitting on a tiny floating rock. If this was the case, perhaps you wouldn't be so quick to judge and voice your opinion (an irrelevant one, since we're tiny and nothing, just sitting on a floating rock). Or maybe you're just trolling and trying to make people feel bad. Either way, I'm enjoying your posts :)

Success is measured by how quickly you pick yourself up after being knocked down and the ability to learn and grow from your mistakes.

See, now that's a valuable addition to this topic. I'm going to think about that today. :thumbsup

Goals, Direction, Determination, Passion, Relentlessness, Drive, Enthusiasm... I can go on and on. If you do not have these traits, this is the reason why you SUCK and the things you need to change and work on. They are the things you NEED to get out of depression. It's not EASY. It is HARD WORK. But, if you really want to get out of it... You DO the hard work. Depression is Easy.

Exactly.

Look up any list of the "happiest countries" in the world and many of the ones in the top 20 are pretty poor countries. Indeed, many of these countries' lists of top prescribed/bought prescription drugs don't have antidepressants/antianxiety medications. Why? Many of these countries' social support systems include extensive networks of friends and cultural values that emphasize getting along and being involved with others. I hate Karl Marx but I do have to agree with him on some parts of his ALIENATION theory. "Developed" countries force many into deal with the devil--give up part of your humanity (communal definitions of privacy/cooperation versus competition, etc etc)in exchange for material richess of First World living. I don't fully agree but there's some truth there.

this thread is depressing.

And to think I could have spent 100 bucks an hour to hear that from someone. Perhaps GFY isn't as moronic as it seems. I appologize for my earlier remarks, as you seem to have something to say. I'd be saying the same thing to Metaman if he wasn't so abrasive about it.

Thanks for the motivation, kind stranger.

I am no way trying to help you feel bad or others. but im not going to feel sorry for you and say its going to be ok. because you are the one choosing that it is not ok.

it took me a longtime to figure out. the main thing is YOU CONTROL YOUR MIND. you can control your thoughts and emotions. if something bugs you you can CHOOSE not to let it bug you. it is your mind.

you dont know how powerful this advice is. it sounds like bullshit but it is 100% true. we as humans are capable of EVERYTHING. it is 100% mindset. if you tell your mind you cant do it you are not going to be able to do it.

spend everyday understanding your own thoughts. i always look within for factors and no longer for external factors.

your mind is sooooo insanely powerful that it can convince you you cant do anything before you have even tried. always remember ANYTHING is possible. and none of it comes overnight, the journey while working hard at something is alot of times just as rewarding as the final goal. it is about baby steps that add up to 1 giant leep.

learn to control your emotions and get your mind in a place of peace. you find this by being able to look internally and not being afraid to deal with real pain.

stop looking for external factors and look within yourself. look at the things that make you depressed and look at the things that make you happy. go towards those things. you can choose to do something about it THIS SECOND. that is how powerful your mind is.

thinking your mind controls everything is childish. infantile wish fulfillment. not a wise and enlightened view at all. for new age retards.

This is so very, very true. Thanks for the motivational words, I suppose it's what I needed to hear.

we all know you are a retard so we dont expect you to have any mind control.

Good stuff Metaman. :)

PenisFace... I guarantee you will fail on occasion. Look at those failures as an opportunity to learn and grow and get back up and keep pushing forward. Eventually, you'll get the hang of "being happy". Once you get to this point, you'll start to become enlightened.

When you fail... Think "What can I learn from this?". Find SOMETHING valuable you can take with you from that moment. Essentially, you are taking something that negatively effected you and turning it into something useful and positive.

The other thing is to never think about something unless it's a positive stream of consciousness, or you have intent behind it.

"Think with intent" and have the "Attitute of Gratitude".

Be greatful for the things you do have. Tell someone why you appreciate them. Do something for someone else and expect nothing in return.

Afterall, isn't that what you want?

Doing for others is a sure-fire way to "feel good" about something. Not to mention you end up making good connections. Surround yourself with others of like-minds. If you have retarded friends that do nothing but party, play games, act a fool and cause drama.... Ditch them. Get rid of the weight and get better people around you.

i think we should start writing books.

i dont know why so many people are afraid to fail? when i fail i feel good in the fact i tried for it. through my failures is where i have learned the most.

Thanks to both of you dudes. I completely nullify anything I said about the two of you previously :)

I am afraid to fail because I see it as proof that I am no good, or that I am worthless. It sort of creates a loop of negative self thoughts that do nothing but make everything worse.

At the same time, this made me remember instances where I failed horribly, or royally fucked something up, but then came out better because of it.

