May be you don't know how to maintain your box? Just a thought.

Yeah, that's what I thought too. That's why I ran all the virus scanners and registry fixers and system defraggers and PC optimizers and all that shit. I swear I tried every one that exists. The shit was still fucked. Maybe it was me. I don't know. But I do know that all that trouble disappeared as soon as I turned on a Mac and put the PC where it belongs.... (trashcan).

I'm talking about digital effects. Creatures, flames, smoke, digital stunt doubles, compositing, particle effcts, etc.

I know Macs dominate editing because of Final Cut -- I've actually never worked at a place that didn't use a Mac for editing, whether it was the Media100 a few years back, or FC, which has basically shut Avid out of the market.

Non-intel Macs with scsi adapters..ahh those were the days!

I've been running Kubuntu on the laptops I've used as primary machines for a few years, as well as Ubuntu netbook remix on my Dell mini. I have a WinXP box with dual screen in my office I rarely use because I'm too lazy to switch to anything else on it. I also only do development work and no graphic creation for websites; so have only needed to use GIMP to chop stuff if necessary.

With that, I recently wiped my current laptop of a 32-bit Kubuntu OS to the 64-bit because I upgraded my RAM. We all know how shitty it is to start from scratch, but I must say this (K)Ubuntu route was pretty smooth. To get my system to where I had it under the previous OS version was:

or use the update manager. Obviously, I had to configure local web server, and a bunch of other settings most people would never need to tweak, but from a basic install from scratch to getting back up and ready, I was pretty pleased.

Unfortunately, I need to test websites in IE browsers (pray to gawd they work in mac browsers, even though Safari for Windows doesn't perform the same as Safari on Mac). I just needed to install Virtual Box, which is free, install a Windows OS on it, copy that virtual machine three times, and for each iteration, I have IE6, IE7 and IE8 to test on (Anyone know how to properly run all three versions of Internet Explorer on one Windows OS install?).

Anyway... I'm not running video editing software, designing graphics, playing games, or anything special other than having a LAMP stack on my local box which seems to port well when I upload a website to a remote web server. The OS and software is all free, and Google usually can find community-driven help if an issue arises.

Regarding Mac computers - I just dislike them. I've had to test on some Macbooks and though it would take some amount of time figuring stuff out and getting used to, I just don't like them. Everyone I seem to work with has a Mac, and they all have crashes, issues, have to go to the "Apple Store", whatever. Anyone saying a Mac is just fool proof and never crashes is either full of shit or just uses their computer to play solitaire.

Like a bunch of others have said, it's more of an OS issue and software issue than hardware, since hardware is becomes a moot point at some level.

There's my dumbshit $.02.

Edit**: Obligatory Bash quote: http://bash.org/?741630

adobe is pretty buggy softeware

same here

file sizes have been growing so much every camera upgrade that I can't run actions or edit on a 3 year old machine. when I started shooting digital in 2001 the files were 600kb now they are 5mg.. then I had to dump at machine so I could edit HDV. so I guess I really don't need a box to last over 2 years....

i love my pc even if it is slowly as an old lady :)

Oh. That says a lot. NEVER run this sort of application if you don't want to break your operating system. Sorry, but it really seems you just can't handle your OS in the right condition. That's why you had problems with it. :2 cents:

Personally I can handle both Windows and Mac OS X. I know how they work, and I know how to fix their registries manually (never use any brainless optimizers for that).

I've used fedora and ubuntu, but never experimented with kubuntu, whats the difference?

it depends, for personal use, pc, but mac is better to work

KDE instead of Gnome.

See, but that's my problem with Windows.... you shouldn't have to fix it. Why can't it simply function like it's supposed to? OS X does. You mean to tell me that Microsoft either intentionally makes their OS full of problems because they want tinkerers to have something to do in their spare time, or they are incapable, even with all their money, of building an OS that functions without breaking in just about every way.

the only brainless "optimizer" that is any good is CCleaner - just removes shit that is not being used from uninstalled progies, doesn't "optimize" or "tweak" anything in there. also cleans array of selected temp folders. excellent maintenance tool

why a car cant run for long without getting fucked up without maintenance, tuneups, oil checks, filter replacements and so on? do you have any "Mac" type of car that you can recommend that can go without maintenance? and the one that can't break when i crush it against the wall for instance;)

No it doesn't. Initially Mac OS X is tuned up for an average user. So there are still lots of things to alter in the Mac OS X registry. You just have to know the operating system and what exactly you want from it. Big part of Windows users are more technically educated ones so first of all they tune up the registry. Advanced Mac OS X users do the same, but they are in minority of those "average OS X" users :winkwink:

P.S. A quote from my dictionary. Average Mac OS X user = Paris Hilton. :)

Some cars are better than others. Just like computers. Buy a piece of shit, it will break down more. I bought a $46k vehicle, it has never broken down once in nearly 6 years. I got what I paid for. You validated my point. :)

Yeah, my Mac systems are fully tweaked and customized throughout... still no problems. :)

the point would be valid if you didn't have to maintain your car with regular check ups and it didn't break of careless driving;)

This seriously is a totally worthless thread. Anyone who has ever owned a Windows based PC can not honestly come in here and tell me that they didn't have stability issues, virus/malware issues compatibility issues, Hardware Interrupt issues etc.

