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MetaMan 07-31-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace (Post 17378303)
I can't help but agree with you. In the Western world, we have preconcieved ideas about what success and happiness is. I was born here, and have never been to Africa, so telling me about people in other situations isn't exactly relevant to the topic at hand. I've never met them, or been there, or experienced their lives first hand, so again, I just don't see how that's very relevant.

And on a good day, I would agree about thinking happy thoughts and doing shit about "it" so that I don't feel sad and unhappy. Except when you're depressed, it's not that easy to do. Is it possible? Perhaps, but I've never been able to manage it. Does that make me weak, or pathetic, as you say? Who knows. What is weak? What is pathetic? You said it yourself, we are nothing, sitting on a tiny floating rock. If this was the case, perhaps you wouldn't be so quick to judge and voice your opinion (an irrelevant one, since we're tiny and nothing, just sitting on a floating rock). Or maybe you're just trolling and trying to make people feel bad. Either way, I'm enjoying your posts :)

I am no way trying to help you feel bad or others. but im not going to feel sorry for you and say its going to be ok. because you are the one choosing that it is not ok.

it took me a longtime to figure out. the main thing is YOU CONTROL YOUR MIND. you can control your thoughts and emotions. if something bugs you you can CHOOSE not to let it bug you. it is your mind.

you dont know how powerful this advice is. it sounds like bullshit but it is 100% true. we as humans are capable of EVERYTHING. it is 100% mindset. if you tell your mind you cant do it you are not going to be able to do it.

spend everyday understanding your own thoughts. i always look within for factors and no longer for external factors.

your mind is sooooo insanely powerful that it can convince you you cant do anything before you have even tried. always remember ANYTHING is possible. and none of it comes overnight, the journey while working hard at something is alot of times just as rewarding as the final goal. it is about baby steps that add up to 1 giant leep.

learn to control your emotions and get your mind in a place of peace. you find this by being able to look internally and not being afraid to deal with real pain.

stop looking for external factors and look within yourself. look at the things that make you depressed and look at the things that make you happy. go towards those things. you can choose to do something about it THIS SECOND. that is how powerful your mind is.

Agent 488 07-31-2010 04:11 PM

thinking your mind controls everything is childish. infantile wish fulfillment. not a wise and enlightened view at all. for new age retards.

PenisFace 07-31-2010 04:12 PM

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your mind is sooooo insanely powerful that it can convince you you cant do anything before you have even tried.
This is so very, very true. Thanks for the motivational words, I suppose it's what I needed to hear.

MetaMan 07-31-2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17378336)
thinking your mind controls everything is childish. infantile wish fulfillment. not a wise and enlightened view at all. for new age retards.

we all know you are a retard so we dont expect you to have any mind control.

AlCapone 07-31-2010 04:20 PM

Good stuff Metaman. :)

PenisFace... I guarantee you will fail on occasion. Look at those failures as an opportunity to learn and grow and get back up and keep pushing forward. Eventually, you'll get the hang of "being happy". Once you get to this point, you'll start to become enlightened.

When you fail... Think "What can I learn from this?". Find SOMETHING valuable you can take with you from that moment. Essentially, you are taking something that negatively effected you and turning it into something useful and positive.

The other thing is to never think about something unless it's a positive stream of consciousness, or you have intent behind it.

"Think with intent" and have the "Attitute of Gratitude".

Be greatful for the things you do have. Tell someone why you appreciate them. Do something for someone else and expect nothing in return.

Afterall, isn't that what you want?

Doing for others is a sure-fire way to "feel good" about something. Not to mention you end up making good connections. Surround yourself with others of like-minds. If you have retarded friends that do nothing but party, play games, act a fool and cause drama.... Ditch them. Get rid of the weight and get better people around you.

MetaMan 07-31-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AlCapone (Post 17378355)
Good stuff Metaman. :)

PenisFace... I guarantee you will fail on occasion. Look at those failures as an opportunity to learn and grow and get back up and keep pushing forward. Eventually, you'll get the hang of "being happy". Once you get to this point, you'll start to become enlightened.

When you fail... Think "What can I learn from this?". Find SOMETHING valuable you can take with you from that moment. Essentially, you are taking something that negatively effected you and turning it into something useful and positive.

The other thing is to never think about something unless it's a positive stream of consciousness, or you have intent behind it.

