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alias 08-05-2010 12:29 AM

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sternyduke 08-05-2010 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KingpinMedia (Post 17390193)
Someone please explain to me, how a company can offer something they can't even do themselves? I.E - Baddog's sites are all horribly SEO'd. I mean, GotWebHost.com is using the wordpress plugin - All in One SEO Pack.

how is that being an expert?

exactly :thumbsup

vano 08-05-2010 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rollinthunder (Post 17390124)
All baddog says in the support thread is basically accusing my friend of trying to get his 'secrets' for free.

what 'secrets'?

baddog can't even get his website to rank for the keyphrase that is supposed to be the core of his business - "seo hosting"

vano 08-05-2010 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17390353)
You pay for experience. Baddog has years and years and years of experience. :winkwink:

Experience at what? Hustling noobs with "seo webhosting"?

lagcam 08-05-2010 03:51 AM

If a friend of mine thought I was too much of a pussy to fight my own battles, I would be somewhat pissed at him showing me up like this.

Unless he was the dominant one of course........

munki 08-05-2010 04:06 AM

I'm currently working with Baddog through his hosting company for a very close friend, and trusted client of mine, and it's been quite the pleasurable experience. I can only quote what I know, and we have all been more than satisfactorily taken care of.

ottopottomouse 08-05-2010 04:51 AM

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I can't even tell you how joey they are.
I havn't heard someone be called Joey for 25+ years :1orglaugh

for those that don't understand

Agent 488 08-05-2010 04:51 AM

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DreDogg 08-05-2010 04:59 AM

Time for me to jump in, as I'm the guy who contacted BADDOG for my boss and handled all the email communication, which apparently was hidden through support tickets and BadDog couldn't even decipher half of my messages due to this.

A few points....

1. Rollingthunder,thanks for your help. I know you were just trying to help.

2. Bad Dog, that "your report was impressive" was just bait. I wanted to see if you'd pawn it off like something special and you did. That was when I called you a joke.

You know where your so-called in house expert generated it, and it's not proprietary. Like affiliates sending out Ryan Deiss' recent report as their own, you should know better than to send a report like that and pawn it off as your own. Telling us it was $500 value is a complete crock of shit. All your "expert" did was plug in the domain. Many tools out there do that, Tanya spent maybe 3 minutes on it, depending on how fast she can type.

We were straight forward and told you we would be a big account, that the firm I work with is large and makes money, and your reply (instead of trying to help us and be professional) was "If you are multi-million dollar company don't scrimp on hosting."

Well, we were doing just that, but since you were unable to get your old ass off your commodore 64 and pick up a phone to help out, we were unable to move forward with you.

Oh also...I didn't know your SEO Expert was your wife. No wonder you were so guarded and got all mad when I asked for a five minute convo. "Her number is private and never given out."

Sounds like there are some jealousy issues there old man! In light of being respectful to your personal life I won't even go there.

My advice....

Get some people skills, take 5 minutes to get off GFY,and be pro-business. Answer questions like a human. Pull your head out of your ass.

FWIW, HostGator picked up the phone and answered my very basic questions in under five minutes and I signed up with them. These were the same questions you couldn't answer via email as you were too busy and wanted to charge me!

Better luck next time.

Agent 488 08-05-2010 05:02 AM

multi-million dollar companies host with host gator.

munki 08-05-2010 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17391355)
multi-million dollar companies host with host gator.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:helpme

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-05-2010 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DreDogg (Post 17391352)
Time for me to jump in, as I'm the guy who contacted BADDOG for my boss and handled all the email communication, which apparently was hidden through support tickets and BadDog couldn't even decipher half of my messages due to this.

A few points....

1. Rollingthunder,thanks for your help. I know you were just trying to help.

2. Bad Dog, that "your report was impressive" was just bait. I wanted to see if you'd pawn it off like something special and you did. That was when I called you a joke.

You know where your so-called in house expert generated it, and it's not proprietary. Like affiliates sending out Ryan Deiss' recent report as their own, you should know better than to send a report like that and pawn it off as your own. Telling us it was $500 value is a complete crock of shit. All your "expert" did was plug in the domain. Many tools out there do that, Tanya spent maybe 3 minutes on it, depending on how fast she can type.

We were straight forward and told you we would be a big account, that the firm I work with is large and makes money, and your reply (instead of trying to help us and be professional) was "If you are multi-million dollar company don't scrimp on hosting."

Well, we were doing just that, but since you were unable to get your old ass off your commodore 64 and pick up a phone to help out, we were unable to move forward with you.

Oh also...I didn't know your SEO Expert was your wife. No wonder you were so guarded and got all mad when I asked for a five minute convo. "Her number is private and never given out."