I've gone around and around about this for years, and even on other threads here. I'm an MCSE. I was the Network Admin for a fortune 500 company, one of the largest park systems in the US and have designed and supported WANs for everything from Banks to Police stations.

Windows is a piece of fluffy crap. There is only one thing to really say about the people claiming that os x is for people that don't know computers... OS X is a Unix certified OS. Unix... Now I know many of you windows people might not know what that even is.

Try building up a PC to hardcore anything. Adding high end video cards, sound cards, dedicated encoding cards etc, is all a pain in the ass. IF you can ever get the machine to run correctly, god forbid you make one hardware change. When you not fucking around trying to get all the hardware working then your fucking around cleaning your computer from all the crap out there trying to destroy it.

I finally had enough about 5 years ago and went out and picked up my first MB Pro. I have not looked back. All my macs are rock solid, in fact right now, on that 5 year old mac pro, I'm batch encoding H.264 video from DV raws, running 2 monitors, have 15 browser windows open both safari and firefox. am running adobe cs 4 doing some picture editing. Adimum and skype, a half dozen other programs and it rock solid. The machine stays one and has for the last 5 years, chunking away.. I've had a system cooling fan fail recently, but it's a 25 buck fix. Other than that... peaches. For ROI nothing, and I mean NOTHING has even come close to what the macs have provided. Not only in reliability of the hardware but for the countless hours I have saved not fighting with the damn computer everyday.

You Windows fanboys are really kidding yourselves and look retard to those of us that have a clue. Go back to beating up newbies on your Xboxs....

I do regular checkups and maintenance on my Macs too. I just don't have to do it for 6 hours a day like with Windows. :)

I think I love you. :)

for some "magical" reason i'm at peace with Win OS which I use 12-15hr each and single day

but i do recommend Macs to people who have to ask which OS to use.. so they won't have problems like AMP, no pun AMP

i don't know what you're talking about :) windows don't give me headaches and don't take much of my time either :)

How exactly did you tweak it?

Good for you. Then keep using it. I could really give 2 shits if you or anyone else "switches" But coming in and telling someone a dung pile of lies about something you know nothing about and forming those lies from the also uneducated opinions of others is retarded.

If you had a clue about how OS X actually works, and I'm not talking about the eye candy... Then you wouldn't be in a thread like this making the classic winboy comments.

I started with all this over 30 years ago... I've been around the block a few times. Take it for what its worth.

where do you see me telling pie of lies? i talk from my own expirience about particular OS and EVEN recommend other route for people who don't know better. wtf is your issue?

Was doing it since 1994. Furthermore, I'm using a high end computer assembled by myself. Had not problems with building it. Those old times of IRQ conflicts are so 90s, because now every piece as plug'n'play feature. You must have IQ=0 to be unable to assemble a custom high end computer in 21th century.

BTW, my custom computer runs both Windows 7 and Mac OS X Snow Leopard whitouts any problem. So I don't understand what your post was about... :disgust

It was a generalization much like the ones I see the winboys constantly spewing. You should be use to that.

jesus, just use what you like, i don't understand the endless debate that comes up about once a week on gfy. it's true though, the windows fan bois are worse than the mac guys.

Same as any other system.... you know, fucking with the internal system settings until it works and flows the way you want it to, remapping keyboard functions, app functions, backup schemes, graphical tweaks, networking, etc... there's nothing I can add to it physically, it's already top of the line.

Something tells me you are not sincere. You said you know how Mac OS X which as Free BSD-based core works. Ok, then tell me please where the OS X analog of Windows registry is located? But try to do this without googling a whole day :winkwink:

Wow, "94" Well here's a cookie for you.

ok heres my generalization.. half of certified people don't know shit about their own subjects went to 2-3month courses and then scream they know everything there is to know about stuff they have no clue about. enjoy your brainless mac os it suits you well ))

Do you know where they are located? Look at my question to Gerco above/ Dare to answer it? :)

P.S. As I said already I have no problems with both Windows and Mac OS X that run on my custom-made desktop personal computer (PC).