"Think with intent" and have the "Attitute of Gratitude".

Be greatful for the things you do have. Tell someone why you appreciate them. Do something for someone else and expect nothing in return.

Afterall, isn't that what you want?

Doing for others is a sure-fire way to "feel good" about something. Not to mention you end up making good connections. Surround yourself with others of like-minds. If you have retarded friends that do nothing but party, play games, act a fool and cause drama.... Ditch them. Get rid of the weight and get better people around you.

i think we should start writing books.

i dont know why so many people are afraid to fail? when i fail i feel good in the fact i tried for it. through my failures is where i have learned the most.

PenisFace 07-31-2010 04:31 PM

Thanks to both of you dudes. I completely nullify anything I said about the two of you previously :)

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i dont know why so many people are afraid to fail? when i fail i feel good in the fact i tried for it. through my failures is where i have learned the most.
I am afraid to fail because I see it as proof that I am no good, or that I am worthless. It sort of creates a loop of negative self thoughts that do nothing but make everything worse.

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When you fail... Think "What can I learn from this?". Find SOMETHING valuable you can take with you from that moment. Essentially, you are taking something that negatively effected you and turning it into something useful and positive.
At the same time, this made me remember instances where I failed horribly, or royally fucked something up, but then came out better because of it.

:)

AlCapone 07-31-2010 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17378366)
i think we should start writing books.

i dont know why so many people are afraid to fail? when i fail i feel good in the fact i tried for it. through my failures is where i have learned the most.

First Book Title "You Suck! ~ Deal with it!"

MetaMan 07-31-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace (Post 17378378)
Thanks to both of you dudes. I completely nullify anything I said about the two of you previously :)

I am afraid to fail because I see it as proof that I am no good, or that I am worthless. It sort of creates a loop of negative self thoughts that do nothing but make everything worse.

At the same time, this made me remember instances where I failed horribly, or royally fucked something up, but then came out better because of it.

:)

man failure is just a learning experience.

it is normal to be human and make mistakes or fail. i dont know how many times i have failed and now i take is as a learning experience.

when you think about it all real knowledge you have is basically done by failing.

when you first learned to ride a bike you would sway back and forth. fail until you got your balance. then riding your bike becomes easy.

failing is the only way to learn how to changed or improve something.

i am never afraid to fail now. because i dont view it as failing. failing in my book is if i wouldnt have tried in the first place.

you need to re learn the way you look at things honestly.

halfpint 07-31-2010 04:44 PM

Dont think iv ever been depressed I just take life as it comes even when we lost everything ..sure I was pissed but i knew we would get back on our feet again even if it took a few years ..if something is bad I know it can only get better cause you control your own destiny in so many ways

The Porn Nerd 07-31-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace (Post 17378378)
Thanks to both of you dudes. I completely nullify anything I said about the two of you previously :)



I am afraid to fail because I see it as proof that I am no good, or that I am worthless. It sort of creates a loop of negative self thoughts that do nothing but make everything worse.



At the same time, this made me remember instances where I failed horribly, or royally fucked something up, but then came out better because of it.

:)

A couple things here, my friend - and this is coming from someone who lived with a gorgeous model who also happened to be severely Bi-Polar:

1. Ignore those fuckers on here making fun or being snarky; chances are they're just saying these things to make themselves feel better and cannot see the irony. Fuck 'em.

2. Depression is absolutely a chemical reaction, and it sounds to me - your internet porn board "doctor" - like you're not fully Bi-Polar. You don't need those horrifying drugs you see advertised on TV (maybe they don't advertise them in Canada?). Drugs like Abilify: "Warning! May lose use of your legs...." Etc. Stay away from that prescribed shit.

3. Stay away from good ol' weeeeeed (I know, tough there in BC). Weed feeds depression, making it worse and worse. Unless you're the type who has to 'bottom out' before feeling better, then by all means smoke away (and remove any dangerous, life-threatening objects)

4. Sex will help - a little.

5. At least you're not:

FatFoo
SeeandSee
MetaMan
The Demon
etc
etc
etc (and Mister Peabody)

Good luck. Oh - and watch a Marx Brothers film and try NOT to laugh. :)

alias 07-31-2010 04:51 PM

Felling any better PenisFace? :thumbsup:thumbsup

Best of luck dude!

