I agree, I think adobe programs run better on Mac because their usually alot more powerful computers, adobe programs are huge programs and take alot of RAM to run them, which is why i hate using them on windows, unless i have a really good pc with 4 gigs of Ram and a good processor

I have two nearly identical machines (hardware wise)... Very similar clock speed, both quad cores, both with 8GB RAM, both using SSD for PS cache and os, my Windows machine has a better graphics card but that's about it...

I can open the same file on both machines in the same version of Photoshop and perform the same large operation on both machines. Windows will finish MUCH faster.

Adobe does NOT write the best of code for OS X... even Apple will tell you that.

I'm not sure why you had all the crashes but something was definitely wrong with your machine...

One day when I'm not so pressed for time I'd love to benchmark all the main operations in PS and post comparisons :)

I don't use the laptop keyboard or the laptop screen. I use an Apple standalone keyboard and the Wacom Cintiq (attached to the articulating arm) as a monitor as well as the interactive part of it for dev. My laptop stays in the closed position all the time off to the side out of the way. If I wanna go out, I pull out the cables on one side (USBs, FW, ethernet, sound, etc... ) toss it in a backpack and go. Secure as it gets.

Graphics:

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M (laptop screen)
Type: GPU
Bus: PCI
VRAM (Total): 256 MB

NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT (Cintiq)
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB

Displays:
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected (laptop cover closed, 1920x1200 native res.)
Cintiq21UX:
Resolution: 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported

I believe it's not a problem of Adobe or Windows it's a problem of person who runs it. For example, I have no problems with Adobe products on both operating systems: Windows (2000, XP, 7) and Mac OS X.

However I remember one issue with Mac OS X version of Adobe Photoshop. It was constantly crashing because of some improper TTF font. It (the font) was ok with Windows version of Adobe Photoshop, but Mac OS X version wasn't able to work with it so I had to remove that font.

Oops. What do you mean???

Yeah, I had to shitcan a bunch of windows TTF fonts when I switched. But that's not a Mac "problem" as much as it's working the way it's supposed to. TTF is a shit windows font format, and there are very little, if any "rules" about creating them. Most of the fonts you can download for free at the font sites are corrupt, poorly made, and useless. Getting rid of them is a good thing.

So your notebook is not portable anymore when all those devices are connected. Why don't you use a normal desktop computer then?

Graphics:

These are also outdated already. Also, even if they were new, you have to know that XXXXM is much slower than XXXX. I mean that 9600M GT is far not the same as the old good 9600 GT. Notebook components are usually weaker than desktop ones (you sacrifice productivity to save power, decrease heating and reduce size). This is one more point for using desktops for regular work at the regular workplace (course not in the bed or while you traveling). :2 cents:

You are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo right on this one and the arrogance of MAC users is incredible!

MAC users think they are safe. The bad guys have already done test runs and The Big Mac Attack will hapen soon.

Sally.

i have a brand new macbook pro <3

:thumbsup

Those 'I'm a Mac, I'm a PC' commercials made people think that Macs are somehow not 'personal computers'. heheh

WOW! This is the exact advise given to me a long long time ago. :thumbsup



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Why isn't it portable? It takes me 3 seconds to disconnect and toss it in a bag. That's not portable?

if it crashes daily on your pc then something's wrong with it or you're a moron.... I had alot of pc's in the last 10 years, no issues other then some faulty hard drives, I even have old ahtlon amd running strong 24/7 for god knows how many years.... I used my buddies brand new mac, and it felt like it's made for grandmas and girls with all this tiny/cute/curvy design, macs are for people who are clueless about computers and how to operate them imo

Yeah.... lol

I built custom PCs for 15 years.

I am a PC guy, and I agree with you.


If hackers/virus writers are targeting Windows, may be it tells that PC (Windows basically) is more popular?

Same applies to the available softwares. There are shit load of more developers for Windows than any other OS, including X.

I highly doubt that if your abode crashed on your pc machine daily...

But it even better if you don't disconnect anything. If you want to move, you just leave the desktop as is, then pick up your notebook to go :)

And why is that a good thing again?

There is nothing I can't do on a Mac that I used to do on Windows. Not one thing. The 3rd party software available today is much more stable & reliable than anything in Windows.

Some portion of it did, whether it was PS or Illustrator or DW.... it was always something.

For security reasons I choose not to leave that particular laptop unattended anywhere, ever. Everything else in here is bolted down.

If you aren't visiting sites that might have an auto-installer, downloading shit you shouldn't (or from places you don't trust), or being stupid in your email... There's no reason you should ever get any viruses / malware.

2cents

I hate these pc vs mac threads, use what works best for you at the end of the day is all :2 cents:

I switched to mac over 2 years ago now and will never go back to pc.
For me Adobe runs waaaay faster on my mac than on my pc of similar power.
Just my experience, might not be the same for other people who knows...

yes. this...

What I like best about macs is that you can push the fuck out of them. Open more apps, then more, then more. The thing never falls over.
When I try this on my pc, it slows down, more, and more, then crashes. Reboot, cry, bash desk in frustration. Etc.

Have you visited some of the porn sites out there? All it takes is ONE website to fuck you. It has nothing to do with being stupid. A single bad malware popup or viewing one fucked up email can install that crap on your systems and bring Windows to it's knees. Don't be stupid, you already know this.

Gimp + *nix ftw!

i hear Lynx is the safest internet browser, runs on most OS'es
http://lynx.browser.org/ :thumbsup :winkwink:

I don't surf porn or sites that I have never heard of, or browse gallery lists. I also don't view email in HTML view or open email from anyone I don't recognize or am expecting an email from, or download pirated software. I just work with the tools I've been using for ages. Outside of working, I sleep, relax and eat pussy.

http://www.truecrypt.org/ :pimp

Yeah, I used to use TrueCrypt until '08. No point encrypting your system if the whole system goes missing though. The best security is physical security. And no one's taking shit as long as it's with me. :)

PC all the way!

Mac hardware is different than PC hardware.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_CqtZ6YfaifQ/SW...asfailboot.jpg

What exactly part of is different there? Chipset, CPU, RAM, something else?

mac + parallel with windows = almost pc ;)

The quality of the components and the processes used to merge them. I've had top-of-the-line PCs and top-of-the-line Macs. The Macs are still running. The PCs are long gone sitting in a landfill. That means something. PCs might be a little cheaper up front, but how many do you need to buy to last as long as one Mac?

It's the kernels, you retard.

How long have you had your mac?

The pc I'm typing on I've had for four years now, 0 issues. The PC before this one, was about 5 years.

I have one MBP in the kitchen from '07 still running like new. My iMac is from '07. My studio MBP is from '09. The longest I ever had a PC run (before either complete failure or so much degraded that it was useless) was 2 years.

TBH, sounds more like a user issue or just plain bad luck. Ive been working from home for years and have had 0 problems. I don't even turn my PC off at night, I leave several threads running.

Then I must have had bad luck between 1993 and 2007 (my Windows Era), because as soon as I switched, all my computer problems went away. Every one of them.

Must be so. Guess it's a good thing I didn't have you build any PCs for me. :)

The custom builds were the most reliable of all, ironically. It was the shelf systems that always failed gloriously. Dell, HP, Compaq, Gateway, etc.... all failed. The custom builds just died a slow death from computer age.