:)

First Book Title "You Suck! ~ Deal with it!"

man failure is just a learning experience.

it is normal to be human and make mistakes or fail. i dont know how many times i have failed and now i take is as a learning experience.

when you think about it all real knowledge you have is basically done by failing.

when you first learned to ride a bike you would sway back and forth. fail until you got your balance. then riding your bike becomes easy.

failing is the only way to learn how to changed or improve something.

i am never afraid to fail now. because i dont view it as failing. failing in my book is if i wouldnt have tried in the first place.

you need to re learn the way you look at things honestly.

Dont think iv ever been depressed I just take life as it comes even when we lost everything ..sure I was pissed but i knew we would get back on our feet again even if it took a few years ..if something is bad I know it can only get better cause you control your own destiny in so many ways

A couple things here, my friend - and this is coming from someone who lived with a gorgeous model who also happened to be severely Bi-Polar:

1. Ignore those fuckers on here making fun or being snarky; chances are they're just saying these things to make themselves feel better and cannot see the irony. Fuck 'em.

2. Depression is absolutely a chemical reaction, and it sounds to me - your internet porn board "doctor" - like you're not fully Bi-Polar. You don't need those horrifying drugs you see advertised on TV (maybe they don't advertise them in Canada?). Drugs like Abilify: "Warning! May lose use of your legs...." Etc. Stay away from that prescribed shit.

3. Stay away from good ol' weeeeeed (I know, tough there in BC). Weed feeds depression, making it worse and worse. Unless you're the type who has to 'bottom out' before feeling better, then by all means smoke away (and remove any dangerous, life-threatening objects)

4. Sex will help - a little.

5. At least you're not:

FatFoo
SeeandSee
MetaMan
The Demon
etc
etc
etc (and Mister Peabody)

Good luck. Oh - and watch a Marx Brothers film and try NOT to laugh. :)

Felling any better PenisFace? :thumbsup:thumbsup

Best of luck dude!

Believe it or not, I was actually on anti-anxiety medication for about 10 years. It's partially why I'm self employed, I could barely leave the house without getting anxious (Ugh!). Interestingly enough, I decided one day to see how "I" had changed in ten years, since I was never really myself, I had no highs or no lows on the medication I was taking. I was pretty much a zombie (just a self emplyed zombie!).

I weened myself off the medication I was taking, and had some withdrawl symptoms at first (depression, exhaustion, sleeping 15+ hours a day). A week later, I suddenly felt normal. And then I joined a car club, and started going out all the time. Something that I wasn't able to do while I was taking my anti-anxiety medication. What the hell is up with that? The only downside to not being a zombie anymore is that I get emotional highs and lows again, perhaps I'm not used to them, because I didn't have them for 10+ years.

I definitely don't smoke week or drink alchy. I've been drunk a few times, and the day after made me wonder why, lol.

Interestingly, yeah! The internet once again proves its merit!

If you really want to stop being depressed, stop posting about it, go find good shit to do and when you start thinking like a whiney emo twat, force yourself to focus on something better. That's the only way. Otherwise, find a gun and save us the twat drama.[/QUOTE]


hes trying to solve it by posting about it. If it was easy to end his depression, trust me, he wouldnt waste his time.

People naturally want to be happy, there is no doubt about that. People would not choose depression over happiness, except in rare circumstances.

And if there isnt a chemical imbalance explanation for some forms of depression, then explain why someone can take cynanide (a chemical) and die instantly, or smoke crack, (release dopamine), and get talkative? Take ecstacy (release all serotonin) and get happy and sociable

Those dont illustrate that chemicals have an instant impact on mood and life itself?

I guarantee of penisman, or whatever his name is took an ECSTACY pill, he would not feel depressed, he seems to me, to have a serotonin imbalance.

there is really no good drugs for it though.

IT's really hard to say until they come up with better brain imaging, who is right, the people who say its our own thoughts, or chemical imbalance, or both.

They are going to have brain imaging and stuff available for this stuff this decade and do at some hospitals.

Sweet! :pimp

Sounds like you just need to find another club [car or other interest based] dude.

I really, really hope it's a mix of the two. And honestly, after reading some of the replies here, I believe it is. Some motivating things were said by quite a few people, and it definitely made me perk up. I'd hope that it's because our brains are as powerful as Metaman said they are :)

I couldn't get myself to buckle down and work for the last few days, and now that I've read some of the replies in this thread, I'm sitting here working :thumbsup

edit: Thanks to everyone who was compassionate about depression, and to those who said "deal with it". I'm going to bookmark this thread and come back to it if I start feeling like shit again.

You'd be better off talking to a real doctor than listening to any of the nonsense in this thread. However, if you're already "feeling better" then you weren't depressed to begin with, you were just having a shitty day.

lol now you are playing "you a poser depressed person" game eh? :1orglaugh

Glad you find this topic humorous Meta. When you meet with real depression, try not to off yourself. Just "cheer up", it'll all get better.