PenisFace 07-31-2010 04:59 PM

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2. Depression is absolutely a chemical reaction, and it sounds to me - your internet porn board "doctor" - like you're not fully Bi-Polar. You don't need those horrifying drugs you see advertised on TV (maybe they don't advertise them in Canada?). Drugs like Abilify: "Warning! May lose use of your legs...." Etc. Stay away from that prescribed shit.
Believe it or not, I was actually on anti-anxiety medication for about 10 years. It's partially why I'm self employed, I could barely leave the house without getting anxious (Ugh!). Interestingly enough, I decided one day to see how "I" had changed in ten years, since I was never really myself, I had no highs or no lows on the medication I was taking. I was pretty much a zombie (just a self emplyed zombie!).

I weened myself off the medication I was taking, and had some withdrawl symptoms at first (depression, exhaustion, sleeping 15+ hours a day). A week later, I suddenly felt normal. And then I joined a car club, and started going out all the time. Something that I wasn't able to do while I was taking my anti-anxiety medication. What the hell is up with that? The only downside to not being a zombie anymore is that I get emotional highs and lows again, perhaps I'm not used to them, because I didn't have them for 10+ years.

I definitely don't smoke week or drink alchy. I've been drunk a few times, and the day after made me wonder why, lol.

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Felling any better PenisFace?
Interestingly, yeah! The internet once again proves its merit!

joshuawk 07-31-2010 05:00 PM

If you really want to stop being depressed, stop posting about it, go find good shit to do and when you start thinking like a whiney emo twat, force yourself to focus on something better. That's the only way. Otherwise, find a gun and save us the twat drama.[/QUOTE]


hes trying to solve it by posting about it. If it was easy to end his depression, trust me, he wouldnt waste his time.

People naturally want to be happy, there is no doubt about that. People would not choose depression over happiness, except in rare circumstances.

And if there isnt a chemical imbalance explanation for some forms of depression, then explain why someone can take cynanide (a chemical) and die instantly, or smoke crack, (release dopamine), and get talkative? Take ecstacy (release all serotonin) and get happy and sociable

Those dont illustrate that chemicals have an instant impact on mood and life itself?

I guarantee of penisman, or whatever his name is took an ECSTACY pill, he would not feel depressed, he seems to me, to have a serotonin imbalance.

there is really no good drugs for it though.

IT's really hard to say until they come up with better brain imaging, who is right, the people who say its our own thoughts, or chemical imbalance, or both.

They are going to have brain imaging and stuff available for this stuff this decade and do at some hospitals.

alias 07-31-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace (Post 17378437)
. ..
Interestingly, yeah! The internet once again proves its merit!

Sweet! :pimp

alias 07-31-2010 05:06 PM

Sounds like you just need to find another club [car or other interest based] dude.

PenisFace 07-31-2010 05:07 PM

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IT's really hard to say until they come up with better brain imaging, who is right, the people who say its our own thoughts, or chemical imbalance, or both.
I really, really hope it's a mix of the two. And honestly, after reading some of the replies here, I believe it is. Some motivating things were said by quite a few people, and it definitely made me perk up. I'd hope that it's because our brains are as powerful as Metaman said they are :)

I couldn't get myself to buckle down and work for the last few days, and now that I've read some of the replies in this thread, I'm sitting here working :thumbsup

edit: Thanks to everyone who was compassionate about depression, and to those who said "deal with it". I'm going to bookmark this thread and come back to it if I start feeling like shit again.

Amputate Your Head 07-31-2010 05:11 PM

You'd be better off talking to a real doctor than listening to any of the nonsense in this thread. However, if you're already "feeling better" then you weren't depressed to begin with, you were just having a shitty day.

MetaMan 07-31-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17378469)
You'd be better off talking to a real doctor than listening to any of the nonsense in this thread. However, if you're already "feeling better" then you weren't depressed to begin with, you were just having a shitty day.

lol now you are playing "you a poser depressed person" game eh? :1orglaugh

Amputate Your Head 07-31-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17378473)
lol now you are playing "you a poser depressed person" game eh? :1orglaugh

Glad you find this topic humorous Meta. When you meet with real depression, try not to off yourself. Just "cheer up", it'll all get better.

alias 07-31-2010 05:16 PM

Ever had a gun to your head and played with the trigger? Don't do it kids.