PC all the way :)

In 80s I had some Russian 8080-based 8bit computer. After that I was leaning Z80 assembly programming on ZX-Spectrum, till I have assembled my first IBM-compatible PC in 1994.

BTW, so what about my question, professor? You are googling too long :1orglaugh

LOL!

Seriously? I could give a shit. One of the nice things about the OS is I DON'T have to be some sort of super geek to use it. Why would I have any interest in know that information. But if you feel that that's some magical nugget of goodness please do share.

No, I can instead focus on what matters, which is using the tools to make me money and not worrying about what the fucks going to lockup or crash next.

Like I said... If your content with your system then kudos to you. You have to be in the 1% of windows users that seem to have found some magical unicorn that granted you freedom from the BSD. But, don't coming in here trying to make it out to be the norm.

Yeah, I know where most stuff is. App graphics and other app relevant materials are contained in packages within the app. MacPilot (and some others) collects most other functions in a single interface to tweak everything else easily. System Library, System System, User Library, etc... it's not complicated. That's the point, it's not complicated. And there's no fucking registry..... the Windows registry is a piece of shit, and was a bad idea from the beginning.

However, I shouldn't have to know what the inside of a computer's asshole looks like, I'm not an engineer and don't want to spend my day poring over the excruciating minutia of computer tech. I have other things to do. That's why I use Macs.

I see :1orglaugh

So having a BASIC knowledge about Mac OS X is an equivalent of "being a geek"? :winkwink: As far as I remember you were the first one who has started talking about Unix, and that all the Windows users in this thread even have no idea what is it (gentle hint to say that you know it better). Isn't it? :winkwink:

For some reason I knew that :pimp

Can you tell me a path to these settings? I mean the OS X analogues of HKCU and HKLM in Windows - a place what gives you almost a full power over your OS.

Ya, I had a heath Kit. Built it myself. Then a ti 994a, an atari 800, a northstar advantage, numerous IBM PC then the list just becomes to long.

I was fixing the original compaq suitcase laptops for Schwan Wholesale in "82".

My father was an engineer for the Air force with western electric working on there computers in the early 70's and I had this shit crammed in me sine I learned to read. Hell, when I was 5 my day would sit and do flowcharting with me and taught me to program my first language. I got into computers not for the love of them, but because it was something I could do and do well. It was a happy day for me ten years ago when I was finally able to kiss all that shit goodbye and just run my site.

I know all I need to do is log in as root and I am God over these systems.
I know I set up Apache and modded my hosts file in about 5 minutes.
I know I set up php5 and created an internal dev server all by myself.
I know I created mysql databases without any trouble.
I know I networked all my systems together without a single hiccup, something near impossible in Windows.

I know what I need to know. I'm not a computer expert, I'm a design expert.

totally untrue as i've done the same on Win setup locally with no hiccups either

Yeah, after fucking around with "workgroups" and all that shit, and you can't tell me it's "easy" on Windows, because it's not. It takes about 1 second to add another system to my net.

You lier! 1 second... You must be slow. :winkwink:

No, you aren't. Root gives you an ability to be god over the system but it doesn't make you god automatically :) To be a real god over the system, you have to know the way to it's "control centers".

Ok, even a Mac OS X users have to learn their system (at least the basic things), so here is the answer to my question.

~/Library/Preferences - MAC OS X analog of Windows registry HKCU
/Library/Preferences - MAC OS X analog of Windows registry HKLM

Every key is located in it's own file. These files can be easily altered by means the OS commands (e.g. plutil can convert them into XML files and back to binaries). You can also use a special software (e.g. resource knife) to do it without converting.

Also type "defaults" in the Darwin's terminal.

dude what workgroups? i get networking done during initial install of OS my workgroups in check from get go.

I admit there were problems setting up local web server on XP not due to XP but rather poor and at times misleading install instructions from apache/php/mysql especially if you wanted latest releases, it was few years ago. now it takes minutes to download and setup apache/php/mysql on windows don't even have to read install instructions :2 cents:

Don't you just love that you bring home a new system, turn it on and it just works. It sees your other systems, it talks to your printers, etc. I bought a new Imac for my mom last year after dealing with her lack of computer knowledge for the last 15+ years. every-time she would go to use one of her PC resulted in a phone call that would tie me up for hours walking her though something. she brought home the Imac, Over the phone I had her setup an Ichat account. Took control of her system and walked her though it for about an hour... She's called me twice since, (in a year) with questions which I just hopped back on Ichat and took care of in minutes.

Oh the sweet bliss