Sounds like there are some jealousy issues there old man! In light of being respectful to your personal life I won't even go there.

My advice....

Get some people skills, take 5 minutes to get off GFY,and be pro-business. Answer questions like a human. Pull your head out of your ass.

FWIW, HostGator picked up the phone and answered my very basic questions in under five minutes and I signed up with them. These were the same questions you couldn't answer via email as you were too busy and wanted to charge me!

Better luck next time.

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Slappin Fish 08-05-2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17391355)
multi-million dollar companies host with host gator.

Multi-million dollar companies can't get enough of that sweet Hatchling Plan.

Agent 488 08-05-2010 05:23 AM

this thread just keeps giving.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-05-2010 05:28 AM

I can't wait for Baddog to post the killer rankings they hold and show us all up

BettingHandle 08-05-2010 05:38 AM

You don't pay for SEO until your site is on the FRONT PAGE of Google!

Nothing upfront!

Agent 488 08-05-2010 05:40 AM

sometimes you pay and end end up at 900. welcome to the gfy seo series.

DreDogg 08-05-2010 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 17391382)
I can't wait for Baddog to post the killer rankings they hold and show us all up

To the old man's credit, he did show us a ranking.....

a THREE KEYWORD RANKING.

Child please!

Agent 488 08-05-2010 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreDogg (Post 17391415)
To the old man's credit, he did show us a ranking.....

a THREE KEYWORD RANKING.

Child please!

what was it?

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-05-2010 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17391403)
sometimes you pay and end end up at 900. welcome to the gfy seo series.

Billed at $500/hour

Platinumpimp 08-05-2010 05:57 AM

Yesterday he was 83 years old, and now he's a full 100 years old? That guy must be aging like hell!

candyflip 08-05-2010 06:20 AM

I've got some snake oil that will cure everything. I'm selling cheap...hit me up via support ticket to discuss your needs.

MrBottomTooth 08-05-2010 06:24 AM

This thread took a nasty turn very quick. Glad to see gfy still has it in her.:thumbsup

Qbert 08-05-2010 06:36 AM

Maybe Jeff Sparxxx is available to mediate this dispute.

Quagmire 08-05-2010 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17391474)
I've got some snake oil that will cure everything. I'm selling cheap...hit me up via support ticket to discuss your needs.

I will trade you some Iowa waterfront property or a nice bridge in New York for some of that magic tonic!

DreDogg 08-05-2010 07:11 AM

Point made. Leave the poor guy alone.

Altwebdesign 08-05-2010 07:17 AM

oh. . . like that is it?!

Jman 08-05-2010 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17390392)
Feel free to introduce yourself in Amsterdam or Barcelona



Any time, any place punk.

Let's get physical, physical,
I wanna get physical, let's get into physical
Let me hear your body talk,
Your body talk, let me hear your body talk

:thumbsup:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Inter-Sex 08-05-2010 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17391474)
I've got some snake oil that will cure everything. I'm selling cheap...hit me up via support ticket to discuss your needs.

Can i call you ?

CaptainHowdy 08-05-2010 08:15 AM

Late sig spot... ShellyCrash is going to cut one of my toes for this.

Pics Traffic 08-05-2010 08:29 AM

Good point on rankings for SEO Hosting. You would expect to see them in their own waters.

candyflip 08-05-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Inter-Sex (Post 17391765)
Can i call you ?

Actually no. I hate the phone. I used a total of 32 minutes last month on my cell phone plan.

I can totally understand someone not wanting to talk on the phone. Email me, IM me, text message me...and I typically respond right off. Ask me to call you and you'll probably be waiting a while to hear back from me. :1orglaugh

They might not rank for SEO Hosting, but SEO HOST, SEO WEBHOST, SEO WEBHOSTING were three terms I just pulled out of my ass and they're in the top 5 for all of those. It's only fair that someone point that out.

baddog 08-05-2010 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreDogg (Post 17391352)
Oh also...I didn't know your SEO Expert was your wife. No wonder you were so guarded and got all mad when I asked for a five minute convo. "Her number is private and never given out." .

She is not my wife. Lives 2,000 miles from me.

willwank 08-05-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KingpinMedia (Post 17390376)
I bet she could chew through a tree trunk in .032 seconds!

She could probably make more money stump grinding than she could hustling SEO services anyway.

You are a real class act.

Tippy 08-05-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17391355)
multi-million dollar companies host with host gator.

ROTFLMFAO :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Pics Traffic 08-05-2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17391932)
You are a real class act.