PenisFace 07-31-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17378474)
Glad you find this topic humorous Meta. When you meet with real depression, try not to off yourself. Just "cheer up", it'll all get better.

Maybe I was depressed, or maybe I've just been having a shitty last week or so. Maybe I was depressed, but nowhere near as much as I thought? Honestly, I can't tell you for sure. Perhaps seeing some positive and rational things being said was enough to get me over the hump to where I could tell myself that these people were right.

You were one of those positive and rational people, so thank you :)

Amputate Your Head 07-31-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AlCapone (Post 17378316)
Goals, Direction, Determination, Passion, Relentlessness, Drive, Enthusiasm... They are the things you NEED to get out of depression.

None of these things, nor money, nor the lack of money have anything to do with depression. Do you think there are no wealthy people with depression? Most wealthy people have all of those things you mentioned and more, and some still live with depression. I had everything I ever wanted. Big, beautiful house in the wealthy section of south Maui.... enough money that I didn't need to worry about it.... youth, health, boat cruises, fancy dinners, etc.... and I still damn near put a 9mm full metal jacket hollow-point through my brain.

There's a reason I didn't post here for a few years. It took that long to get over that shit. "Cheer up" doesn't work. "It's all in your mind" doesn't work. "Get over it" doesn't work.

CaptainHowdy 07-31-2010 05:23 PM

Bottom line is: if you can post about it you are not really depressed... Goodnight!

alias 07-31-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17378488)
None of these things, nor money, nor the lack of money have anything to do with depression. Do you think there are no wealthy people with depression? Most wealthy people have all of those things you mentioned and more, and some still live with depression. I had everything I ever wanted. Big, beautiful house in the wealthy section of south Maui.... enough money that I didn't need to worry about it.... youth, health, boat cruises, fancy dinners, etc.... and I still damn near put a 9mm full metal jacket hollow-point through my brain.

Close calls. :)

MetaMan 07-31-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17378474)
Glad you find this topic humorous Meta. When you meet with real depression, try not to off yourself. Just "cheer up", it'll all get better.

i do find it humorous when grown adults act like their problems are so much worse than others. so much so they will spiral into this fantasy of depression.

sorry i have been depressed, didnt off myself. i started a new business, got some pussy and hit the gym.

now i look back like "wtf was i thinking what a waste of time". i wasted prob a good year with bullshit before i snapped out of it. now i am happy as ever and will continue to be. it just showed me i am willing to work to solve my problems and not pop pills or be afraid of facing what really makes me down.

life is too short to be depressed.

Amputate Your Head 07-31-2010 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17378500)
i do find it humorous when grown adults act like their problems are so much worse than others. so much so they will spiral into this fantasy of depression.

sorry i have been depressed, didnt off myself. i started a new business, got some pussy and hit the gym.

now i look back like "wtf was i thinking what a waste of time". i wasted prob a good year with bullshit before i snapped out of it. now i am happy as ever and will continue to be. it just showed me i am willing to work to solve my problems and not pop pills or be afraid of facing what really makes me down.

life is too short to be depressed.

Glad it worked out for you. Unfortunately, not everyone is so lucky. Not everyone survives depression, and not everyone can just shake it off by going to the gym and hittin' some pussy. You are a man among men.

Agent 488 07-31-2010 05:30 PM

what 5 dollar submissions said was the only piece of wisdom in this thread. the rest was absolute garbage, but to be expected.

PenisFace 07-31-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17378508)
what 5 dollar submissions said was the only piece of wisdom in this thread. the rest was absolute garbage, but to be expected.

Hey, it made me feel better :(

MetaMan 07-31-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace (Post 17378512)
Hey, it made me feel better :(

these guys dont want you to feel better. they want you to continue to wallow in sorrow and give you the "it's gonna be ok bro" speech.

ottopottomouse 08-01-2010 03:03 AM

Reading it all through it sounds more like you had a bad day and just needed a few people to talk to.

Sabby 08-01-2010 10:31 AM

Depression is an addiction to feeling bad.

Break the cycle. Give yourself a big culture shock.


Sabby:)

ethanol 08-06-2010 06:31 PM

everything gets depressed here and there. part of the human condition

JaneB 08-06-2010 09:18 PM

Everyone feels sad from time to time. It is not normal when you start to feel sad all the time and you stop doing things that you used to do. If it is a real problem, visit your doctor. Not everyone has to take drugs to feel better.


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