And you have an avatar with down syndrome person. Class act.

willwank 08-05-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt (Post 17391945)
And you have an avatar with down syndrome person. Class act.

haha, heard of photoshop?

baddog 08-05-2010 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreDogg (Post 17391352)

FWIW, HostGator picked up the phone and answered my very basic questions in under five minutes and I signed up with them. These were the same questions you couldn't answer via email as you were too busy and wanted to charge me!

I am sorry, but I could not let this lie go past.

You told me you had 40 sites you wanted to move from Webair and you wanted to know how they should be cross-linked. By domain, niche, etc.

That would be a nice trick to do in a 5 minute telephone conversation.


I had already given you the basics:

As far as interlinking is concerned, if I go on the presumption that you have one money site and the rest are feeders for it, you should put the money site on a dedicated IP, by itself, and on a different C than the other sites.

You can then do one way links from the feeders to the money site. You can trade links between your feeder sites, making sure they are relative and they should be on different C's. That is a very general description, but it should give you an idea of how you would want to get started.


If I had seen this thread I would have told you I was not interested from the gate.

fris 08-05-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by area51 (Post 17391382)
I can't wait for Baddog to post the killer rankings they hold and show us all up

they dont exist, do a search history on baddog he asked for help not to long ago on ppc.

im sure someone who runs a seo company would know this kind of information before claiming they offer seo services.

fris 08-05-2010 09:14 AM

and 3 keyword ranking what a joke.

true seo pros can show off 1 keyword.

IllTestYourGirls 08-05-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17391343)
I havn't heard someone be called Joey for 25+ years :1orglaugh

for those that don't understand

I thought it was joey from friends :1orglaugh

baddog 08-05-2010 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 17391992)
and 3 keyword ranking what a joke.

true seo pros can show off 1 keyword.

:1orglaugh What one word would you recommend an SEO host go after?

baddog 08-05-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 17391988)
they dont exist, do a search history on baddog he asked for help not to long ago on ppc.

im sure someone who runs a seo company would know this kind of information before claiming they offer seo services.

Do you know the difference between SEO and SEM?

fris 08-05-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17392001)
Do you know the difference between SEO and SEM?

Of course I do.

Its pretty sad that a hosting company that has been up for years only has a pr4, and is horrible optimized.

Shit I have sites with pr4/pr5/pr6's and have been up less than 4 months, but then again I dont charge $500 for a report that a website spits out automatically.

Preying on noobs is what SEO hosting is all about, everyone knows this, their is no solid proof that multiple ips on different class c's has any benefit if you are doing a legit way.

Im sure good girl worked really hard at typing up a report that a website did for her.

I sure hope you stopped giving your customers seo advice, because it was really outdated shit you find on the web.

:1orglaugh

Slappin Fish 08-05-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17391969)
If I had seen this thread I would have told you I was not interested from the gate.

Serial complainers will always find something to bitch and moan about :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 17392034)

Its pretty sad that a hosting company that has been up for years only has a pr4, and is horrible optimized.

Shit I have sites with pr4/pr5/pr6's and have been up less than 4 months

I sure hope you stopped giving your customers seo advice, because it was really outdated shit you find on the web.

:1orglaugh

What is pretty sad (and outdated) is you thinking toolbar PR is still relevant in any way :2 cents:

baddog 08-05-2010 09:40 AM

Not sure why we would care about our PR. We are not selling links. We are ranking for keywords we want.

mpahlca 08-05-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rollinthunder (Post 17390200)
Really?

The report you sent him came off of one of those free sites which you enter your domains and it gives you info.

Forget about the ban, why do you keep being so confrontational? I never said you are a scammer, in fact my friend said you did refund him, you are just more of an asshole, bad business man and time waster. You turned a potential lucrative account into nothing just because you are a dick and would rather belittle the guy than help him set up on YOUR network.

$300 = lucrative??? WTF?

Nasty 08-05-2010 10:12 AM

I am no fan of Baddog, personally he actually annoys the fuck out of me.

I had a seo virtual account with his company for a year and my account was opened in 24 hrs as promised and his support on the few issues I had was excellent and fast. I was notified ahead of time whenever a possible system upgrade was scheduled or when he would be out of town and someone else would be handling support in his absence.

Only reason I no longer have the account at his host is because I stopped using virtual accounts altogether and moved my entire network to dedicated servers and his dedicated server accounts were more than I had in my budget.

I have always recommended his hosting service and will continue to do so.

Pics Traffic 08-05-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17391963)
haha, heard of photoshop?

Yes I have, yet I still don't understand whats so funny about people with disabilities.
Low life.

Stephen 08-05-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rollinthunder (Post 17390124)
he's 100 years old

That part might be true :1orglaugh

He is a survivor who has been around this industry longer than most and the personal attacks in this thread and involving his family is uncalled for.

This business has enough problems today without feeding on itself.


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